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Crystal Ball CD Booklet

Does anyone have a scan of this? Did the "round" casing version ever come with a booklet or just the online liner notes? I only ever remember getting the discs themselves and never knew if a booklet ever did exist on any version

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Reply #1 posted 09/03/10 3:00am

PANDURITO

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Apparently the 4 CD version came with a Circular 18 Page Deluxe Cd Booklet. (Just seen at amazon)

My 5 CD version came without any printed booklet. I guess we all received that. shrug

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Reply #2 posted 09/03/10 3:03am

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IIRC, only the retail versions came with the booklet?

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Reply #3 posted 09/03/10 3:05am

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Reply #4 posted 09/03/10 3:15am

MikeyB71

[img:$uid]http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx218/MMikeyBee/Prince%20and%20related/Prince%20record%20and%20mag%20covers/smpart.gif[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx218/MMikeyBee/Prince%20and%20related/Prince%20record%20and%20mag%20covers/109571B.jpg[/img:$uid]

Both regular jewel box and round box had the booklet. Whether it was just the retail versions i do not know.

And as for it being a "deluxe" booklet, well, that is a matter of opinion. confused

Sorry, i do not have scans.

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Reply #5 posted 09/03/10 4:04am

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i ordered it from 1 800 new funk...think i did on the phone....this was when the internet was just getting going...it was posted to me....in the clear round plastic cover ...5 discs....didnt come with booklet...not to me anyway...

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Reply #6 posted 09/03/10 4:08am

MikeyB71

blackbob said:

i ordered it from 1 800 new funk...think i did on the phone....this was when the internet was just getting going...it was posted to me....in the clear round plastic cover ...5 discs....didnt come with booklet...not to me anyway...

Looks to be that only the reatail versions came with the booklet bob.

The booklet had the tracklist of each cd, and underneath every song title a little sentence or two about the origin of the track.

Nothing special really, no pictures of any kind, but a nice wee addition. I wonder why the internet release never had the booklet?

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Reply #7 posted 09/03/10 4:11am

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there was a website with artwork to each song and a short history on each song on cb....you can still get the artwork on the internet if you look....

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Reply #8 posted 09/03/10 4:14am

MikeyB71

blackbob said:

there was a website with artwork to each song and a short history on each song on cb....you can still get the artwork on the internet if you look....

Yeah, if it is the site i am thinking of it also had the song lyrics too.

The site seems to be down now.

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Reply #9 posted 09/03/10 4:23am

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MikeyB71 said:

[img:$uid]http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx218/MMikeyBee/Prince%20and%20related/Prince%20record%20and%20mag%20covers/smpart.gif[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx218/MMikeyBee/Prince%20and%20related/Prince%20record%20and%20mag%20covers/109571B.jpg[/img:$uid]

Both regular jewel box and round box had the booklet. Whether it was just the retail versions i do not know.

And as for it being a "deluxe" booklet, well, that is a matter of opinion. confused

Sorry, i do not have scans.

Correct. Though it's true that the 1-800-New Funk mail order 5-CD sets did not get the booklet.

Online booklet: http://www.crystalballcd....rames.html

Noiseland Industries story behind the packaging: http://www.noiseland.com/gallery/

Steve Parke on the packaging and subsequent 1-800-NEW FUNK fiasco:

Crystal Ball Legacy - Published on: 5/26/1999 Last Visited: 5/11/2002

According to Steve Parke, the art director for "Crystal Ball," in an interview given to Replication News, the Artist wanted something different that would not only "catch the eye," but would "circumvent the bootleggers by putting out a package they can't replicate."Apparently the original plan was to come up with a package that would live up to the "Crystal Ball" name, but there was some concerns over breakage and the notion of packing and shipping a fragile piece.And then once it was decided that the package would be available in stores, Parke adds, "A lot of the time, retailers won't deal with it if they can't put it on their shelves."Therefore, if you'll pardon the pun, the "real" alternative packaging got shelved.What we ended up with instead is a 3-piece clear plastic contraption--shaped like a large pill--where the middle "half-moon" piece holds the 5 discs, and the two clear outer plastic dishes encapsulate the funk.In a wee bit ofirony, the discs themselves, much like the actual music contained within, don't fit the mould.In fact, you'll need the hands of a surgeon to get your 5-discs to fit in their proper slots without scratching them all to hell.And, make no mistake, no matter how hard you squint, the packaging doesn't look even remotely like a crystal ball.

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Parke explains, "We later changed our minds when we realised that not everyone had access to the Internet."Apparently then, this decision must have been made after the first batch of "Crystal Ball" albums were already manufactured and sealed, because fans who ordered via phone did not get the booklet, but those who purchased their copies in stores did. Why they couldn't have just printed up extra booklets and thrown in a copy with the FedEx package, I certainly can't understand.However, maybe it was for the best, as adding yet another element of possible confusion onto NewFunks' already shaky cardboard table, would no doubt have created even more confusion, and may have just collapsed the damn thing altogether!I can just imagine the look on the poor person's face who does not have access to the Internet or one of the Fanzines trying to figure out what music is on these 5 discs, when only the tracks contained on the fourth disc are labelled.Talk about your adventures!Somebody needs to send these folks at least a hand-scribbled note containing the track list, or else they might just have to make up names to all these songs for themselves; much like has already been done for years by bootleggers.

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Reply #10 posted 09/03/10 4:27am

MikeyB71

^ top info squirrelgrease. The crystalballcd.com site is the one i was on about. It seems to have been given a revamp, hence the link i had in my favs being dead.

Thanks.

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Reply #11 posted 09/03/10 6:47am

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Article from Record Collector, april 1998: the backside pic (no Prince on the front)...

[img:$uid]http://a.imageshack.us/img836/1249/recordcollector1998.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://a.imageshack.us/img210/6884/recordcollector1.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://a.imageshack.us/img26/861/recordcollector2.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://a.imageshack.us/img207/2343/recordcollector3.jpg[/img:$uid]

^ the scans are a little hard to read, sorry. sad

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Reply #12 posted 09/03/10 7:32am

Spinlight

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squirrelgrease said:

Online booklet: http://www.crystalballcd....rames.html

Interesting fact: Before the tracklist for Crystal Ball was released and the website booklet finished, the devs put some random favorite outtake titles in the crystal ball graphic that linked to small passages about the songs. "Our Love" and "Roadhouse Garden" were both listed on the ball with a message from the devs stating that though they did not know if those 2 songs would be on the album, they were 2 of their favorites and hoped they would make it.

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Reply #13 posted 09/03/10 7:55am

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Wow, I remember than issue of Record Collector - that magazine was a little lifeline pre-internet.

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Reply #14 posted 09/03/10 8:10am

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thedance said:

Article from Record Collector, april 1998: the backside pic (no Prince on the front)...

Oh SHITE!!

On page 136 of the article it says that Version #3, The U.S. Mail Order Version, comes with a T-Shirt?!? I never got a T-Shirt!!

I do not remember this. But, after the LotusFlow3r.com fiasco, it's very interesting...

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Reply #15 posted 09/03/10 8:13am

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djThunderfunk said:

thedance said:

Article from Record Collector, april 1998: the backside pic (no Prince on the front)...

Oh SHITE!!

On page 136 of the article it says that Version #3, The U.S. Mail Order Version, comes with a T-Shirt?!? I never got a T-Shirt!!

I do not remember this. But, after the LotusFlow3r.com fiasco, it's very interesting...

The Crystal Ball fiasco was worse than the LotusFlower fiasco.

The T shirt I got was lame as fuck. It said "eye heart prince" on the front and "prince hearts me" on the back, white shirt with black print.

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Reply #16 posted 09/03/10 8:19am

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I think they sent out the shirts to quell all the angry fans, who were really mad by the time the CDs got into their hands. Everyone got different shirts.

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Reply #17 posted 09/03/10 8:21am

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Spinlight said:

djThunderfunk said:

Oh SHITE!!

On page 136 of the article it says that Version #3, The U.S. Mail Order Version, comes with a T-Shirt?!? I never got a T-Shirt!!

I do not remember this. But, after the LotusFlow3r.com fiasco, it's very interesting...

The Crystal Ball fiasco was worse than the LotusFlower fiasco.

The T shirt I got was lame as fuck. It said "eye heart prince" on the front and "prince hearts me" on the back, white shirt with black print.

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It was certainly worse for me because I didn't join LotusFlow3r but I did go through the CB experience. I just never knew of the shirt...

I guess "The War" cassette I got was supposed to make up for all the problems... too bad it wasn't a CD, that might have shut me up. biggrin

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Reply #18 posted 09/03/10 9:22am

Cinnie

MY question is, who got The Truth and who got Kamasutra? Who got both and a War cassette? I sure as hell didn't, but I got the liner notes.

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Reply #19 posted 09/03/10 9:50am

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Spinlight said:

djThunderfunk said:

Oh SHITE!!

On page 136 of the article it says that Version #3, The U.S. Mail Order Version, comes with a T-Shirt?!? I never got a T-Shirt!!

I do not remember this. But, after the LotusFlow3r.com fiasco, it's very interesting...

The Crystal Ball fiasco was worse than the LotusFlower fiasco.

The T shirt I got was lame as fuck. It said "eye heart prince" on the front and "prince hearts me" on the back, white shirt with black print.

[Edited 9/3/10 8:14am]

My t-shirt said "I love funky music" on the front. And the back said, I love safe sex" Its one of my house shirts. I forgot how I got that shirt. haha.

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Reply #20 posted 09/03/10 9:51am

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Cinnie said:

MY question is, who got The Truth and who got Kamasutra? Who got both and a War cassette? I sure as hell didn't, but I got the liner notes.

You wouldn't order online.

The 5CD version included both The Truth and Kamasutra. And the T-Shirt. And a few months later, the War cassette.

I got it all in my faraway land. smile

Well, everything but the booklet pout

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Reply #21 posted 09/03/10 9:52am

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kaine said:

My t-shirt said "I love funky music" on the front. And the back said, I love safe sex" Its one of my house shirts. I forgot how I got that shirt. haha.

nod That's the one I got too smile

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Reply #22 posted 09/03/10 10:02am

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Cinnie said:

MY question is, who got The Truth and who got Kamasutra? Who got both and a War cassette? I sure as hell didn't, but I got the liner notes.

I got the 5 CDs (including The Truth & Kamasutra) in the hockey puck case with no liner notes. Later I recieved The War on cassette. Then I got another The War on cassette. No shirt.

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Reply #23 posted 09/03/10 10:12am

MikeyB71

So when did The War on cd crop up?

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Reply #24 posted 09/03/10 10:36am

Cinnie

MikeyB71 said:

So when did The War on cd crop up?

... Did it ever?

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Reply #25 posted 09/03/10 10:52am

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Spinlight said:

squirrelgrease said:

Online booklet: http://www.crystalballcd....rames.html

Interesting fact: Before the tracklist for Crystal Ball was released and the website booklet finished, the devs put some random favorite outtake titles in the crystal ball graphic that linked to small passages about the songs. "Our Love" and "Roadhouse Garden" were both listed on the ball with a message from the devs stating that though they did not know if those 2 songs would be on the album, they were 2 of their favorites and hoped they would make it.

That is interesting, I didn't know that tidbit.

You can actually still listen to and download WAV files of Crystal Ball snippets from the cached L4OA site: http://web.archive.org/we...groove.htm

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Reply #26 posted 09/03/10 11:24am

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MikeyB71 said:

So when did The War on cd crop up?

It was originally part of a share/donation tree where CD-Rs were distributed to those that asked. The mail order arm of 1-800-New Funk and the website offered pressed copies for sale($10?) sometime after that, but sold out pretty quickly. I'm not sure of a specific date where silvers were offered to the public, but I got mine post-haste as I expected there to be strong demand. I also received two cassettes(at different times) and a tiny t-shirt with my Crystal Ball order.

From The Truth Issue #2:

[img:$uid]http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n276/squirrelgrease/TheTruth-2-4/TheTruth02_War.jpg[/img:$uid]

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Reply #27 posted 09/03/10 12:31pm

MikeyB71

squirrelgrease said:

MikeyB71 said:

So when did The War on cd crop up?

It was originally part of a share/donation tree where CD-Rs were distributed to those that asked. The mail order arm of 1-800-New Funk and the website offered pressed copies for sale($10?) sometime after that, but sold out pretty quickly. I'm not sure of a specific date where silvers were offered to the public, but I got mine post-haste as I expected there to be strong demand. I also received two cassettes(at different times) and a tiny t-shirt with my Crystal Ball order.

From The Truth Issue #2:

[img:$uid]http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n276/squirrelgrease/TheTruth-2-4/TheTruth02_War.jpg[/img:$uid]

Yes, the copies i have seen of The war on cd are not the cd-r, they are proper pressed up cd's with a card sleeve with the artwork.

It is one of very few Prince cd's that i have not managed to buy yet, it is very rare to find one on cd now, but mainly because prices are so high. I will have to bite the bullet and buy one some day before prices become too silly.

[Edited 9/3/10 12:32pm]

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squirrelgrease said:

Spinlight said:

Interesting fact: Before the tracklist for Crystal Ball was released and the website booklet finished, the devs put some random favorite outtake titles in the crystal ball graphic that linked to small passages about the songs. "Our Love" and "Roadhouse Garden" were both listed on the ball with a message from the devs stating that though they did not know if those 2 songs would be on the album, they were 2 of their favorites and hoped they would make it.

That is interesting, I didn't know that tidbit.

You can actually still listen to and download WAV files of Crystal Ball snippets from the cached L4OA site: http://web.archive.org/we...groove.htm

That's awesome! I remember playing those so many times, over and over. I had never heard "Dream Factory" or "Calhoun Square" or (obviously) "Make Yo Mama Happy" at that point and was REALLY impressed with "Days of Wild" because I think his live versions have always eclipsed the studio track (which I've always found as being rather bland and repetitive).

I'm really getting nostalgic looking at the L41A site. Back when I respected Prince still and he was still weird enough to be charming. Now he's just fucking annoying.

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Reply #29 posted 09/03/10 3:15pm

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December 30, 1997

Big news on the Ball set
CRYSTAL BALLERS - 2 assist in distribution, a major retail outlet has xspressed interest...4 now they shall go unnamed... every1 who ordered the Crystal Ball, please b patient...shipping will b gin when the final details r worked with this distributor. wants it available everywhere when the mailing starts... there is now an added surprise 4 the friends who pre-ordered early!! 1-800-NewFunk will deliver... naysayers will eat words on toast when the Ball drops!

The post that started it all (the huge divide between Prince fans on AMP). Naysayers, indeed.

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