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Thread started 09/08/10 8:11am

BartVanHemelen

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Picture of Prince featured in new Public Enemy video

http://www.youtube.com/wa...amp;fmt=22

The Prince picture is at 4:09.

Direct link to the moment you can see the pciture:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...2#t=04m09s

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Reply #1 posted 09/08/10 8:35am

SPOOKYGAS

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BartVanHemelen said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...amp;fmt=22

The Prince picture is at 4:09.

Direct link to the moment you can see the pciture:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...2#t=04m09s

I dont get it...was trenty in P.E?

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Reply #2 posted 09/08/10 9:25am

thedance

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'Picture of Prince featured in new Public Enemy video'

Hmm so what? - I wonder what we should do with this information.

Prince is in the great "Even Better Than The Real Thing" by U2 (1991) as well.

I'm sure there's some more showing Prince...?

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Reply #3 posted 09/08/10 3:31pm

yankem

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Oh yeah ! In Talking head's Wild wild life ang Genesis' Land of confusion for instance...well, kind of !

"open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #4 posted 09/08/10 9:28pm

ufoclub

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Cool, Public Enemy's Fear of a Black Planet got played by me and my college friends over and over...

with that repeat loop of Let's go Crazy.

It's funny how Chuck D turned 180 degrees in his opinion of Prince from what he said back in 1987.

and the people that think the U2 video has Prince... that video is featuring a lot of wax museum replicas of stars... including Prince.

Madame Tussaud's Rock Circus

Get it? "Even Better then the Real Thing" - U2

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Reply #5 posted 09/08/10 9:41pm

a2grafix

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Maceo is also shown.

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Reply #6 posted 09/08/10 10:01pm

squirrelgrease

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Cool. Thanks for posting this - I had no idea PE was releasing a box set - I gotta get it. I'm digging the jam and the video.

Tomorrow's headline: "Prince Shows How It Really Is by Sending Public Enemy Cease and Desist Over Image in New Video"

If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #7 posted 09/08/10 10:07pm

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ufoclub said:

It's funny how Chuck D turned 180 degrees in his opinion of Prince from what he said back in 1987.

What did he say in 1987 ufo?

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Reply #8 posted 09/09/10 1:14am

vitriol

^Yes, I also missed that info. Please.

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Reply #9 posted 09/09/10 1:43am

Rioub

On the pop side, people like Prince and Michael Jackson are presenting a poor image for the black male. Michael Jackson is saying “I’m bad” – now come on Michael, be serious! You’ve got a pet llama and a room full of stuffed animals and you want to say you’re bad? The only thing that’s bad is that fake image he’s trying to pull off.

Public Enemy Interview 1987

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Reply #10 posted 09/09/10 1:50am

vitriol

^Well, I can see he was -deservedly- bashing MJ.

But he only namechecked Prince.

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Reply #11 posted 09/09/10 1:50am

squirrelgrease

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Rioub said:

On the pop side, people like Prince and Michael Jackson are presenting a poor image for the black male. Michael Jackson is saying “I’m bad” – now come on Michael, be serious! You’ve got a pet llama and a room full of stuffed animals and you want to say you’re bad? The only thing that’s bad is that fake image he’s trying to pull off.

Public Enemy Interview 1987

He didn't elaborate on why he thought Prince was a poor image for black males. I always wondered what his beef was, but never saw a follow up to this remark.

If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #12 posted 09/09/10 7:59am

ufoclub

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squirrelgrease said:

Rioub said:

On the pop side, people like Prince and Michael Jackson are presenting a poor image for the black male. Michael Jackson is saying “I’m bad” – now come on Michael, be serious! You’ve got a pet llama and a room full of stuffed animals and you want to say you’re bad? The only thing that’s bad is that fake image he’s trying to pull off.

Public Enemy Interview 1987

He didn't elaborate on why he thought Prince was a poor image for black males. I always wondered what his beef was, but never saw a follow up to this remark.

From what I remember reading some magazine interview back in 1987 in some shitty apt my first year at UT in Austin...

He was ragging on weak feminine black pop artist icons in the white man owned media that made the black man look weak and foolish.

PS... anyone remember Marky Mark hating on Prince when Friday Night Videos showed "My Name is Prince"?

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Reply #13 posted 09/10/10 2:18am

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All you singers are spineless

as u sing your senseless songs to the mindless

Your favorite subject love is minimal

its sex for profit

Im kicking myself right now cause I dont remember which track this is from...its definitely on "It Takes a Nation of Millions...", either "Dont Believe the Hype" or "Bring the Noise", but this is what Chuck thought of R&B artists. Ive never heard him speak ill of Prince though.

But at that time, hip hop (especially PE and NWA) was turning the entire music world HARD CORE.

There was no room for "frilly" folks like Prince and MJ.

blunt music She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... music blunt
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Reply #14 posted 09/10/10 3:10am

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harvey milk @ 4:07

clapping

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #15 posted 09/10/10 6:36am

ufoclub

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The interview I read might have been in SPIN magazine, but it might have also been in some little more indie music mag at the time.

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Reply #16 posted 09/10/10 12:45pm

millwall

biggrin cool love pe

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Reply #17 posted 09/11/10 6:19am

inia

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They used one of recent pics of him, that's cool. About their opinion of him back in the day,...well, is it possible to think that they acknowledged his musical contribution while not liking his image? If that's the case, I'm wondering if they still feel the same. I don't agree with their view at all, which makes me doubt their sincerity in doing this.

So, are they just pretending to give him props to make their video more appealing? confused

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Reply #18 posted 09/11/10 6:40am

Lammastide

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IstenSzek said:

harvey milk @ 4:07

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Heck yes! woot! I couldn't believe it. Makes me apprciate PE that much more!

Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #19 posted 09/11/10 9:37am

yankem

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inia said:

They used one of recent pics of him, that's cool. About their opinion of him back in the day,...well, is it possible to think that they acknowledged his musical contribution while not liking his image? If that's the case, I'm wondering if they still feel the same. I don't agree with their view at all, which makes me doubt their sincerity in doing this.

So, are they just pretending to give him props to make their video more appealing? confused

But Chuck D worked with him since... they must have explain things, discuss and understand...

"open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #20 posted 09/12/10 2:00am

Harlepolis

inia said:

They used one of recent pics of him, that's cool. About their opinion of him back in the day,...well, is it possible to think that they acknowledged his musical contribution while not liking his image? If that's the case, I'm wondering if they still feel the same. I don't agree with their view at all, which makes me doubt their sincerity in doing this.

So, are they just pretending to give him props to make their video more appealing? confused

Maybe they're appreciating him for being a music innovator, first & foremost.

There're many artists in rap music that showed admiration for his musicianship despite what they felt toward his image.

I don't think its a shot against their sincerity, they just view it from a different perspective.

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Reply #21 posted 09/12/10 3:03am

PEJ

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Chuck D and Prince have been tight for a while . Remember he was on "Undisputed" on the Rave album. Funny thing is PE dissed R&B artists back then but Prince dissed rappers on "Dead On It" Black album. I guess they grew to respect one another over the years.

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Reply #22 posted 09/12/10 3:29am

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Chuck D and Prince have been tight for a while . Remember he was on "Undisputed" on the Rave album. Funny thing is PE dissed R&B artists back then but Prince dissed rappers on "Dead On It" Black album. I guess they grew to respect one another over the years.


Yes ur right, they do respect and appreciate each other now. Prince is mentioned(in a good way)on countless of hiphop tracks.
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