Like a deadbeat Dad or a Mother that has way too many kids beyond her financial means.. Prince puts out tons of music (kids) without supporting them (raising them) so they can reach their full potential by reaching as many sets of ears as possible. He has been more guarded of his live performance. Evidence of that is the lack of official concert videos available. This contributes to why Prince is still a relativly successful touring artist. Why can't he treat his albums like that by releasing less product? The man can do what he wants but although most of us on this site buy and seek out most of what P puts out, it would be nice to not feel like such a misfit and have the general public share our appreciation of Mr. Nelson.

There's something I don't like about the words "Prince", "dead", and "Dad" in the same sentence.

Spinlight said:

There's something I don't like about the words "Prince", "dead", and "Dad" in the same sentence.

Um...ok? There's something about the words "I", "don't", "like", and "Prince" in your sentence. Seriously, can you not help to steer away from the topic please?

bigben07 said:

Like a deadbeat Dad or a Mother that has way too many kids beyond her financial means.. Prince puts out tons of music (kids) without supporting them (raising them) so they can reach their full potential by reaching as many sets of ears as possible.

maybe prince would argue that once a song is finished, recorded and released, he's done his job as a parent and his kids are all grown up and sent out into the world to make it on their own.

I know what you mean actually.

But this has been a problem since day one. Prince has always had a fairly short attention span when it comes to new projects. He puts something out and then moves on to the next project without looking back. When Emancipation came out he said it was going to be a 3 year project. We got two singles and a greatest hits tour and that was that.

Just enjoy the music. Prince isn't going to change.

bigben07 said:

Spinlight said:

There's something I don't like about the words "Prince", "dead", and "Dad" in the same sentence.

Um...ok? There's something about the words "I", "don't", "like", and "Prince" in your sentence. Seriously, can you not help to steer away from the topic please?

The topic is asinine. The comparison between the two situations is ridiculous.

robinhood said:

bigben07 said:

Like a deadbeat Dad or a Mother that has way too many kids beyond her financial means.. Prince puts out tons of music (kids) without supporting them (raising them) so they can reach their full potential by reaching as many sets of ears as possible.

maybe prince would argue that once a song is finished, recorded and released, he's done his job as a parent and his kids are all grown up and sent out into the world to make it on their own.

I hope Prince doesn't think that but I'm afraid he just might. Unfortunately, without huge promotional support from a huge media entity like MTV or Radio One, a good song will most likely not be a hit..no matter how good it is.

robinhood said:

bigben07 said:

Like a deadbeat Dad or a Mother that has way too many kids beyond her financial means.. Prince puts out tons of music (kids) without supporting them (raising them) so they can reach their full potential by reaching as many sets of ears as possible.

maybe prince would argue that once a song is finished, recorded and released, he's done his job as a parent and his kids are all grown up and sent out into the world to make it on their own.

Exactly. And since Prince doesn't celebrate Christmas, when would they ever get together?

Spinlight said:

bigben07 said:

Um...ok? There's something about the words "I", "don't", "like", and "Prince" in your sentence. Seriously, can you not help to steer away from the topic please?

The topic is asinine. The comparison between the two situations is ridiculous.

You're very funny. My topic is almost as asinine as being bothered by pulling words out of a sentence, reordering them, and being bothered by what the new order out of their original context means. Wheel Of Fortune is probably hard for you.

bigben07 said:

robinhood said:

maybe prince would argue that once a song is finished, recorded and released, he's done his job as a parent and his kids are all grown up and sent out into the world to make it on their own.

I hope Prince doesn't think that but I'm afraid he just might. Unfortunately, without huge promotional support from a huge media entity like MTV or Radio One, a good song will most likely not be a hit..no matter how good it is.

our opinions may differ, but for me, a hit is a song that hits me.

chart position doesnt tend to affect the way i'm moved by a song or to what degree i can enjoy it.

but i do understand your feeling on how nice it'd be for so many of prince's great songs to be heard by so many more people.

i believe that anyone who is meant to hear prince's work, will, sooner or later

robinhood said:

bigben07 said:

Like a deadbeat Dad or a Mother that has way too many kids beyond her financial means.. Prince puts out tons of music (kids) without supporting them (raising them) so they can reach their full potential by reaching as many sets of ears as possible.

maybe prince would argue that once a song is finished, recorded and released, he's done his job as a parent and his kids are all grown up and sent out into the world to make it on their own.

They're out on their own till they win the lottery, then he's back in their life making his case as the world's best dad.

bigben07 said:

Spinlight said:

The topic is asinine. The comparison between the two situations is ridiculous.

You're very funny. My topic is almost as asinine as being bothered by pulling words out of a sentence, reordering them, and being bothered by what the new order out of their original context means. Wheel Of Fortune is probably hard for you.

It was the first thing that came to mind after reading your absurd post. Kind of like that mode of thinking where if someone asks a dumb question, they get a dumb answer in return.

robinhood said:

bigben07 said:

I hope Prince doesn't think that but I'm afraid he just might. Unfortunately, without huge promotional support from a huge media entity like MTV or Radio One, a good song will most likely not be a hit..no matter how good it is.

our opinions may differ, but for me, a hit is a song that hits me.

chart position doesnt tend to affect the way i'm moved by a song or to what degree i can enjoy it.

but i do understand your feeling on how nice it'd be for so many of prince's great songs to be heard by so many more people.

i believe that anyone who is meant to hear prince's work, will, sooner or later

I agree, first priority is how a song personally hits me. But I just think that he focuses on quanity and not quality. I have some friends in the hood that boast about how many kids they have, but are doing nothing to make sure these same children have a solid education, stable home, or half a chance to make it on their own as an adult. It's no coincidence that Prince's biggest successes as a songwriter came when he was under a major label that had the tools to push those songs in the marketplace.

NouveauDance said:

robinhood said:

maybe prince would argue that once a song is finished, recorded and released, he's done his job as a parent and his kids are all grown up and sent out into the world to make it on their own.

They're out on their own till they win the lottery, then he's back in their life making his case as the world's best dad.

lok that may be true, the whole irony of this being that prince might still be just a kid himself

Spinlight said:

bigben07 said:

You're very funny. My topic is almost as asinine as being bothered by pulling words out of a sentence, reordering them, and being bothered by what the new order out of their original context means. Wheel Of Fortune is probably hard for you.

It was the first thing that came to mind after reading your absurd post. Kind of like that mode of thinking where if someone asks a dumb question, they get a dumb answer in return.

Well thanks for your dumb answer to my dumb question? Again, steer this topic off the main road until it crashes if that's what you are intending to do. I guess you implied that my topic reminded you of Prince's dead Dad or something? Because I used "Prince", "dead", and "Dad" in the same sentence? And now you claim your response was a goofy reply to my dumb topic? I must say, there is nothing funny about losing a parent, I lost both of my parents last year. And to pull those thoughts out of my post so you could reply with what you thought was a wise-ass comment is just cold. Ice cold.

bigben07 said:

robinhood said:

our opinions may differ, but for me, a hit is a song that hits me.

chart position doesnt tend to affect the way i'm moved by a song or to what degree i can enjoy it.

but i do understand your feeling on how nice it'd be for so many of prince's great songs to be heard by so many more people.

i believe that anyone who is meant to hear prince's work, will, sooner or later

I agree, first priority is how a song personally hits me. But I just think that he focuses on quanity and not quality. I have some friends in the hood that boast about how many kids they have, but are doing nothing to make sure these same children have a solid education, stable home, or half a chance to make it on their own as an adult. It's no coincidence that Prince's biggest successes as a songwriter came when he was under a major label that had the tools to push those songs in the marketplace.

if we look at this a little more closely a whole new can of worms opens up:

this little matrix we all live in, with all these preconceived notions of whats hot and whats not

like fame and popularity, whether or not a song makes it to the masses

all our little ideas of whats important according to what we've been told by who knows...

what if we flipped it all on its head?

what would matter then?

bigben07 said:

Spinlight said:

It was the first thing that came to mind after reading your absurd post. Kind of like that mode of thinking where if someone asks a dumb question, they get a dumb answer in return.

Well thanks for your dumb answer to my dumb question? Again, steer this topic off the main road until it crashes if that's what you are intending to do. I guess you implied that my topic reminded you of Prince's dead Dad or something? Because I used "Prince", "dead", and "Dad" in the same sentence? And now you claim your response was a goofy reply to my dumb topic? I must say, there is nothing funny about losing a parent, I lost both of my parents last year. And to pull those thoughts out of my post so you could reply with what you thought was a wise-ass comment is just cold. Ice cold.

bigben07 said:

Like a deadbeat Dad or a Mother that has way too many kids beyond her financial means.. Prince puts out tons of music (kids) without supporting them (raising them) so they can reach their full potential by reaching as many sets of ears as possible. He has been more guarded of his live performance. Evidence of that is the lack of official concert videos available. This contributes to why Prince is still a relativly successful touring artist. Why can't he treat his albums like that by releasing less product? The man can do what he wants but although most of us on this site buy and seek out most of what P puts out, it would be nice to not feel like such a misfit and have the general public share our appreciation of Mr. Nelson.

I have to agree about the heading being quite offensive/unsettling, but then I don't like that term in any context.

Irrespective of that, I think the metaphor is flawed - if anything, Prince can be a little over-protective of his musical children.

He doesn't let them play with the other kids on youtube and itunes, he hardly even lets them go online at all and recently he's been making sure they all get paper rounds!

More seriously, you're maybe making assumptions about what is most important to Prince - rightly or wrongly (whatever that means), they're the product of his creativity and hard work and, as you say, he can treat them as he so wishes.

And I certainly don't feel like a misfit for turning up at a friend's place with a CD full of music no one's heard and having everyone love the tracks - for someone like me, it's like borrowed cool

Spinlight said:

bigben07 said:

Um...ok? There's something about the words "I", "don't", "like", and "Prince" in your sentence. Seriously, can you not help to steer away from the topic please?

The topic is asinine. The comparison between the two situations is ridiculous.

Actually, it's not, especially when you consider how much Prince touted his songs as his "children".

His time w/ Warner Bros was like a long marriage that spawned a lot of kids. But WB got custody. Prince has weekend dates with them and visitation (like playing the same 80's shit over and over in concert).

Whereas once he got divorced from WB, he carelessly started making babies that even he didn't want. He named them names like "Props And Pounds", "2045: Radical Man", "Hypnoparadise", "Avalanche", "On The Couch", Musicology, 3121, Lotusflow3r, etc. His rainbow children really aren't such a pot of gold after all, it seems.

ernestsewell said:

Spinlight said:

The topic is asinine. The comparison between the two situations is ridiculous.

Actually, it's not, especially when you consider how much Prince touted his songs as his "children".

His time w/ Warner Bros was like a long marriage that spawned a lot of kids. But WB got custody. Prince has weekend dates with them and visitation (like playing the same 80's shit over and over in concert).

Whereas once he got divorced from WB, he carelessly started making babies that even he didn't want. He named them names like "Props And Pounds", "2045: Radical Man", "Hypnoparadise", "Avalanche", "On The Couch", Musicology, 3121, Lotusflow3r, etc. His rainbow children really aren't such a pot of gold after all, it seems.

So his Future Baby Mama is just another muse?

ernestsewell said:

Spinlight said:

The topic is asinine. The comparison between the two situations is ridiculous.

Actually, it's not, especially when you consider how much Prince touted his songs as his "children".

His time w/ Warner Bros was like a long marriage that spawned a lot of kids. But WB got custody. Prince has weekend dates with them and visitation (like playing the same 80's shit over and over in concert).

Whereas once he got divorced from WB, he carelessly started making babies that even he didn't want. He named them names like "Props And Pounds", "2045: Radical Man", "Hypnoparadise", "Avalanche", "On The Couch", Musicology, 3121, Lotusflow3r, etc. His rainbow children really aren't such a pot of gold after all, it seems.

Why not call him Ronald McDonald and his songs are cheeseburgers and over the years, the more money he made from making his cheeseburger songs, the worse they got, but people threw money at him anyway.

ernestsewell said:

Spinlight said:

The topic is asinine. The comparison between the two situations is ridiculous.

Actually, it's not, especially when you consider how much Prince touted his songs as his "children".

His time w/ Warner Bros was like a long marriage that spawned a lot of kids. But WB got custody. Prince has weekend dates with them and visitation (like playing the same 80's shit over and over in concert).

Whereas once he got divorced from WB, he carelessly started making babies that even he didn't want. He named them names like "Props And Pounds", "2045: Radical Man", "Hypnoparadise", "Avalanche", "On The Couch", Musicology, 3121, Lotusflow3r, etc. His rainbow children really aren't such a pot of gold after all, it seems.

i have to agree. gotta admit, the stuff he did while with WB was good, better than once he was gone in a lot of ways...or maybe his kids got a clue when he joined the cult that is being a witness and went on their own, cause they're doing better with ot without daddy.

Spinlight said:

Why not call him Ronald McDonald and his songs are cheeseburgers and over the years, the more money he made from making his cheeseburger songs, the worse they got, but people threw money at him anyway.

Do you listen to yourself talk, or do you drift in and out?

lydiaravenswood said:

ernestsewell said:

Actually, it's not, especially when you consider how much Prince touted his songs as his "children".

His time w/ Warner Bros was like a long marriage that spawned a lot of kids. But WB got custody. Prince has weekend dates with them and visitation (like playing the same 80's shit over and over in concert).

Whereas once he got divorced from WB, he carelessly started making babies that even he didn't want. He named them names like "Props And Pounds", "2045: Radical Man", "Hypnoparadise", "Avalanche", "On The Couch", Musicology, 3121, Lotusflow3r, etc. His rainbow children really aren't such a pot of gold after all, it seems.

i have to agree. gotta admit, the stuff he did while with WB was good, better than once he was gone in a lot of ways...or maybe his kids got a clue when he joined the cult that is being a witness and went on their own, cause they're doing better with ot without daddy.

U really think so? I don't think so. I think he has done some great work since he's been "free", but the songs weren't marketed well at all.

Musicology has to be the best promoted project since he's been free from WB. The rest of the projects were about making a bunch of cash up front and not caring if the people buy it or not.

i don't care about market, i care about my taste, i listened to the songs and i just couldn't get intot hem like his older work. the only ones that outside of being with wb was new power soul, that rocked....but as i also mentioned, i think his songs haven't been that great since he changed to being a witness...

ernestsewell said:

Spinlight said:

Why not call him Ronald McDonald and his songs are cheeseburgers and over the years, the more money he made from making his cheeseburger songs, the worse they got, but people threw money at him anyway.

Do you listen to yourself talk, or do you drift in and out?

Opinions, Mr. Christian, we all have them.

no hes not

if anything hes the daddy that spoils his kids too much

and were the spoiled rotten bad ass kids

PicklesMcMillan said:

no hes not

if anything hes the daddy that spoils his kids too much

and were the spoiled rotten bad ass kids ...

... who pay their daddy handsome sums to "spoil" them? How do you figure?

As to the OP. You don't like the pattern, you can always stop supporting Prince. Direct your dollars elsewhere.

"Let the market decide!"

ThreadBare said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

no hes not

if anything hes the daddy that spoils his kids too much

and were the spoiled rotten bad ass kids ...

... who pay their daddy handsome sums to "spoil" them? How do you figure?

As to the OP. You don't like the pattern, you can always stop supporting Prince. Direct your dollars elsewhere.

"Let the market decide!"

spoiled us with yearly music ...thats what mean

the daddy just enjoys the kids being there and carrying the family name

its the daddy job to provide for the kids but the daddy can spoil the kids too much

but its not the kids fault

and i will support what i like and i like prince... reguardless of anything and anyone