There's lots of live material and programs and rehearsals on Youtube right now too. Seems like anything that gets taken down is up again fast. -Silk | |
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Both post were spot on! Bravo!!!
Prince does alienate, but I agree with NouveauDance...Fuck'em if they can look past the facade. Soaked in Banana Cologne, No Wonder U're All Alone | |
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So true that cover of him is beautiful. Its nothing compared 2 what u see 2day. | |
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Thing is, Prince is a visonary artist. He will do what he deems fit to fulfil his vision. This slots into things like the Lovesexy cover which reflected the album itself. A symbol of rebirth was it's main point, as was the albums theme. It was no gimmic ala GaGa, it was artistic intent. This is what Prince is and will continue to do and this kind of astist is usually way ahead of their time and will be appreciated and more understood as time goes by. MORE artists like this are needed. This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream | |
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exactly LMAO What a mess... but thats my boy! Dance... Let me see you dance | |
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I completely agree with what most of you all are saying. BUT. The one thing that cannot be omitted is that some of us (me) dug prince regardless of his image because his music trumped everything else. Case in point that very youtube video. Even the people who posted on it who profess to hate Prince and diss his appearance and his "gayness" all/most concede him to be great upon watching the performance.
When Princes music started to feel more like by-the-numbers pop schlock, that is when his image hurt him. There was no way he could pull off a lollipop sucking pimp cane rocking sickly meth addict persona while performing and releasing the goofball kiddie schock he was peddling in the 90's
Yeah, the image hurt him, but by pandering and dumbing down his own music hurt him more. Ultimately we get over the image pretty quickly if you can blow us away. Like he blew us away. Susan Boyle is another case in point, people didn't give her a chance and mocked her unlit they heard her sing.
I guarantee that if Prince had retired in 1989, he would still rank as high as he does now or maybe even higher. Its not the image it's the work.
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One problem, that guitar solo isn't that great. Not even close to his best. | |
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Man some of you guys are hard to please! lol THAT IS AN AWESOME SOLO! Love everything about it. | |
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It's pretty sloppy, even for Prince. It's got some nice emotion and feeling to it, but it's really not anywhere near the realm of his best guitar work. Also, I think the falling backwards thing is silly and near insulting. That performance was about honoring George Harrison, not paying attention to Prince. He could have done the same thing during his performance time. | |
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I think the point was to honor him and interpret him, not mimic him like the rest of those stiff boards did on that stage. The guitar solo was great and Prince has never been a technical player, always basing his solos on emotion rather than math. | |
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People are talking about how his image hindered him, but I think all the same it helped him. I say that because he looked different is what made him stand out. The same goes for MJ. Had they look like your typical boring so called normal people they probably would have never been the larger than life stars they became. I know I would have still loved Prince's music, but wouldn't have gave him as much attention. As now he's kind of toned down his look which to me kind of takes from the whole package. I just thank God he hasn't changed 100 %. | |
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I totally agree with you. Like I said, sloppy, even for Prince. But how is putting the attention on you falling off the stage honoring him? Anyway, I'm not all up in here bashing Prince or the performance (or anybody who likes it, for that matter). Love Prince, enjoyed this solo. I just don't think it's as spectacular as a lot of people make it out to be. | |
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Excellent follow-up points. Prince should never cave in to other people's narrow minds. Isn't Rock and Roll about upsetting people every once in a while? Look at the hatred spewed at Little Richard, Elvis, John Lennon, etc. Don't let the boring conservative navel-gazing tourists take over. And Prince doesn't have to prove anything to the Sporty Spice, frat boy or Guitar Hero crowd. Anyone with a shred of musical intelligence knows he is a unique multi-talented musician and a one-in-generation composer. | |
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Someone posted Mj's 1995 MTV performance. And whatever preconceived notions get stuck in my head about the man, watching him do his stuff and blow you away, tears all preconceptions away and you are just left in awe. I think that you are right that it helps in some ways and hurts in others, but in the end, for an artist its not about image but about substance. | |
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YOU ARE AWESOME! I couldn't agree more with this post.
I wish he'd get the hell out of his own head, you know? It's all such crap now, he's gone from someone folks admired and wanted to be like to a dude people just humor because they know how great he ONCE was. I wonder if he even GETS that.
And insular tosspot? I don't even know what that is and I love it. You're so not American I can tell.. and I like it! Prince esta muerto...
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Going to school has NOTHING to do with being socialized or not!! And BTW, MJ DID go to public school, it's how he got started!! Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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his image is so "tarnished" that he was just ranked the #7 artist of all time. | |
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Your post shows exactly the problem with the world, Americans especially....we judge a book by it's cover. And we foolishly lose out on something great!! Prince is by far the best musician the world has ever seen and probably ever will see (if the last 20yrs is any indication of artists). He has done so much for music and mainstream doesn't even realize that. But that's their own lost. Prince WILL be a legend and his music will live on. People judging him based on his look is due to their own insecurites and prejudices!! Prince shouldn't have to worry about that or suffer from it. And thankfully, he didn't listen to the critics and he continued to do his thing cause I love every minute of it!
Alot of people starting criticizing him during the Parade days with his belly showing. Lots of women found it HOT and sexy..me included!! Then he pushed it further with the lovesexy days...at 1st I wasn't sure how to take it, now I'm loving it bigtime(he was HOT still!)! I see Prince was being him and expressing himself in the wackiest, most creative ways possible. And that I admire and respect and makes me love him even more. MJ was cursed by getting built up and then torn down, people weren't genuine, so 1st sign of trouble, they bailed!! The real fans stuck around and continued to support him and that's what he needed. Prince is the same, the only fans he needs are the ones that will understand and appreciate him for the amazing music he releases and the gorgeous man he is! All others, can stay away, he doesn't need that fake crap around. And he hasn't be interested in mainstream media's faking adoration! Kudos to him! Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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As a 51-year-old white establishment male, let me tell you that you have to be REALLY comfortable in your own skin to tell people that you are a Prince fan. | |
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Androgeny dosent alienate American music fans, funk does. Look at David Bowie, Iggy Pop, Steven Tyler etc.. Prince puts maximum demand on alot of American ears and good luck w/ that. One of the funniest quotes on there is "the little f-cker can play guitar"They dont wanna know about it cuz frankly they aint real funky. So whats he supposed to do stifle himself cuz they dont get it? Hes doing that now and its enough to drive you to distraction. I think he does well not to buy an island somewhere and just buy out.
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True, but it's really true for any age. | |
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A classic Prince moment Prince 4Ever. | |
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They sure are comfortable buying up all the good seats for every show | |
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So true! And honestly @ 25 it isn't easy either. The looks one gets when saying "I'm the biggest Prince fan and think he is the sexiest man alive!!" Alot of the young kids are like "huh?" My 9yr old niece got the WEIRDEST stares when she said in her Sunday School Class that her favorite musicians were Prince and Michael Jackson. Wonder where she got that from? Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE that pic of him!! So classic and sleek, and he looks freaking SEXY!! That outfit is kickass and his body is smoking HOT! Hmm, I LOVE it!! Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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not wanting to mike flowers pops it, but all of prince is on youtube?
flowers pops = judge
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just to add to this....yes prince has dressed like your auntie betty in the past but why does prince get so put down with it all his career when you think of other major rock stars like david bowie ...who has cross dressed in parts of his career AND is a bi sexual man and freddie mercury of queen who was as camp as they come and 100 per cent a gay man....why is it when you mention bowie and queen ...you dont get the 'gay' putdown comments from boneheads but when you say prince...you do get the 'gay' putdown comments ?....i personally think that white guys ...and to a lesser extent ..white women...cant handle an effeminate little black man but can handle gay or bi sexual white guys ???....what other explanation is there for this if its not a racial thing ?.... .
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Probably quite true. | |
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By puberty MJ had tutors and was traveling the country, at this time prince was starting bands, hanging out and trying to get laid like most teens. | |
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He is a timeless musician but maybe he overemphasized that part of his persona to disarm a black audience ( whom he grew up with) that were already put off by his appearance. I refuse to believe he wasn't a target of taunts and called a sissy growing up, he stated as much to Tavis. We as Black folks have to admit that "the dozens" and homophobia is a part of our experience and black kids can be the most vicious. Maybe he saw freedom in the androgyny of white stars, a way to circumvent what he felt to be narrow ideas about "maleness" in his community. I always thought it was funny that Charlie Murphy complained that androgyny got you laid in the 80's, in the black community MJ, Prince and El Debarge made being pretty acceptable. But every trend has it's backlash and Prince's musical abilities and standing as one of our great talents will be casualties of this choice. He also baught into his own hype to some degree so theres an almost predictable approach to all of his projects since PR. We have no idea what an ego rush even pullin that shit off was for him. The obstacles were huge, and when he pulled it off the chances of anyone advising him on shit like Lovesexy were zip. In a lot of ways he beat the odds and i'm sure he believes he can repeat the feat with every project. | |
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