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Reply #30 posted 08/10/10 6:27pm

sexyfunkystran
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Im actually curious as to why Prince really used the Linndrum at all.

He didnt program it the same way at all. He didnt use any of the signature accents he is known for, anywhere on the album.

Unlike say, Justin Timberlake, who used that approach on his "Until The End Of Time" song.

So to the untrained ear, you wouldnt necessarily tell it even was the famous Linndrum on Prince's album.

So what was the point?

[Edited 8/10/10 18:31pm]

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Reply #31 posted 08/10/10 6:41pm

ThreadBare

It's all right. But, it's no "Dorothy Parker..." lol

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Reply #32 posted 08/11/10 8:37am

abigail05

polkadotbliss said:

and...............

stop recording at PP-go back to the basement and sunset sound

wink

YES!

Paisley is the worst thing that ever happened to his sound. Too much freedom can be its own prison.

I do love the new music with the Linn though. Don't overthink it people, just enjoy.

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Reply #33 posted 08/11/10 8:53am

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sexyfunkystrange said:

Im actually curious as to why Prince really used the Linndrum at all.

He didnt program it the same way at all. He didnt use any of the signature accents he is known for, anywhere on the album.

Unlike say, Justin Timberlake, who used that approach on his "Until The End Of Time" song.

So to the untrained ear, you wouldnt necessarily tell it even was the famous Linndrum on Prince's album.

So what was the point?

[Edited 8/10/10 18:31pm]

I know wikipedia isn't the most reliable of sources since it can be edited by virtually anyone,but I read on there that the drums in this song were actually sampled from "Raspberry Beret". Can anyone confirm or deny this?

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Reply #34 posted 08/11/10 10:23am

DecaturStone

I think he is using the Linn drumm samples that come in the "drum machine" folder of the 'Reason' rather than the LinnDrumm itself. They sound like the sound bank I have actually
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Reply #35 posted 08/11/10 10:44am

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I love it. Although I agree its not quite like what it use to be, but very close. Alot better than MPLSound which sounded more sampled to me as well as sounding like he just threw them on the tracks.

I agree, I love it on 20Ten, a lot more loose and playful, vs MPLSound which had no energy to it, it felt like the same beat on each song

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Reply #36 posted 08/12/10 2:24pm

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It sounds natural and not forced. Like not using it just for the sake of attempting to sound vintage.

Co-sign ...

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Reply #37 posted 08/12/10 7:06pm

moderndaysaint

These days, I think that the Linndrum weakens the sound of his music. Nowadays I most enjoy P songs that use real drums. In 2010 (pun intended), I listen to Kanye West if I want to hear drum machines used masterfully like P in his heyday.

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Reply #38 posted 08/12/10 8:11pm

Timmy84

sexyfunkystrange said:

Im actually curious as to why Prince really used the Linndrum at all.

He didnt program it the same way at all. He didnt use any of the signature accents he is known for, anywhere on the album.

Unlike say, Justin Timberlake, who used that approach on his "Until The End Of Time" song.

So to the untrained ear, you wouldnt necessarily tell it even was the famous Linndrum on Prince's album.

So what was the point?

[Edited 8/10/10 18:31pm]

Prince's Linndrums still sound better than this clown's.

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Reply #39 posted 08/13/10 1:04am

SoulAlive

xlr8r said:

It sounds natural and not forced. Like not using it just for the sake of attempting to sound vintage like he did with Rave. And it works. I like it.

I agree.

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Reply #40 posted 08/13/10 1:47am

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RPR said:

After the golden era, Prince ditched the Linn and took up the grooves with different electronic instruments.

I actually dug what he started doing post Linn.

Here are some of the standouts for me.

On "The Future" from the Batman soundtrack, he employed his same badass groove theory with whatever the fuck he used to create that awesome clickity, clickity percussive groundwork that forms the basis of this track. In the 80's that would have been done with the Linn.

"101" Same here, the percussive basis for this funk masterpiece would have employed a Linn in the 80's but instead of the linn, still creates equally badass grooves with a different instrument altogether instead.

"Pheromone" To this day, I say the electronic percussive groove that forms the basis of this painfully underrated masterpiece is on par with the best he was able to create with the Linn.

This groove still boggles my mind at the sheer imaginative and delicious funk genius of it!

"I Wish You Heaven- Pts. One Two and Three" He ushered in the modern beat groove only to abandon it. "Take this beat I dont care, I got plenty others that are sooo fine" I believed it too! Too bad he really didn't.

"Bob George" Droned out thuds instead of the synthetic snapy electro linn drums. This was so not of the ordinary in 87, people forget how revolutionary this was in 87. The thud beat blew me away when I first heard it, so funky and so simple in a way no one had done before. This slice of this genius even made it into a Madonna remix of " Like A Prayer" that I heard on the radio in 87 but have never heard again since.

And lets not forget the daddy of all post Linn genius......"Sign O' The Times"

My point is, it was not the Linn itself, It was something inside his noggin. It was just sheer genius.

He was still able to create amazing percussive grooves sans the Linn. Whatever happened to him in the 90's he was never able to muster this talent again.

NOTHING that was lazily slapped onto 20ten or Mplsound with the Linn, sounds even remotely as interesting to me as his weakest 80's tracks.


[Edited 8/10/10 19:53pm]

Bob George = Linn

You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #41 posted 08/13/10 2:26am

squirrelgrease

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RPR said:

After the golden era, Prince ditched the Linn and took up the grooves with different electronic instruments.

I actually dug what he started doing post Linn.

Here are some of the standouts for me.

On "The Future" from the Batman soundtrack, he employed his same badass groove theory with whatever the fuck he used to create that awesome clickity, clickity percussive groundwork that forms the basis of this track. In the 80's that would have been done with the Linn.

"101" Same here, the percussive basis for this funk masterpiece would have employed a Linn in the 80's but instead of the linn, still creates equally badass grooves with a different instrument altogether instead.

"Pheromone" To this day, I say the electronic percussive groove that forms the basis of this painfully underrated masterpiece is on par with the best he was able to create with the Linn.

This groove still boggles my mind at the sheer imaginative and delicious funk genius of it!

"I Wish You Heaven- Pts. One Two and Three" He ushered in the modern beat groove only to abandon it. "Take this beat I dont care, I got plenty others that are sooo fine" I believed it too! Too bad he really didn't.

"Bob George" Droned out thuds instead of the synthetic snapy electro linn drums. This was so not of the ordinary in 87, people forget how revolutionary this was in 87. The thud beat blew me away when I first heard it, so funky and so simple in a way no one had done before. This slice of this genius even made it into a Madonna remix of " Like A Prayer" that I heard on the radio in 87 but have never heard again since.

And lets not forget the daddy of all post Linn genius......"Sign O' The Times"

My point is, it was not the Linn itself, It was something inside his noggin. It was just sheer genius.

He was still able to create amazing percussive grooves sans the Linn. Whatever happened to him in the 90's he was never able to muster this talent again.

NOTHING that was lazily slapped onto 20ten or Mplsound with the Linn, sounds even remotely as interesting to me as his weakest 80's tracks.


[Edited 8/10/10 19:53pm]

Great post.

If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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