unique said:

squirrelgrease said:

It wasn't an album until fans bitched about popping for a $100 membership that resulted in broken promises. Prince probably shit himself laughing when he came up with that C-NOTE "joke".

in the year people paid $100 it was sent seperately to people, just one track per person. it wasn't until the following year with the $25 membership that it was sold in the downloads section. i think there was options for "cybersingles" or something that were single tracks for say 99c and another option for "cyberalbums" or something and that had multiple tracks in groups, like xpectations and that's where CNOTE was listed. i've always thought of it as an EP and thought that's what everyone else did

Does an album has to be made out of unreleased material? Aren't The Slaughterhouse and The Chocolate Invasion albums? And as for the random aspect, isn't Crystal Ball an album? EP doesn't mean "random collection of previously released tracks", EP means a record that's longer than a single and shorter than an album, and that's not a collection of remix such as a CD-era maxi-single. There are official standards at least in UK, relating to number of tracks and/or length (check wikipedia), but anyway there's absolutely no reasonable reason to consider C-Note an EP just because it's a compilation of tracks that were released to a very limited numberof members of a website b4. And yes, it WAS sold as an album the same way TCI & Slaughterhouse were.

Now... is The War an album?

[Edited 9/13/10 11:45am]

databank said:

unique said:

in the year people paid $100 it was sent seperately to people, just one track per person. it wasn't until the following year with the $25 membership that it was sold in the downloads section. i think there was options for "cybersingles" or something that were single tracks for say 99c and another option for "cyberalbums" or something and that had multiple tracks in groups, like xpectations and that's where CNOTE was listed. i've always thought of it as an EP and thought that's what everyone else did

Does an album has to be made out of unreleased material? Aren't The Slaughterhouse and The Chocolate Invasion albums? And as for the random aspect, isn't Crystal Ball an album? EP doesn't mean "random collection of previously released tracks", EP means a record that's longer than a single and shorter than an album, and that's not a collection of remix such as a CD-era maxi-single. There are official standards at least in UK, relating to number of tracks and/or length (check wikipedia), but anyway there's absolutely no reasonable reason to consider C-Note an EP just because it's a compilation of tracks that were released to a very limited numberof members of a website b4. And yes, it WAS sold as an album the same way TCI & Slaughterhouse were.

Now... is The War an album?

[Edited 9/13/10 11:45am]

EP means extended play. of course an album doesn't have to be of unreleased material. haven't you heard of a greatest hits album or a compilation album?

databank said:

EP means a record that's longer than a single and shorter than an album, and that's not a collection of remix such as a CD-era maxi-single. There are official standards at least in UK, relating to number of tracks and/or length (check wikipedia),

I did. And for the record(pun intended), I consider both N.E.W.S. and C-NOTE albums. But really... this is sort of like the "Is Newpower Soul a Prince album?" thread - it ain't clear-cut enough to make everyone agree.

From Wiki En:

Defining EP

The first EPs were seven-inch vinyl records with more tracks than a normal single (typically four to six of them). Although they shared size and speed with singles, they were a recognisably-different format than the seven-inch single. Although they could be named after a lead track, they were generally given a different title.^[7] Examples include The Beatles' The Beatles' Hits EP from 1963, and The Troggs' Troggs Tops EP from 1966, both of which collected previously-released tracks.^[7] The playing time was generally between ten and 15 minutes.^[7]They also came in picture sleeves at a time when singles were usually issued in paper company sleeves. EPs tended to be album samplers or collections of singles. EPs of all original material began to appear in the 1960s. An example is The Kinks' Kinksize Session EP from 1964.

During the 1970s, "Maxi-Singles", usually containing three reissued tracks, became fairly popular. Two examples are Jimi Hendrix's "Voodoo Chile" from 1971 and David Bowie's "Space Oddity", a single from 1969 which was reissued in 1975 in RCA's Maxi-Million series. Both of these reached number one in Britain. The 12-inch singles on vinyl, which played at 45 r.p.m., was first sold during 1977, and they commonly had extended-time or additional tracks not contained in the seven-inch 45 rpm singles. An example of one of these extended songs was a ten-or-more minute version of the song Love to Love You Baby by Donna Summer, which took up one entire side of its record.

12-inch EPs were similar, but generally had between three and five tracks and a length of over 12 minutes. ^[7] Like seven-inch EPs, these were given titles.^[7] EP releases were also issued in cassette and 10-inch vinyl formats.^[7] With the advent of the Compact Disc (CD), more music was often included on "single" releases, with four or five tracks being common, and playing times of up to 25 minutes.^[7]

EPs of original material regained popularity in the punk rock era, when they were commonly used for the release of new material, e.g.Buzzcocks' Spiral Scratch EP, which featured four tracks.^[7]

Beginning in the 1980s, many so-called "singles" have been sold in formats with more than two tracks. Because of this, the definition of an EP is not determined only by the number of tracks or the playing time. An EP is typically seen as four (or more) tracks of equal importance, as opposed to a four-track single with an obvious A-side and three B-sides.

In the United Kingdom, any record with more than four distinct tracks or with a playing time of more than 25 minutes is classified as an album for sales-chart purposes.^[4]

An intermediate format between EPs and full-length LPs is the Mini-LP, which was a common album format in the 1980s. These generally contained 20–30 minutes of music.^[7]

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Some artists, especially in the days of vinyl records, have released full-length albums that could fit the definition of a modern-day EP. Bob Dylan's Nashville Skyline, Slayer's Reign In Blood and Weezer's The Green Album are all not considered EPs even though they fall short of half an hour in length. Conversely, there are EPs that are long enough to be albums. Marilyn Manson's Smells Like Children, which is 54 minutes long, is an example. Also, Smashing Pumpkins' "Zero" at over 40 minutes. This is particularly the case with the rare double EP, which contains two discs. The five-track Tulimyrsky EP by Finnish viking metal band Moonsorrow is counted as an EP even though it clocks in at 1:08:18 (the title track alone is 30 minutes long) simply because it contains two cover versions; "For Whom The Bell Tolls" by Metallicaand "Back To North" by Merciless. The Mars Volta had to divide the final 32-minute track, "Cassandra Gemini", of their five-track albumFrances the Mute into eight semi-arbitrary sections so the band would be paid an album's wages rather than an EP's.^{[citation needed]}

There are also some EPs which are even shorter than the standard single. It has become customary in recent years for new bands to release their first release nominally as an "EP" to give it grander connotations than a mere "single". By giving the release a unique name (as opposed to naming it after the lead track on the CD) the band can garner more attention for the other tracks on the CD. Arctic Monkeys, for example, called their first release Five Minutes with Arctic Monkeys rather than Fake Tales of San Francisco (the first track on the CD). In doing this, they put the second track "From The Ritz to the Rubble" in the limelight as well. Thus, Five Minutes With Arctic Monkeys is more akin to a double-A side than a standard EP. Similar releases by other new bands could be described as "triple-A sides" or even "quadruple-A sides".

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ended_play

ok, i'm glad that's it settled, it's an EP not an album. fucksake. the OP only wanted to know if there was a split second error in one of the mp3s and it turns into the debate of the centuary by the bunch of pedantic motherfuckers that invade the org

unique said:

ok, i'm glad that's it settled, it's an EP not an album. fucksake. the OP only wanted to know if there was a split second error in one of the mp3s and it turns into the debate of the centuary by the bunch of pedantic motherfuckers that invade the org

It's not settled, dammit.

Album.

it's EP. it wasn't released as a record, it was a download EP. not a cd, not a tape, not a minidisc, not a DCC, not a laserdisc, not a dvd, it was an EP

and newpowersoul is a fucking prince album regardless of what shite he put on the cover. it's got fucked up cartoons on top of the photo for fucks sake

unique said:

it's EP. it wasn't released as a record, it was a download EP. not a cd, not a tape, not a minidisc, not a DCC, not a laserdisc, not a dvd, it was an EP

and newpowersoul is a fucking prince album regardless of what shite he put on the cover. it's got fucked up cartoons on top of the photo for fucks sake

I burned C-NOTE to CD and wrote "Album" on it.

Mods, you know what to do now.

unique said:

it's EP. it wasn't released as a record, it was a download EP. not a cd, not a tape, not a minidisc, not a DCC, not a laserdisc, not a dvd, it was an EP

and newpowersoul is a fucking prince album regardless of what shite he put on the cover. it's got fucked up cartoons on top of the photo for fucks sake

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...hoanalysis