i know this is old news but i was watching some clips from the 21 nights in london concerts and i still cant work out why he didnt release this ?....everybody says he is chasing the dollar now but this decision doesnt make sense...he had over 400,000 people went to the concerts....most of would have bought it...his fanbase who didnt see it would have lapped it up....the last night of the 21 was an amazing experience and it was professionally filmed because the first ten mins was shown live on sky in the uk....he doesnt release this but he puts out an airbrushed book that is huge and is a waste of paper basically and there are hundreds lying in shops here for a fiver but no live dvd.....prince you give me a sore head...

Yeah we've discussed it before but it's still a good question.

I think it boils down to the old chestnut of Price not being able to manage a piss-up in a brewery.

If he had at least some management advice the "21" dvd would have been in the shops the Christmas after.

Same reason there's no Montreux 2009 DVD; same reason there's no 3121 Rio DVD; and same reason there's no Musicology Tour DVD = Prince don't like release DVD. Shame. Any one of those would have sold like hotcakes.

toejam said:

. Any one of those would have sold like hotcakes.

so the question is: why are not even big $ make prince do that?

Up to about 10 years ago we regularly had dvds.....so why would be suddenly "not like" releasing dvds????

As we all know the internet is "over" do dvds would seem to be a logical choice from our 20 century friend.

it's a similar reason to why he doesn't like bootlegs, he doesn't want people to be able to listen/watch shows at home isntead of paying to see him live. he looks at the revenue from concerts as his main source of income, so doesn't want to water that down by having live dvds out. it's a similar thinking to people not going to the cinema, and instead downloading pirate copies or waiting till films are out on dvd and buying/renting. the royalties from his catalogue cover his costs of running/keeping paisley etc, the new releases don't bring in huge incomes, which is the same for many artists, so that's why he plays live gigs almost every year, and has done for the past 30 years. not many artists play live half as much as he does. even the likes of u2 and the stones who do huge tours have breaks of literally years between the next tour. prince doesn't do the huge tours so often, but does more regular smaller tours or impromptu shows

I don't see the connection between watching a film at home or going to the cinema ( two activities which are relatively close in terms of enjoyment/entertainment) and watching a dvd and going to a concert which are two totally different activities.

And honestly, I don't think P is intelligent enough to reason like this.......

blackbob said:

i know this is old news but i was watching some clips from the 21 nights in london concerts and i still cant work out why he didnt release this ?....everybody says he is chasing the dollar now but this decision doesnt make sense...he had over 400,000 people went to the concerts....most of would have bought it...his fanbase who didnt see it would have lapped it up....the last night of the 21 was an amazing experience and it was professionally filmed because the first ten mins was shown live on sky in the uk....he doesnt release this but he puts out an airbrushed book that is huge and is a waste of paper basically and there are hundreds lying in shops here for a fiver but no live dvd.....prince you give me a sore head...

Me too

purplecorvette1 said:

blackbob said:

i know this is old news but i was watching some clips from the 21 nights in london concerts and i still cant work out why he didnt release this ?....everybody says he is chasing the dollar now but this decision doesnt make sense...he had over 400,000 people went to the concerts....most of would have bought it...his fanbase who didnt see it would have lapped it up....the last night of the 21 was an amazing experience and it was professionally filmed because the first ten mins was shown live on sky in the uk....he doesnt release this but he puts out an airbrushed book that is huge and is a waste of paper basically and there are hundreds lying in shops here for a fiver but no live dvd.....prince you give me a sore head...

Me too

For some reason, I have a feeling that he's not releasing these until he won't be able to tour/record anymore. That's the only logical reasoning I can think of.

I, too, get upset because he won't release something, but I get tired of wondering something.

Prince is running scared of Blu-Ray. His wrinkles in HD must be giving the vain little fucker nightmares.

eireboy34 said:

I don't see the connection between watching a film at home or going to the cinema ( two activities which are relatively close in terms of enjoyment/entertainment) and watching a dvd and going to a concert which are two totally different activities.

And honestly, I don't think P is intelligent enough to reason like this.......

you don't understand that some people don't go to the cinema because they wait for a movie to come out on dvd, or they download a pirate copy instead?

unique said:

eireboy34 said:

I don't see the connection between watching a film at home or going to the cinema ( two activities which are relatively close in terms of enjoyment/entertainment) and watching a dvd and going to a concert which are two totally different activities.

And honestly, I don't think P is intelligent enough to reason like this.......

you don't understand that some people don't go to the cinema because they wait for a movie to come out on dvd, or they download a pirate copy instead?

Er.....yeah, I understand that...your point being?????

I just looked up 21 nights footage and there was a DVD advertised of the last show with the ten minutes from sky news. Did not say a price but i saw the CD was 80 dollers that would be over 40 pounds. Would love it for christmas if it is out.

eireboy34 said:

unique said:

you don't understand that some people don't go to the cinema because they wait for a movie to come out on dvd, or they download a pirate copy instead?

Er.....yeah, I understand that...your point being?????

so what are all the reasons people don't go to the cinema, and watch films on dvd/blu instead?

unique said:

eireboy34 said:

Er.....yeah, I understand that...your point being?????

so what are all the reasons people don't go to the cinema, and watch films on dvd/blu instead?

eireboy34 said:

unique said:

so what are all the reasons people don't go to the cinema, and watch films on dvd/blu instead?

I agree with you about cinema.....I just don't see the connection with live concerts. Someone who thinks a concert DVD could replace a concert wouldn't be a concert-goer.

Duh...what about someone who thinks a concert film(Sign O The Times) can replace an ENTIRE FU**IN TOUR?? That was Prince's excuse for not touring the USA with what many consider his best album.

They showed the Joy In Repitition performance on TV/sky news.

I can see me in the audience.

[Edited 10/2/10 2:12am]

lol

um.there are 5 o2 dvd's..............

who needs Prince to release em'

lol-even ONA official looks kinda fan made

and some of the musicology shows-man as good as anything out there

if we waited for official-we'd be forever waiting

stillwaiting said:

eireboy34 said:

I agree with you about cinema.....I just don't see the connection with live concerts. Someone who thinks a concert DVD could replace a concert wouldn't be a concert-goer.

Duh...what about someone who thinks a concert film(Sign O The Times) can replace an ENTIRE FU**IN TOUR?? That was Prince's excuse for not touring the USA with what many consider his best album.

Prince's excuse for not touring the US with SOTT was because he was upset about the lack of album sales, and also with IIWYG not being a major hit. He did not want to do a tour if it was not going to be seen as a major event, which he thought might happen due to the less than brilliant album sales.

The release of the SOTT movie was his way of making up for not touring.

[Edited 10/2/10 4:03am]

eireboy34 said:

unique said:

so what are all the reasons people don't go to the cinema, and watch films on dvd/blu instead?

I agree with you about cinema.....I just don't see the connection with live concerts. Someone who thinks a concert DVD could replace a concert wouldn't be a concert-goer.

think about the reasons people don't go to the cinema, they know they can get pretty much any film on dvd a few months afterwards, so no reason to put in the effort. then you have the cost of tickets, which if two people are going, is more than the cost of a dvd, in fact the cost of a single ticket is often more than the price of the dvd about 3 months after release when it's reduced in the sale, then the price of refreshments, it's actually cheaper to buy drugs from the kids outside the mall than it is to buy popcorn, then you have the time and costs involved in travel and parking, costs of arranging babysitters, and then you have issues relating to scheduling, finding the time to go when the movie is on, and when your friend/partner can also go. so why go to all that time and hassle and cost when 3 months later you can watch the movie in the comfort of your own home as many times as you want for about £10-£15 or £3 rental for a night or two?

most of the same applies to concerts, but most things are esculated. the ticket price is far higher, venues are more than often much further away, so longer travel times, higher travel costs, and personal limo hire is surely cheaper than parking at some venues these days. the prince of refreshments seems to be set by someone that's surely sorted the wrong columns in a spreadsheet, the food served usually makes the choice at the cinema seem like a bargain priced gordon ramsey banquet, the toilets make you sympathise for medeavil africans, you still have to arrange a babysitter, which will probably cost more as you will be away to the gig for longer than a cinema, especially if the travel times are longer, and more especially when you include the 3 hour wait to get out the carpark at the end of the gig. then on to scheduling, unlike a movie, with a gig you usually have one date at one time to be there or be square, unless it's the rare case where the band/artist plays more than one night in the same area, so arranging schedules is far more difficult than a movie that plays several times a day, every day for a number of weeks, particularly when you need to arrange schedules for more than one person plus babysitter. and then onto the issue of taste. most movies are designed for mass appeal, and most people can suffer sitting through 2 hours of the worst movie to placate a partner or get in the knickers of a bird they've taken on a date, but if your partner/date wants to see a band you can't stand, do you really want to spend £50+ on each ticket, and remember if taking someone on a date you'll probably have to buy both tickets, plus all the other costs, for a band you can't stand? just imagine if you're partner wanted to see simply red or UB40? most people would rather have root canal surgery than listen to that shit, so finding an excuse to be busy at work or get that anal probe at the hospital and then buy the live dvd to make up for missing the gig is probably a tempting thought

what is a concert goer? someone that goes to concerts? how regularly do they have to go? once a week, once a month, once a year? there are plenty of 60+ year old parents going to gigs, and it's not just daniel o donnel fans. if you go to an arena gig of a popular act and look around you will see people of all ages, parents dragging kids to force them to see the bands they liked when they were their age, and folks who still think they are hip because they like beyonce even though they are 50 years old. the way tickets are priced these days, it's the 30+ market that can afford them better than kids. older people don't act as old as old people did a few decades ago. 40 year old run around with beer bellies wearing t shirts targeted for teenagers, they refuse to accept they are middle aged

so consider the prince audience. purple rain came out over 25 years ago, that's when most people got into prince. if you were 20 years old, pretty young really, then you would be 45 now. that's easily old enough to have 20+ year old grown up kids, with their own kids. if you were 30 when purple rain came out, that's still easily young enough to get into and enjoy pop music, then you would be 55 now. these days 40 year olds are getting into the latest bands and seeing gigs by the likes of lady gaga and lilly allen, if you were 40 when purple rain came out then you now get free bus travel to prince gigs in the uk. most prince fans aren't teenagers now. most of the teenagers at prince gigs are taken by their mothers to show them what a real musician is like to an usher fan (i'm not going to mention shit like justin beiber), so he's not playing to a young crowd anymore. look at the audience and you see bulging waistlines and balding heads

so why pay £100+ per person to go to a gig, maybe a lot more if you have to travel to another city and book a hotel, plus babysitter if you have kids when you could just get the concert dvd isntead to keep the wife happy, and she can watch it over and over? you don't need to go and see prince if you don't care for his music much and go through all that time and hassle to keep the wife happy, and have £200+ out your bank account?

prince knows that concert ticket sales are his bread and butter, so he doesn't want to do anything to harm that. he knows that people are spending a lot of money to buy tickets and travel etc to the gigs, and taking time out to be there. he knows he's no longer considered one of the new hot chart acts and his audience have grown older. he knows it's harder to sell out large venues these days compared to his hey day in the 80s and even early 90s. he's aware that the business of selling records has completely changed, thus giving away cds in papers and at concerts. he knows you don't make much selling cds the usual way and concert sales are the best money maker. the situation with live concert dvds is probably even worse, higher costs as you have filming, editing etc, compared to him having his own studio and being able to make an album almost single handed, and sales must surely be less than cds. so less sales is less income and higher production costs, unless you are one of the current hot acts you probably aren't going to make that much money, so why invest the time and money for a small return when it could potentially affect your most profitable revenue stream?

at some point there will be a time when prince can't or won't be able to play live gigs as regularly or at all, and that's when he can then dip into his catalogue and release older material, including live shows on dvd. perhaps he hopes for a more succesful and lucrative version of npgmc/lotusflower where he can sell/stream live concerts directly to a fanbase where he can make the lions share of profits, and production values don't have to be so high, so potentially he could get away with standard definition single cam filmed gigs, whereas a dvd/bluray release needs multi cam and high quality picture and sound and studios won't be so interested in putting out something that we would normally consider a fantastic quality bootleg video

the thing is, he did have a camera crew booked to film the second last night at the o2, but they were cancelled last minute. he does have the footage from the night from the cameras there, but he might not consider it good enough for release

but the main point is... it's prince. don't expect the norm, it's not going to happen. any fan that's followed him the last few decades will tell you that

polkadotbliss said:

lol

um.there are 5 o2 dvd's..............

who needs Prince to release em'

lol-even ONA official looks kinda fan made

and some of the musicology shows-man as good as anything out there

if we waited for official-we'd be forever waiting

have you seen or heard the o2 dvds? whilst people had balls of steel to film them under security that's been compared to that at nazi concentration camps, the quality of them is pretty shit, both in sound and picture

and the ONA aladdin dvd was fan made. princes staff who were basically prince fans that got to work for him, were given video cameras to shoot the show as if it was a bootleg. then they got someone who had no idea how to encode/author/master video material to work under the direction of stevie wonder to put it all together

some of the musicology ones weren't bad. what is interesting these days are the shows made by synching loads of youtube clips to a complete audio recording. radiohead fans put one together and the band gave them a soundboard audio to synch to. all planned in advance. the beatie boys did a similar thing, giving an audience camcorders to shoot a show, and then they edited all the footage together, like folks who have disposable cameras on tables at weddings and then get the footage developed and choose the best shots

unique said:

eireboy34 said:

I agree with you about cinema.....I just don't see the connection with live concerts. Someone who thinks a concert DVD could replace a concert wouldn't be a concert-goer.

think about the reasons people don't go to the cinema, they know they can get pretty much any film on dvd a few months afterwards, so no reason to put in the effort. then you have the cost of tickets, which if two people are going, is more than the cost of a dvd, in fact the cost of a single ticket is often more than the price of the dvd about 3 months after release when it's reduced in the sale, then the price of refreshments, it's actually cheaper to buy drugs from the kids outside the mall than it is to buy popcorn, then you have the time and costs involved in travel and parking, costs of arranging babysitters, and then you have issues relating to scheduling, finding the time to go when the movie is on, and when your friend/partner can also go. so why go to all that time and hassle and cost when 3 months later you can watch the movie in the comfort of your own home as many times as you want for about £10-£15 or £3 rental for a night or two?

most of the same applies to concerts, but most things are esculated. the ticket price is far higher, venues are more than often much further away, so longer travel times, higher travel costs, and personal limo hire is surely cheaper than parking at some venues these days. the prince of refreshments seems to be set by someone that's surely sorted the wrong columns in a spreadsheet, the food served usually makes the choice at the cinema seem like a bargain priced gordon ramsey banquet, the toilets make you sympathise for medeavil africans, you still have to arrange a babysitter, which will probably cost more as you will be away to the gig for longer than a cinema, especially if the travel times are longer, and more especially when you include the 3 hour wait to get out the carpark at the end of the gig. then on to scheduling, unlike a movie, with a gig you usually have one date at one time to be there or be square, unless it's the rare case where the band/artist plays more than one night in the same area, so arranging schedules is far more difficult than a movie that plays several times a day, every day for a number of weeks, particularly when you need to arrange schedules for more than one person plus babysitter. and then onto the issue of taste. most movies are designed for mass appeal, and most people can suffer sitting through 2 hours of the worst movie to placate a partner or get in the knickers of a bird they've taken on a date, but if your partner/date wants to see a band you can't stand, do you really want to spend £50+ on each ticket, and remember if taking someone on a date you'll probably have to buy both tickets, plus all the other costs, for a band you can't stand? just imagine if you're partner wanted to see simply red or UB40? most people would rather have root canal surgery than listen to that shit, so finding an excuse to be busy at work or get that anal probe at the hospital and then buy the live dvd to make up for missing the gig is probably a tempting thought

what is a concert goer? someone that goes to concerts? how regularly do they have to go? once a week, once a month, once a year? there are plenty of 60+ year old parents going to gigs, and it's not just daniel o donnel fans. if you go to an arena gig of a popular act and look around you will see people of all ages, parents dragging kids to force them to see the bands they liked when they were their age, and folks who still think they are hip because they like beyonce even though they are 50 years old. the way tickets are priced these days, it's the 30+ market that can afford them better than kids. older people don't act as old as old people did a few decades ago. 40 year old run around with beer bellies wearing t shirts targeted for teenagers, they refuse to accept they are middle aged

so consider the prince audience. purple rain came out over 25 years ago, that's when most people got into prince. if you were 20 years old, pretty young really, then you would be 45 now. that's easily old enough to have 20+ year old grown up kids, with their own kids. if you were 30 when purple rain came out, that's still easily young enough to get into and enjoy pop music, then you would be 55 now. these days 40 year olds are getting into the latest bands and seeing gigs by the likes of lady gaga and lilly allen, if you were 40 when purple rain came out then you now get free bus travel to prince gigs in the uk. most prince fans aren't teenagers now. most of the teenagers at prince gigs are taken by their mothers to show them what a real musician is like to an usher fan (i'm not going to mention shit like justin beiber), so he's not playing to a young crowd anymore. look at the audience and you see bulging waistlines and balding heads

so why pay £100+ per person to go to a gig, maybe a lot more if you have to travel to another city and book a hotel, plus babysitter if you have kids when you could just get the concert dvd isntead to keep the wife happy, and she can watch it over and over? you don't need to go and see prince if you don't care for his music much and go through all that time and hassle to keep the wife happy, and have £200+ out your bank account?

prince knows that concert ticket sales are his bread and butter, so he doesn't want to do anything to harm that. he knows that people are spending a lot of money to buy tickets and travel etc to the gigs, and taking time out to be there. he knows he's no longer considered one of the new hot chart acts and his audience have grown older. he knows it's harder to sell out large venues these days compared to his hey day in the 80s and even early 90s. he's aware that the business of selling records has completely changed, thus giving away cds in papers and at concerts. he knows you don't make much selling cds the usual way and concert sales are the best money maker. the situation with live concert dvds is probably even worse, higher costs as you have filming, editing etc, compared to him having his own studio and being able to make an album almost single handed, and sales must surely be less than cds. so less sales is less income and higher production costs, unless you are one of the current hot acts you probably aren't going to make that much money, so why invest the time and money for a small return when it could potentially affect your most profitable revenue stream?

at some point there will be a time when prince can't or won't be able to play live gigs as regularly or at all, and that's when he can then dip into his catalogue and release older material, including live shows on dvd. perhaps he hopes for a more succesful and lucrative version of npgmc/lotusflower where he can sell/stream live concerts directly to a fanbase where he can make the lions share of profits, and production values don't have to be so high, so potentially he could get away with standard definition single cam filmed gigs, whereas a dvd/bluray release needs multi cam and high quality picture and sound and studios won't be so interested in putting out something that we would normally consider a fantastic quality bootleg video

the thing is, he did have a camera crew booked to film the second last night at the o2, but they were cancelled last minute. he does have the footage from the night from the cameras there, but he might not consider it good enough for release

but the main point is... it's prince. don't expect the norm, it's not going to happen. any fan that's followed him the last few decades will tell you that

Could you just summarize the main points for me in one or two sentences??

Marrk said:

Prince is running scared of Blu-Ray. His wrinkles in HD must be giving the vain little fucker nightmares.

Hello Mr Troll

blackbob said:

i know this is old news but i was watching some clips from the 21 nights in london concerts and i still cant work out why he didnt release this ?....everybody says he is chasing the dollar now but this decision doesnt make sense...he had over 400,000 people went to the concerts....most of would have bought it...his fanbase who didnt see it would have lapped it up....the last night of the 21 was an amazing experience and it was professionally filmed because the first ten mins was shown live on sky in the uk....he doesnt release this but he puts out an airbrushed book that is huge and is a waste of paper basically and there are hundreds lying in shops here for a fiver but no live dvd.....prince you give me a sore head...

he's not a a woman/ nor a man...he something y'all will never overstand;

part of being a Prince fan entails believing that we know better than him

in terms of releasing and marketing as well as production methods

eireboy34 said:

unique said:

think about the reasons people don't go to the cinema, they know they can get pretty much any film on dvd a few months afterwards, so no reason to put in the effort. then you have the cost of tickets, which if two people are going, is more than the cost of a dvd, in fact the cost of a single ticket is often more than the price of the dvd about 3 months after release when it's reduced in the sale, then the price of refreshments, it's actually cheaper to buy drugs from the kids outside the mall than it is to buy popcorn, then you have the time and costs involved in travel and parking, costs of arranging babysitters, and then you have issues relating to scheduling, finding the time to go when the movie is on, and when your friend/partner can also go. so why go to all that time and hassle and cost when 3 months later you can watch the movie in the comfort of your own home as many times as you want for about £10-£15 or £3 rental for a night or two?

most of the same applies to concerts, but most things are esculated. the ticket price is far higher, venues are more than often much further away, so longer travel times, higher travel costs, and personal limo hire is surely cheaper than parking at some venues these days. the prince of refreshments seems to be set by someone that's surely sorted the wrong columns in a spreadsheet, the food served usually makes the choice at the cinema seem like a bargain priced gordon ramsey banquet, the toilets make you sympathise for medeavil africans, you still have to arrange a babysitter, which will probably cost more as you will be away to the gig for longer than a cinema, especially if the travel times are longer, and more especially when you include the 3 hour wait to get out the carpark at the end of the gig. then on to scheduling, unlike a movie, with a gig you usually have one date at one time to be there or be square, unless it's the rare case where the band/artist plays more than one night in the same area, so arranging schedules is far more difficult than a movie that plays several times a day, every day for a number of weeks, particularly when you need to arrange schedules for more than one person plus babysitter. and then onto the issue of taste. most movies are designed for mass appeal, and most people can suffer sitting through 2 hours of the worst movie to placate a partner or get in the knickers of a bird they've taken on a date, but if your partner/date wants to see a band you can't stand, do you really want to spend £50+ on each ticket, and remember if taking someone on a date you'll probably have to buy both tickets, plus all the other costs, for a band you can't stand? just imagine if you're partner wanted to see simply red or UB40? most people would rather have root canal surgery than listen to that shit, so finding an excuse to be busy at work or get that anal probe at the hospital and then buy the live dvd to make up for missing the gig is probably a tempting thought

what is a concert goer? someone that goes to concerts? how regularly do they have to go? once a week, once a month, once a year? there are plenty of 60+ year old parents going to gigs, and it's not just daniel o donnel fans. if you go to an arena gig of a popular act and look around you will see people of all ages, parents dragging kids to force them to see the bands they liked when they were their age, and folks who still think they are hip because they like beyonce even though they are 50 years old. the way tickets are priced these days, it's the 30+ market that can afford them better than kids. older people don't act as old as old people did a few decades ago. 40 year old run around with beer bellies wearing t shirts targeted for teenagers, they refuse to accept they are middle aged

so consider the prince audience. purple rain came out over 25 years ago, that's when most people got into prince. if you were 20 years old, pretty young really, then you would be 45 now. that's easily old enough to have 20+ year old grown up kids, with their own kids. if you were 30 when purple rain came out, that's still easily young enough to get into and enjoy pop music, then you would be 55 now. these days 40 year olds are getting into the latest bands and seeing gigs by the likes of lady gaga and lilly allen, if you were 40 when purple rain came out then you now get free bus travel to prince gigs in the uk. most prince fans aren't teenagers now. most of the teenagers at prince gigs are taken by their mothers to show them what a real musician is like to an usher fan (i'm not going to mention shit like justin beiber), so he's not playing to a young crowd anymore. look at the audience and you see bulging waistlines and balding heads

so why pay £100+ per person to go to a gig, maybe a lot more if you have to travel to another city and book a hotel, plus babysitter if you have kids when you could just get the concert dvd isntead to keep the wife happy, and she can watch it over and over? you don't need to go and see prince if you don't care for his music much and go through all that time and hassle to keep the wife happy, and have £200+ out your bank account?

prince knows that concert ticket sales are his bread and butter, so he doesn't want to do anything to harm that. he knows that people are spending a lot of money to buy tickets and travel etc to the gigs, and taking time out to be there. he knows he's no longer considered one of the new hot chart acts and his audience have grown older. he knows it's harder to sell out large venues these days compared to his hey day in the 80s and even early 90s. he's aware that the business of selling records has completely changed, thus giving away cds in papers and at concerts. he knows you don't make much selling cds the usual way and concert sales are the best money maker. the situation with live concert dvds is probably even worse, higher costs as you have filming, editing etc, compared to him having his own studio and being able to make an album almost single handed, and sales must surely be less than cds. so less sales is less income and higher production costs, unless you are one of the current hot acts you probably aren't going to make that much money, so why invest the time and money for a small return when it could potentially affect your most profitable revenue stream?

at some point there will be a time when prince can't or won't be able to play live gigs as regularly or at all, and that's when he can then dip into his catalogue and release older material, including live shows on dvd. perhaps he hopes for a more succesful and lucrative version of npgmc/lotusflower where he can sell/stream live concerts directly to a fanbase where he can make the lions share of profits, and production values don't have to be so high, so potentially he could get away with standard definition single cam filmed gigs, whereas a dvd/bluray release needs multi cam and high quality picture and sound and studios won't be so interested in putting out something that we would normally consider a fantastic quality bootleg video

the thing is, he did have a camera crew booked to film the second last night at the o2, but they were cancelled last minute. he does have the footage from the night from the cameras there, but he might not consider it good enough for release

but the main point is... it's prince. don't expect the norm, it's not going to happen. any fan that's followed him the last few decades will tell you that

Could you just summarize the main points for me in one or two sentences??

no. at school my fucking teachers drummed into my head to elaborate and show workings etc etc etc, and now the fuckers in the real world want me to keep things short. you can't keep anyone happy these days. and my science teacher said it was pointless doing science if you can't write neatly. well fuck him cuz that wheelchair speak and spell guy can't fucking write, nevemind walk, and he's got fucking telly shows about science. i should have never listened to zammo and isntead of just saying no i should have got fucked out my head on smack instead. it didn't do russell brand and lindsay lohan no harm

unique said:

eireboy34 said:

Could you just summarize the main points for me in one or two sentences??

no. at school my fucking teachers drummed into my head to elaborate and show workings etc etc etc, and now the fuckers in the real world want me to keep things short. you can't keep anyone happy these days. and my science teacher said it was pointless doing science if you can't write neatly. well fuck him cuz that wheelchair speak and spell guy can't fucking write, nevemind walk, and he's got fucking telly shows about science. i should have never listened to zammo and isntead of just saying no i should have got fucked out my head on smack instead. it didn't do russell brand and lindsay lohan no harm

powersoul99 said:

Marrk said:

Prince is running scared of Blu-Ray. His wrinkles in HD must be giving the vain little fucker nightmares.

Hello Mr Troll

Hello whoever the fuck you are.

i was making a serious point. He is vain, and constantly shows he is. Get your 21Nights book out and see if you can spot Prince below the airbrush. 1080dpi close-ups must terrify him.

The whole production, pressing, and distribution of something of this nature would be cost prohibitive.

When Prince was 20 something and a hot artist a record company would front the cash up front to make a Purple Rain movie or a SOTT concert film. Now they would not do it for many of the reasons that unique stated above.

Back in the 1990's these record companies found that the costs to produce videos did not make the return on the song that was released. Thus MTV,BET,Vh-1,ect do not show music video like they did because the costs skyrocketed and makes it too expensive to be on TV. So music TV has been replaced by reality TV.

Marrk said:

powersoul99 said:

Hello Mr Troll

Hello whoever the fuck you are.

i was making a serious point. He is vain, and constantly shows he is. Get your 21Nights book out and see if you can spot Prince below the airbrush. 1080dpi close-ups must terrify him.

The super models to the people on the cover of people or like magazines are all air brushed. It's the industry standard.