I was just curious since Prince is constantly writing music. I'm not sure how many songs

are in The Beatles back catalog, since I never could get into The Beatles' music. I know

everybody says they were innovative and really great songwriters, but I tried listening

to a couple of their songs and IMO, they sound like a bunch of dudes that wrote about

the pathos of world affairs during a really bad Acid trip, nothing special to me! I'm not

spewing venom at the expense of diminishing their talent, or laureled genius, but any

way back on topic Prince probably has thousands of unreleased material in the vault.

He maybe right up there next to Frank Zappa or Amadeus Mozart as far as a high level proliferation.

Yes, Prince has more songs than the Beatles. Way more. Beatles have about 200-300 songs in their catalog. Prince has more than 600 unreleased songs in his catalog. So yeah. But remember The Beatles were only together less than a decade. Prince has been writing for 30+ years.

I thought so! Like I said I never really paid attention to The Beatles so I don't

know much about their musical history, like how many 1# on the Top 100, their

discography, and things like that. Thanks

DarlingNikki1025 said:

I thought so! Like I said I never really paid attention to The Beatles so I don't

know much about their musical history, like how many 1# on the Top 100, their

discography, and things like that. Thanks

You're welcome.

"they sound like a bunch of dudes that wrote about

the pathos of world affairs during a really bad Acid trip"

I think you should try the Beatles again. For sure a lot of their songs are psychadelic but they are not all like that. They have also written some of the most beautiful and memorable songs in the world.

I love both Prince and The Beatles!

I'll Try! Which songs should I listened to first to get me started?

I listened to Lucy Diamonds In The Sky, I think I got the title right

and I watched the music video which looks like a hybrid of a Psychedelic

segment of School House Rock and Monty Python and The Holy Grail!

DarlingNikki1025 said:

I was just curious since Prince is constantly writing music. I'm not sure how many songs

are in The Beatles back catalog, since I never could get into The Beatles' music. I know

everybody says they were innovative and really great songwriters, but I tried listening

to a couple of their songs and IMO, they sound like a bunch of dudes that wrote about

the pathos of world affairs during a really bad Acid trip, nothing special to me! I'm not

spewing venom at the expense of diminishing their talent, or laureled genius, but any

way back on topic Prince probably has thousands of unreleased material in the vault.

He maybe right up there next to Frank Zappa or Amadeus Mozart as far as a high level proliferation.

I lubbs the hell outta Prince. Wouldn't be here if I didn't. The Beatles were an incredibly talented and influential ensemble. Lennon and McCartney were extremely gifted musicians and lyricists, as individuals and as collaborators.

Explore their music. Examine their influences. Marvel at their talent. You can no more judge them solely on the basis of Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds than you can judge Prince solely on the basis of Jughead.

It matters not how many unreleased and unheard songs anyone may or may not have in a vault. We can only judge talent on the basis of what is exhibited, not on the basis of unheard and unseen masterpieces alleged to exist. It enhances any artist's legacy if every unheard or unseen creation is presumed to be reflective of their best. 'Tain't always so.

I give Prince the benefit of the doubt and assume that there are many precious gems in the vault that I'd love to hear. At the same time, I also bet there are some stank-ass turds he better keep down there.

I think that only Mr.Dylan and Mr-Young have written more songs than Prince. These three men are famous for having a huge, closed vault full of unreleased material and +30 official albums released...

JoeTyler said:

I think that only Mr.Dylan and Mr-Young have written more songs than Prince. These three men are famous for having a huge, closed vault full of unreleased material and +30 official albums released...

Bob Dylan I'm guessing, but who is Mr. Young?

CallMeCarrie said:

JoeTyler said:

I think that only Mr.Dylan and Mr-Young have written more songs than Prince. These three men are famous for having a huge, closed vault full of unreleased material and +30 official albums released...

Bob Dylan I'm guessing, but who is Mr. Young?

Neil Young

I think the better question for this thread would be if P has written more songs than either Lennon and/or McCartney?

daPrettyman said:

I think the better question for this thread would be if P has written more songs than either Lennon and/or McCartney?

Why is that the better question?

No, I meant The Beatles! If I wanted to know how many unreleased songs by Mr. Mccartney

or Mr. Lennon or Mr. Harrison for that matter compared to Prince I would have asked that

particular question. I understand Paul Mccartney and John Lennon's major collaborative influence

in the group, so one would probably might ask that question. I didn't. Not trying to sound Bitchey.

WTF is this thread supposed to be getting at really?

CJBabyDaddy said:

I lubbs the hell outta Prince. Wouldn't be here if I didn't. The Beatles were an incredibly talented and influential ensemble. Lennon and McCartney were extremely gifted musicians and lyricists, as individuals and as collaborators.

Explore their music. Examine their influences. Marvel at their talent. You can no more judge them solely on the basis of Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds than you can judge Prince solely on the basis of Jughead.

It matters not how many unreleased and unheard songs anyone may or may not have in a vault. We can only judge talent on the basis of what is exhibited, not on the basis of unheard and unseen masterpieces alleged to exist. It enhances any artist's legacy if every unheard or unseen creation is presumed to be reflective of their best. 'Tain't always so.

I give Prince the benefit of the doubt and assume that there are many precious gems in the vault that I'd love to hear. At the same time, I also bet there are some stank-ass turds he better keep down there.

Did you just compare Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds to Jughead?

I've written over ten thousand lyrics/poems... but that don't matter here.

Spinlight said:

daPrettyman said:

I think the better question for this thread would be if P has written more songs than either Lennon and/or McCartney?

Why is that the better question?

I think that would be a better question because since John is no longer with us, I would pose the question to ask if Paul has written more songs than Prince (at this point).

That would be something that I would like to know. A burning question I would like to know also is how many songs Paul wrote in his 40s and 50s compared to how many he wrote in his teens, 20s and 30s. I would lovve to know if creativity tends to slow down with age.

daPrettyman said:

Spinlight said:

Why is that the better question?

I think that would be a better question because since John is no longer with us, I would pose the question to ask if Paul has written more songs than Prince (at this point).

That would be something that I would like to know. A burning question I would like to know also is how many songs Paul wrote in his 40s and 50s compared to how many he wrote in his teens, 20s and 30s. I would lovve to know if creativity tends to slow down with age.

You have to remember that the first 3 Beatles albums were full of remakes like Twist And Shout. By the time Revolver was released, they had at least started to avoid the cheesy teen pop they started out with. But Prince likely recorded more ORIGINAL WRITTEN songs from 1979-1989 then the Beatles did in their entire Career, INCLUDING solo releases from 1963-2000. No facts to back it up, and won't waste the time trying to research it.

Nobody knows the answer with 100% truth. Anybody who doesn't think Prince is at the top of the list of most recorded songs has not really followed his career. The sheer volume of leaked material from 1977-1988 alone is more numerous than the tons of released material. Bob Dylan has made a lot of music. Many of his songs are in the 1:40-3:30 range. Prince has tons of songs in the 8 plus minute range, and tons of short songs as well. I respect Neil Young, but never could get into him.

Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds...and #$@head in the same sentence? I won't even type out the name of that Tony M ruined crap from DAP. Not many Beatles songs are really better than the average Prince song, but the Mop Toppers have at least 150 songs better than $#ghead!!

How many songs did McCartney write in his 40's and 50's? From all accounts, a lot of material, but not too much worthy of release. I think Prince has at least 50 tracks in the can in each year since 1978, which would be at least 1600 songs. It would be easy to bring that total up to 2500 or so if you include the ones he has only demoed.

If my favorite band U2 continue to record at their pace, they will catch Prince in the year 2850, provided they live that long.

Again, I've only provided opinion, no real facts, but it is hard to believe that anybody has written as many RELEASE WORTHY songs as Prince. I'm sure some have written nearly as many. I easily could have written 500-1000 by now, but stopped around 100 when I was sure they were not good enough to get me out of my dead end job lifestyle.

By the way, the snippet of "Rich Friends," is promising to me if the 20Ten Deluxe Edition ever sees the light of day, or if it ends up in the Heap with Roadhouse Garden, Parade Live, High, 7 CD Sample Set(dumb idea anyway), Xenophobia, insert broken promised release here.... etc

Prince has more, more, more and more songs -> http://prince.org/msg/7/116322

yes, plus more released songs than Michael Jackson and Madonna put together

crokey20 said:

CJBabyDaddy said:

I lubbs the hell outta Prince. Wouldn't be here if I didn't. The Beatles were an incredibly talented and influential ensemble. Lennon and McCartney were extremely gifted musicians and lyricists, as individuals and as collaborators.

Explore their music. Examine their influences. Marvel at their talent. You can no more judge them solely on the basis of Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds than you can judge Prince solely on the basis of Jughead.

It matters not how many unreleased and unheard songs anyone may or may not have in a vault. We can only judge talent on the basis of what is exhibited, not on the basis of unheard and unseen masterpieces alleged to exist. It enhances any artist's legacy if every unheard or unseen creation is presumed to be reflective of their best. 'Tain't always so.

I give Prince the benefit of the doubt and assume that there are many precious gems in the vault that I'd love to hear. At the same time, I also bet there are some stank-ass turds he better keep down there.

Did you just compare Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds to Jughead?

That was my first reaction. What the hell? BabyDaddyCrazy.

buttcheeks said:

yes, plus more released songs than Michael Jackson and Madonna put together

I don't know about that one.

MJ released music from the 60s to the 00s. May not have been all his, but he was releasing music.

Bucket-head my also have more songs than Prince, He has released 28 studio albums, 4 special releases, 1 EP as of 2010, and performed on over 50 more by other artists. Wonder how man unreleased tracks he has!!

Does it matter? Who cares who has more songs.

daPrettyman said:

buttcheeks said:

yes, plus more released songs than Michael Jackson and Madonna put together

I don't know about that one.

MJ released music from the 60s to the 00s. May not have been all his, but he was releasing music.

chelsearodgerslovesya said:

daPrettyman said:

I don't know about that one.

MJ released music from the 60s to the 00s. May not have been all his, but he was releasing music.

i love MJ and i'm his fan few years ago. MJ hasn't more songs than 400.

Agreed! I have followed MJ's career forever also and doubt he has that more than maybe 200-300. He didn't spend as much time creating music as Prince does. MJ spent alot of off time.

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

chelsearodgerslovesya said:

i love MJ and i'm his fan few years ago. MJ hasn't more songs than 400.

Agreed! I have followed MJ's career forever also and doubt he has that more than maybe 200-300. He didn't spend as much time creating music as Prince does. MJ spent alot of off time.

In his later years, yes. Not sure about that, though. I thought they recorded about 200 songs at Motown alone.

daPrettyman said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Agreed! I have followed MJ's career forever also and doubt he has that more than maybe 200-300. He didn't spend as much time creating music as Prince does. MJ spent alot of off time.

In his later years, yes. Not sure about that, though. I thought they recorded about 200 songs at Motown alone.

As Sony in 2009s said " In Motown stayed already nothing". All his song has Sony now. Sony said too, that they have enough songs to make seven albums. 7 x (for example) 12 = 84 . Well, MJ/ Sony hasn't more than 100 unrealsed songs. BTW, new MJ's album will appear at 14th November.

ok, let's back to subject...

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chelsearodgerslovesya said:

daPrettyman said:

In his later years, yes. Not sure about that, though. I thought they recorded about 200 songs at Motown alone.

As Sony in 2009s said " In Motown stayed already nothing". All his song has Sony now. Sony said too, that they have enough songs to make seven albums. 7 x (for example) 12 = 84 . Well, MJ/ Sony hasn't more than 100 unrealsed songs. BTW, new MJ's album will appear at 14th November.

ok, let's back to subject...

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That's just what Sony has possession of. They don't necessarilly know his whole output. Same for Prince and everyone else.

I honestly dont know of anyone who has more songs than Prince. Releasd, Unreleased, ones he has written for other artists. Theres just a HUGE catalog of music.

JoeTyler said:

I think that only Mr.Dylan and Mr-Young have written more songs than Prince. These three men are famous for having a huge, closed vault full of unreleased material and +30 official albums released...

I don't know anything about Dylan and Young, but here are 3 artists who have at least as much recorded (if not more) material than Prince does.

Haruomi Hosono, considered the godfather of Japanese pop music in Japan, though quite unknown in the rest of the world. He was a founding member of the revolutionary Yellow Magic Orchestra synthpop band in the late 70's, and though he hasn't released more than 25 or 30 solo and band albums, he's also composed and recorded several hundreds of songs for numerous japanese artists in the 70's and 80's. He's explored many musical genres: folk, rock, exotica, world music, synthpop, electronica, ambient... A discography of his solo projects can be found here: http://www.discog.info/hosono.html

Ryuichi Sakamoto, internationally known for his music scores and also a founding member of Yellow Magic Orchestra. He's released more than 60 albums on his own since the late 70's, and he also composed for and produced a respectable number of other acts in the 80's and 90's. His musical experiments range from orchestral compositions to solo piano works, with explorations in mainstream pop (including collaborations with... Jill Jones and Ingrid Chavez!!!), hip-hop, jazz, funk, electronica, abstract music, ambient, bossa nova and traditionnal music... A discography of both his solo projects and YMO can be found here: http://www.discog.info/YMO.html

Last but not least is the most prolific of all. You might not know him but you know at least Herbie Hancock's massive 1982 hit: "Rock It". Well, Hancock wasn't beheing this song, another man was and this man is Bill Laswell.

Bill Laswell has released more than 200 albums since the early 80's, under various pseudonyms, as the leader of an infinite number of short-lived supergroups, or as a sideman. To this list you can add more than 200 other albums featuring him as a composer, produucer and/or musician on one or several tracks!!! Bill Laswell has just worked with EVERYBODY: Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, Pharoah Sanders, John Zorn, The Last Poets, Mick Jagger, Public Image Ltd., Iggy Pop, Kool Keith, Bernie Worrell, Motorhead, Zakir Hussein, Laurie Anderson, Afrika Bambaataa, Sting, Sly & Robbie, Brian Eno, David Byrne, Peter Gabriel, The Ramones, Nona Hendryx, Ryuichi Sakamoto, Haruomi Hosono, Jah Wobble, Robert Mills, Niels Peter Molvaer, Lucky Peterson, Talvin Singh... you name it!

Also, there's hardly any musical genre that i know of that he hasn't explored in one way of another: compared to Laswell, Prince's so-called musical eclectism is a joke! Laswell has done pop, rock, metal, jazz & free-jazz, electronica, hip-hop & r&b, electrofunk, reggae & dub, electronica, ambient, drum & bass, world music from just every continent, experimental contemporary stuff and even classical music! Just for fun, go check his discography here: http://www.silent-watcher...index.html

Unfortunately, these 3 geniuse aren't well known by the general public, while every one on the street know who Lady Gaga is

Also, though i don't know anything about his work, i think that Frank Zappa also produced a lot of stuff.