You're quite the condescending know-it-all dickhead, arent you?

NouveauDance said:

Cerebus said:

Nope. 99% certain that it's the internal test pressing version. It's not the same as the patchwork jobbie, which I also have.

Interesting. AFAIK, it is not circulating, but I would LOVE to be proved wrong!

The actual test pressing sequence definitely isn't circulating.

There's loads of fan-made versions out there, but they're all made by compiling the tracks from other sources. I've yet to meet anyone with the genuine article.

It's not known for certain exactly what versions of tracks were used. There is conflicting info about the exact details of the tracks used on the original Camille album from those who claim to have it. Though it's safe to assume that they're generally the long versions of each track. The so-called "extended versions" of Shockadelica and Feel U Up are really just the original full length versions made before they were edited later for use as 7" b-sides.

"Not in circulation" and "doesn't exist" are two completely different worlds.

Cerebus said:

"Not in circulation" and "doesn't exist" are two completely different worlds.

Then make it circulate

Cerebus said:

"Not in circulation" and "doesn't exist" are two completely different worlds.

Well we're saying it's not circulating, are you saying it doesn't exist?

Cerebus said:

"Not in circulation" and "doesn't exist" are two completely different worlds.

Can I ask what makes you so sure the version you have is the test pressing?

What are the distinctions and the timings?

All the times are within a second or two of those listed in the first post on this thread other than 'Rebirth of the Flesh'. ROTF is an even 5:00 and flows seemlessy into 'Housequake'. Also, most songs are slightly different, but obviously so, than later released versions. Different mix, different synth parts or sound effects. Probably not the real thing, which won't be too much of a disappointment, really. But I was told that it was.

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Do you think Prince or someone close to him comes on here, reads these threads, then they sit around with him giggling, "Remember those 8 songs you recorded 24 years ago? Yeah, out of the hundreds and hundreds sitting in the vault... Well on p'org, they're still arguing about which order they go in! BWAHAHAH" ????

Chas said:

Do you think Prince or someone close to him comes on here, reads these threads, then they sit around with him giggling, "Remember those 8 songs you recorded 24 years ago? Yeah, out of the hundreds and hundreds sitting in the vault... Well on p'org, they're still arguing about which order they go in! BWAHAHAH" ????

No. He takes himself too seriously for anyone around him to even think that.

Cerebus said:

All the times are within a second or two of those listed in the first post on this thread other than 'Rebirth of the Flesh'. ROTF is an even 5:00 and flows seemlessy into 'Housequake'. Also, most songs are slightly different, but obviously so, than later released versions. Different mix, different synth parts or sound effects. Probably not the real thing, which won't be too much of a disappointment, really. But I was told that it was.

Yup, not the test pressing. And that cover is just a fan made one - based off the Black Album as you can tell.

NouveauDance said:

Cerebus said:

All the times are within a second or two of those listed in the first post on this thread other than 'Rebirth of the Flesh'. ROTF is an even 5:00 and flows seemlessy into 'Housequake'. Also, most songs are slightly different, but obviously so, than later released versions. Different mix, different synth parts or sound effects. Probably not the real thing, which won't be too much of a disappointment, really. But I was told that it was.

Yup, not the test pressing. And that cover is just a fan made one - based off the Black Album as you can tell.

Actually hadn't even thought about it, but it looks like you're right. However, the songs are still different than any other versions I have. Oh well. I'll figure it out someday, I'm sure.

Cerebus said:

NouveauDance said:

Yup, not the test pressing. And that cover is just a fan made one - based off the Black Album as you can tell.

Actually hadn't even thought about it, but it looks like you're right. However, the songs are still different than any other versions I have. Oh well. I'll figure it out someday, I'm sure.

Yeah, I remember this being sold on eBay as the actual deal, but it's a fan made boot. Judging by how many of these "rare" CDs were sold, having a barcode and a readily available vector Paisley Park logo on the artwork is an easy way for an Ebay seller to screw people out of their hard earned cash. I'm not sure the intent of the compiler of that particular Camille boot was actually to fool anyone. This is why most of the free-trade releases have "Free. Not for sale." sprinkled all over the artwork, as these types of unscrupulous transactions are bound to happen. Of course, putting "Free" on it still doesn't seem to stop those who wish to profit on the Wild West Web.

The above was probably sourced from this:

PRINCE - "Camille" (unreleased album) ( not CD or Vinyl sourced !!! )FLAC
TAPE>CDwave>WAVE>MAGIXMUSICLAB2007>WAVE>DBPoweramp>FLAC>[snip - squirrelgrease]




1. Rebirth of the Flesh2. Housequake3. Strange Relationship4. Feel U Up5. Shockadelica6. Good Love7. If I Was Your Girlfriend8. Rock Hard in a Funky Place


I got this one in a trade in the late 80's.
Some of the tracks were later released official on
"Black Album", "Crystal Ball",......
But I got them short after or short before the "SOTT" album came out.
So maybe they are different than the later versions.
I remastered it, as good as I could, I didn¥t make
speedcorrection because it¥s hard to say if they are ok as they sound.
My tape begins with "Housequake", so I took the "Rebirth..."
version [snip - squirrelgrease]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_(album)

^That seems to be from Arcorman.

So really nothing to write home about.

vitriol said:

^That seems to be from Arcorman.

So really nothing to write home about.

That's the copy I have (different art than above), but didn't the Pimpsandwich release(s) come from the same source, but were tweaked and crossfaded? I thought I had the Pimpsandwich version of Camille (Special Edition), but I guess I don't. Basically the same cover art as the one posted above but with a couple extra tracks.

Are both of the black and peach boots of Camille and Camille - Special Edition by Pimpsandwich?

I don't think Pimpsandwich's version comes from Arcorman's tape (which I didn't bother grabbing).

vitriol said:

I don't think Pimpsandwich's version comes from Arcorman's tape (which I didn't bother grabbing).

Gotcha.

My Pimpsandwich version has Crucial as a bonus track.

^That was the first version. Still don't know wtf is that track doing there.

I didn't know about a Cammy boot with the track Crucial, that is odd. This is the Pimpsammich boot I'm looking for (not asking here, though - gotta follow rules):

[img:$uid]http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n276/squirrelgrease/PrinceBootlegs-4/camilleseback.jpg[/img:$uid]

I remember hearing the pimpsandwich version and thinking it sounded like a fan made version, especially with Crucial at the end, but if there is a different, proper version then I'd like to hear it, that and the supposed tape from arcorman (sp?) that's being mentioned above. Myself, I've always assumed that every version of the album I've heard where Rebirth ends with the "COME TO THE CRYSTAL BALL" voice can't be the real thing. That said, I seem to recall T saying at one point or another that the songs were the same as what was later released although Housequake might have had a very subtle difference and Good Love was the edit from the 97/98 Crystal Ball set.