Thread started 07/21/10 2:59amyogamoma88 |
Hating on 20TEN lyrics? I've seen a lot of complaints about the lyrics on 20TEN (and other recent releases). But just wondering what is the problem that people have with the lyrics on 20TEN? Is it the themes / messages, the simplicity, or both?
Personally, I like words that I can understand. The lyrics on 20TEN are sincere and straightforward (although there are a few that puzzle me). Seems to me that the focus is on the messages, rather than trying too hard to be poetic (translate to cryptic and convoluted).
But I understand, it's hard to compete with sitting on a lilly pad with a horny toad (that is a fun lyric and definitely has its time and place too LOVE IS THE ONLY WAY |
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Reply #1 posted 07/21/10 3:01am
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Reply #3 posted 07/21/10 6:50am
robinhood |
i respect his work as a poet/lyricist, but i cant take him seriously any more.
i dont believe him on this record. i appreciate he has a quasi childlike approach to his lyrical content
but the sincerity is lacking.
i dont mind if his lyrics arent super cool coded messages or deep and meaningful or basic straight ahead literal prose..
it just feels like he's in some alternate universe where every emotion is a put-on.
that over-all feeling comes through in the lyrics and the way he sings them. this too shall pass |
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Reply #4 posted 07/21/10 7:54am
Reply #5 posted 07/21/10 8:13am
funksterr |
Who here is interested in lyrics about a millionaire who doesn't want to pay his taxes? Who is interested in hearing about "dogmatic persecution"? What about a gospel inflected by the numbers rocker that is likely a JW Watchtower article? What about a wannabe Staples Singers track? Dull, dull, dull. |
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Reply #6 posted 07/21/10 8:32am
NeoGeo24bit |
Lavaux is probably the most honest and well written song he's done in many years. So what if he doesn't want to pay any taxes? Who the hell does? |
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Reply #8 posted 07/21/10 9:00am
2freaky4church 1 |
There some of his best lyrics in years. Any hate is pure ignorance.
The Purple Yoda has his head on straight. All you others say Hell Yea!! |
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Reply #9 posted 07/21/10 9:27am
mayrain |
andykeen said:
"Never mind the birdfeed honey, just tell me your name"
I really don't think it's birdfeed. I think he says "Never mind the bird behind me, just tell me your name." I think when he says "bird" he means woman I could be wrong. That is the only way that makes sense to me. Proverbs 23:9 |
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Reply #10 posted 07/21/10 10:10am
thebanishedone |
robinhood said: i respect his work as a poet/lyricist, but i cant take him seriously any more.
i dont believe him on this record. i appreciate he has a quasi childlike approach to his lyrical content
but the sincerity is lacking.
i dont mind if his lyrics arent super cool coded messages or deep and meaningful or basic straight ahead literal prose..
it just feels like he's in some alternate universe where every emotion is a put-on.
that over-all feeling comes through in the lyrics and the way he sings them.
wow sincerity is the right word
it's the thing his music is lacking
remember before:
Bambi i know what you need,maybe you need to bleed
or
Safe sex used to mean no babies,
and of course used to mean fun,now days if i had 15 ladies i would only fuck with one |
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Reply #11 posted 07/21/10 10:11am
thebanishedone |
robinhood said: i respect his work as a poet/lyricist, but i cant take him seriously any more.
i dont believe him on this record. i appreciate he has a quasi childlike approach to his lyrical content
but the sincerity is lacking.
i dont mind if his lyrics arent super cool coded messages or deep and meaningful or basic straight ahead literal prose..
it just feels like he's in some alternate universe where every emotion is a put-on.
that over-all feeling comes through in the lyrics and the way he sings them.
wow sincerity is the right word
it's the thing his music is lacking
remember before:
Bambi i know what you need,maybe you need to bleed
or
Safe sex used to mean no babies,
and of course used to mean fun,now days if i had 15 ladies i would only fuck with one |
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Reply #12 posted 07/21/10 10:28am
XxAxX |
mayrain said:
andykeen said:
"Never mind the birdfeed honey, just tell me your name"
I really don't think it's birdfeed. I think he says "Never mind the bird behind me, just tell me your name." I think when he says "bird" he means woman I could be wrong. That is the only way that makes sense to me.
did someone say.... bird? |
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Reply #13 posted 07/21/10 10:35am
funksterr |
NeoGeo24bit said:
Lavaux is probably the most honest and well written song he's done in many years. So what if he doesn't want to pay any taxes? Who the hell does?
I don't care if he wasnt to pay his taxes or not. I just don't want to hear a song about it. Musically it's an "A", lyrically it's an "F". Average it out and for me the song is a "C". Another self-indulgent so-so song. |
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Reply #14 posted 07/21/10 10:40am
paisleypark4 |
funksterr said:
NeoGeo24bit said:
Lavaux is probably the most honest and well written song he's done in many years. So what if he doesn't want to pay any taxes? Who the hell does?
I don't care if he wasnt to pay his taxes or not. I just don't want to hear a song about it. Musically it's an "A", lyrically it's an "F". Average it out and for me the song is a "C". Another self-indulgent so-so song.
What is the difference between Taxman and Act Of God in lyrical subject!?!? Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Reply #15 posted 07/21/10 10:53am
billymeade
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paisleypark4 said:
funksterr said:
I don't care if he wasnt to pay his taxes or not. I just don't want to hear a song about it. Musically it's an "A", lyrically it's an "F". Average it out and for me the song is a "C". Another self-indulgent so-so song.
What is the difference between Taxman and Act Of God in lyrical subject!?!?
? I'm not sure anyone mentioned Taxman... which was also self-indulgent, but at least had some classic George Harrison wit in it. |
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Reply #16 posted 07/21/10 11:00am
paisleypark4 |
billymeade said:
paisleypark4 said:
What is the difference between Taxman and Act Of God in lyrical subject!?!?
? I'm not sure anyone mentioned Taxman... which was also self-indulgent, but at least had some classic George Harrison wit in it.
Well they want to sit here and talk ish about Prince talking about taxes..(which I love) but not say anything to compare what he is saying to what the beatles said in taxman..its the same thing Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Reply #17 posted 07/21/10 11:10am
funksterr |
paisleypark4 said:
funksterr said:
I don't care if he wasnt to pay his taxes or not. I just don't want to hear a song about it. Musically it's an "A", lyrically it's an "F". Average it out and for me the song is a "C". Another self-indulgent so-so song.
What is the difference between Taxman and Act Of God in lyrical subject!?!?
Some similarities sure, but so what? He still looks like a rich prick for bragging about making a million dollars but having to pay the higher tax rate. How is his personal income tax rate connected to the subprime mortgage crisis? Answer it's not. And he sounds ridiculous for, feigning The Staples Singers civil rights era song style, and attempting to say that it does.
This article may have inspired Prince, who knows:
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/01/15/financial-meltdown-act-of-god-or-just-the-ungodly-acts-of-bank/ |
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Reply #18 posted 07/21/10 11:12am
NeoGeo24bit |
funksterr said:
NeoGeo24bit said:
Lavaux is probably the most honest and well written song he's done in many years. So what if he doesn't want to pay any taxes? Who the hell does?
I don't care if he wasnt to pay his taxes or not. I just don't want to hear a song about it. Musically it's an "A", lyrically it's an "F". Average it out and for me the song is a "C". Another self-indulgent so-so song.
Wait... you're calling a Prince song self indulgent (ok) and then saying you don't want to hear him sing about those topics? Who is the one being self indulgent? Him or you? LOL.
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Reply #19 posted 07/21/10 11:21am
funksterr |
NeoGeo24bit said:
funksterr said:
I don't care if he wasnt to pay his taxes or not. I just don't want to hear a song about it. Musically it's an "A", lyrically it's an "F". Average it out and for me the song is a "C". Another self-indulgent so-so song.
Wait... you're calling a Prince song self indulgent (ok) and then saying you don't want to hear him sing about those topics? Who is the one being self indulgent? Him or you? LOL.
Let's not get it twisted, I'm the customer, pal. Prince doesn't put cash in my pocket, I put it in his if he offers me something of value TO ME. There is a reason why P is down to giving this sht away. |
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Reply #20 posted 07/21/10 11:30am
billymeade
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paisleypark4 said:
billymeade said:
? I'm not sure anyone mentioned Taxman... which was also self-indulgent, but at least had some classic George Harrison wit in it.
Well they want to sit here and talk ish about Prince talking about taxes..(which I love) but not say anything to compare what he is saying to what the beatles said in taxman..its the same thing
There's no need to compare "Act of God" to a Beatles song at all; Also, "Act of God" is NOT the same subject as Taxman. They both contain the word "tax", that's where the similarity ends.
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Reply #21 posted 07/21/10 11:31am
PicklesMcMilla n |
lyrics are not hitting pickles with feeling
pickles doesn't get a sensation when reading the lyrics
music is good
but pickles says the lyrics are just hollow |
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Reply #22 posted 07/21/10 11:32am
NeoGeo24bit |
funksterr said:
NeoGeo24bit said:
Wait... you're calling a Prince song self indulgent (ok) and then saying you don't want to hear him sing about those topics? Who is the one being self indulgent? Him or you? LOL.
Let's not get it twisted, I'm the customer, pal. Prince doesn't put cash in my pocket, I put it in his if he offers me something of value TO ME. There is a reason why P is down to giving this sht away.
Prince isn't giving anything away. The Daily Mail paid him for the album. I have to laugh when people say it's "free". He already got paid! |
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Reply #23 posted 07/21/10 12:19pm
paisleypark4 |
funksterr said:
paisleypark4 said:
What is the difference between Taxman and Act Of God in lyrical subject!?!?
Some similarities sure, but so what? He still looks like a rich prick for bragging about making a million dollars but having to pay the higher tax rate. How is his personal income tax rate connected to the subprime mortgage crisis? Answer it's not. And he sounds ridiculous for, feigning The Staples Singers civil rights era song style, and attempting to say that it does.
This article may have inspired Prince, who knows:
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/01/15/financial-meltdown-act-of-god-or-just-the-ungodly-acts-of-bank/
So he is not supposed to speak for people who are actually going through stuff in the world today? Is there any difference when he talked about the topics in Sign O The Times even though he was a millionare then? I guess we just supposed to hear about all his fancy women cash clothes and cars...
Last he never connected his income tax to the mortgage crisis..he compared himself doing his tours .... seperate verses different matter; and you tired to connect the two? [Edited 7/21/10 12:19pm] Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Reply #24 posted 07/21/10 12:29pm
Purpracer2 |
Love the music, Love the lyrics, Love it all.... oh, my... an opinion. |
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Reply #25 posted 07/21/10 1:14pm
paisleypark4 |
billymeade said:
paisleypark4 said:
Well they want to sit here and talk ish about Prince talking about taxes..(which I love) but not say anything to compare what he is saying to what the beatles said in taxman..its the same thing
There's no need to compare "Act of God" to a Beatles song at all; Also, "Act of God" is NOT the same subject as Taxman. They both contain the word "tax", that's where the similarity ends.
no it doesnt
Let me tell you how it will be; There's one for you, nineteen for me. 'Cause I’m the taxman, Yeah, I’m the taxman.
Should five per cent appear too small, Be thankful I don't take it all. 'Cause I’m the taxman, Yeah, I’m the taxman.
not too far off Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Reply #26 posted 07/21/10 1:57pm
billymeade
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mayrain said:
andykeen said:
"Never mind the birdfeed honey, just tell me your name"
I really don't think it's birdfeed. I think he says "Never mind the bird behind me, just tell me your name." I think when he says "bird" he means woman I could be wrong. That is the only way that makes sense to me.
andykeen is correct |
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Reply #27 posted 07/21/10 4:50pm
yogamoma88 |
funksterr said:
NeoGeo24bit said:
Lavaux is probably the most honest and well written song he's done in many years. So what if he doesn't want to pay any taxes? Who the hell does?
I don't care if he wasnt to pay his taxes or not. I just don't want to hear a song about it. Musically it's an "A", lyrically it's an "F". Average it out and for me the song is a "C". Another self-indulgent so-so song.
I think the point is more that he has to give up the money he earned to pay for stuff like bombs and has no choice in the matter, just like everyone else. Seems important enough to sing about to me. LOVE IS THE ONLY WAY |
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Reply #29 posted 07/21/10 6:39pm
Astasheiks
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2freaky4church1 said:
There some of his best lyrics in years. Any hate is pure ignorance.
The Purple Yoda has his head on straight.
Tell'em 2freaky4church!!!! |
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