@ Nelson,

Nah that disgusting thing is broken to pieces & thrown in the dumpster, in case you failed to notice.

It was a commandment from God Jehovah The Most High, who was indeed displeased ...

Couldn't let such crap stick around. But enjoy your devil-worship, & feed-offs...

(I am HAPPY I never have to hear it EVER again)

NelsonR said:

harsh

i find it interesting that there are Prince "fans" that refer to his music as trash

but, there is no two ways about it...

Elixer is beautifully mastered and a masterpiece for those who approach it

from a musical point of view

Do you find it interesting that a Prince fan calls his music trash, or that a Prince fan has a mind of their own and calls trash as such when they hear it?

There is two ways about it. It's trash. Masterpiece? Yeah ok, go listen to Marvin Gaye's What's Going On?, and listen to not only what he's saying, but what is happening in the course of the 35 minute record. Find out how that record changed the world, and how quickly people still think 99 cents for the Lotusfuck3r set is still too expensive for a lot of FANS here. I'm a musician, so yeah, I approach most every CD from a "musical point of view" (as if there's another way, even as a non-musician to listen to it?). It's garbage, forgettable, and another banal vanity project, as Spinlight stated.

ernestsewell said:

NelsonR said:

Do you find it interesting that a Prince fan calls his music trash, or that a Prince fan has a mind of their own and calls trash as such when they hear it?

There is two ways about it. It's trash. Masterpiece? Yeah ok, go listen to Marvin Gaye's What's Going On?, and listen to not only what he's saying, but what is happening in the course of the 35 minute record. Find out how that record changed the world, and how quickly people still think 99 cents for the Lotusfuck3r set is still too expensive for a lot of FANS here. I'm a musician, so yeah, I approach most every CD from a "musical point of view" (as if there's another way, even as a non-musician to listen to it?). It's garbage, forgettable, and another banal vanity project, as Spinlight stated.

I love the music and I love when a woman sings R&B or Soul songs. I wouldn't put her up there with Sade' but, it was a good attempt and Soul Slow Jams ...

Never listened to 'Elixer' and don't suppose i will, unless somebody tells me diamonds will fly out of my arse if i do, then i might. But i doubt it.

Another 80's thing he did better - Associated artists.

ernestsewell said:

NelsonR said:

harsh

i find it interesting that there are Prince "fans" that refer to his music as trash

but, there is no two ways about it...

Elixer is beautifully mastered and a masterpiece for those who approach it

from a musical point of view

Do you find it interesting that a Prince fan calls his music trash, or that a Prince fan has a mind of their own and calls trash as such when they hear it?

There is two ways about it. It's trash. Masterpiece? Yeah ok, go listen to Marvin Gaye's What's Going On?, and listen to not only what he's saying, but what is happening in the course of the 35 minute record. Find out how that record changed the world, and how quickly people still think 99 cents for the Lotusfuck3r set is still too expensive for a lot of FANS here. I'm a musician, so yeah, I approach most every CD from a "musical point of view" (as if there's another way, even as a non-musician to listen to it?). It's garbage, forgettable, and another banal vanity project, as Spinlight stated.

It's better then Sade's album

Alamine said:

It's better then Sade's album

Better thAn, and no it's not.

i've only heard snippets. sounded like heroin. not a good thing.

i only support artists who have earned their place and/or have actual talent worthy of supporting.

i've read some of the lyrics though. they mostly bored me, but some made me laugh:

"aint no drugs up in here" < she's lyin.

but i'm sure prince's production is good, despite his poor choice of vocalists.

NelsonR said:

I'm usually shy to start new posts here and just re-act to y'alls, but I must say that Elixer is highly under-rated.

I take it from this point:

• at the org lots of ambivalence towards Bria generally
• DAMN...Bria's voice sounds good
• the music remember when Prince was dissed 4 flirting w/ jazz...this is precision

Perhaps the media disses Prince 2 quickly coz of his emotional relationship w/ some "proteges"...but, Bria has a beautiful voice, and Prince worked this one intelligently to say the least (as an expression).

It's crisp.

Not so convinced about Bria's voice sounding "so good"... it's ok, sexy, but nothing special. But in general I agree with the sentiment. I think the Elixer album is great and easily one of his most overlooked associated artist projects. The final two tracks are stunning in every sense of the word, and I really like all the other songs (with the exception of "2nite", which is average to me).

In my opinion, the song Elixer is kind of like the the caliber of "You should have kept that one and released it on your album" like the song "101"

The song Elixer is fucking cool. And the moment when they both go on each speaker at the same time is great.

thedance said:

wow cool.. someone who likes this album..?

I still haven't listened to my Elixer CD......

I expect it to be really bad.

I've never listened to either, scared to. The album cover alone put me off, i cringe when i look at it

incredibly underrated album. A couple songs are weak but tracks like everytime, elixir and immersion are some of the best material prince has produced in the past decade. All of those songs, if his voice were on it, would've been leaps and bound better than 20ten, which was ok at best.

ernestsewell said:

NelsonR said:

harsh

i find it interesting that there are Prince "fans" that refer to his music as trash

but, there is no two ways about it...

Elixer is beautifully mastered and a masterpiece for those who approach it

from a musical point of view

Do you find it interesting that a Prince fan calls his music trash, or that a Prince fan has a mind of their own and calls trash as such when they hear it?

There is two ways about it. It's trash. Masterpiece? Yeah ok, go listen to Marvin Gaye's What's Going On?, and listen to not only what he's saying, but what is happening in the course of the 35 minute record. Find out how that record changed the world, and how quickly people still think 99 cents for the Lotusfuck3r set is still too expensive for a lot of FANS here. I'm a musician, so yeah, I approach most every CD from a "musical point of view" (as if there's another way, even as a non-musician to listen to it?). It's garbage, forgettable, and another banal vanity project, as Spinlight stated.

i find it interesting that any person who views their self as a fan of a person, is still able to call his music trash...actually laughable.

trash is such a derogatory word, & 2 me demonstrates the symbolic level of seriousness that we should even take such name-calling. it becomes even more shallow when there is simply name-callling, without actually reflecting on the music being dissed

as for Elixer, it has become one of my fav "protege" releases. i find the music to be highly skilled, and the production techniques to be well connected.

i think in terms of producing via the genre of jazz predominantly, this is a huge success, and demonstrates Prince's multiple skills as a musician, but also producer.

it is also an inspiration to musicians who are interested in doing their own thing, with little concern for what the "industry" deems acceptable on the air waves.

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[Edited 8/7/10 3:39am]

I think it is way better than some people seem to (want to) realise on here. The production and arrangement is top notch, so is the song-writing. The title track is one of the best he did in the last 10 years.

Love this album, & strange that there are people here trashing it & saying that they haven't even heard it??!! i mean, how can u b a Prince fan & not want 2 know how it sounds?? I guess because its basically smooth jazz-like & not hard rock or hard funk a lot of u pretentious types choose 2 dismiss it. And anyone who can't appreciate the song 'Elixir', just can't b in2 Prince; thats just one helluva sexy love song....btw, I hav 2 say, & i know i'm in a minority here, but Marvins 'Whats Goin On' has 2 b one of the most overrated albums eva; there r only 5 original songs there & the rest of it is just a torturous lengthy reworking of one of those songs, its like he just opened up a thesaurus & read thru every word to do wiv the ebviroment. Cheese!

Elixer

Another Boy

Home

All This Love

Immersion are really good songs, I would have love to hear him do them himself in the studio..

ernestsewell said:

Alamine said:

It's better then Sade's album

Better thAn, and no it's not.

NelsonR said:

ernestsewell said:

Do you find it interesting that a Prince fan calls his music trash, or that a Prince fan has a mind of their own and calls trash as such when they hear it?

There is two ways about it. It's trash. Masterpiece? Yeah ok, go listen to Marvin Gaye's What's Going On?, and listen to not only what he's saying, but what is happening in the course of the 35 minute record. Find out how that record changed the world, and how quickly people still think 99 cents for the Lotusfuck3r set is still too expensive for a lot of FANS here. I'm a musician, so yeah, I approach most every CD from a "musical point of view" (as if there's another way, even as a non-musician to listen to it?). It's garbage, forgettable, and another banal vanity project, as Spinlight stated.

i find it interesting that any person who views their self as a fan of a person, is still able to call his music trash...actually laughable.

trash is such a derogatory word, & 2 me demonstrates the symbolic level of seriousness that we should even take such name-calling. it becomes even more shallow when there is simply name-callling, without actually reflecting on the music being dissed

as for Elixer, it has become one of my fav "protege" releases. i find the music to be highly skilled, and the production techniques to be well connected.

i think in terms of producing via the genre of jazz predominantly, this is a huge success, and demonstrates Prince's multiple skills as a musician, but also producer.

it is also an inspiration to musicians who are interested in doing their own thing, with little concern for what the "industry" deems acceptable on the air waves.

[Edited 8/7/10 3:27am]

[Edited 8/7/10 3:39am]

The only thing it's capable of giving is a first-class-ear-infection...and a really nasty one at that.

While you ramble on on, it reminds me I have a flat-screen tv for sale.... diamond-coated & gold-mounted.

[Edited 8/7/10 6:30am]

Dave1992 said:

I think it is way better than some people seem to (want to) realise on here. The production and arrangement is top notch, so is the song-writing. The title track is one of the best he did in the last 10 years.

Really?

macadamia said:

The only thing it's capable of giving is a first-class-ear-infection...and a really nasty one at that.

speaking of ear infections, mine are starting to hurt, not from Prince's production techniques, but from the manner in which some choose to speak about the work of a prolific musical genius

sure, the over-all 'vibe' of Elixer oozes of snake, or at the very least a heroin addiction, but that's more to do with the chemistry created between Prince & Bria, than Prince alone

seems to me ur main problem is with Ms Valente, join the long list of women who share the same sentiment, but everyone with half an ounce of gray matter knows, that Prince's women are reflections of parts of himself

another thread mentions the edomites, serpentine creatures who are bitter enemies of the 'righteous ones'. here's a picture to clarify:

this is one of Prince's 'creations', a certain image he holds in his mind of 'woman' as she relates to the reptilian aspect of his nature

ELIXER is not the cup of tea for most because of the subconscious effect it has upon the listener, but it should be duly noted that this has less to do with Prince's musicianship,

and more to do with the energy conjured up between himself and his serpentine mental projection: Bria Valente

Brenda Fuentes on the other hand, still does exist, although not nearly as much as the alter-ego she has willingly allowed to take over her soul

ELIXER is for the most part, a representation of two toxic forces coming together, under the guise of love, and projecting a vain synthetic insincere and highly desperate work of utter fiction

once again, this is not about Prince's production techniques, but what happens when he allows his serpentine aspect to dominate the better part of his nature... ELIXER is the result

from their 'friendship', to their music, to the failure of lotusflow3r.com...

nothing real can be threatened, nothing unreal exists.

catpark said:

Dave1992 said:

I think it is way better than some people seem to (want to) realise on here. The production and arrangement is top notch, so is the song-writing. The title track is one of the best he did in the last 10 years.

Really?

In my opinion, of course. I'm certainly not a fam, but I'm also not one of the blindfolded nay-sayers. I gave it a couple of listens and understood was he was aiming for. I really do like it

Dave1992 said:

catpark said:

Really?

In my opinion, of course. I'm certainly not a fam, but I'm also not one of the blindfolded nay-sayers. I gave it a couple of listens and understood was he was aiming for. I really do like it

The title track is greater then many tracks Prince kept for his own albums. He should have kept this one, it's really great.

robinhood said:

macadamia said:

The only thing it's capable of giving is a first-class-ear-infection...and a really nasty one at that.

speaking of ear infections, mine are starting to hurt, not from Prince's production techniques, but from the manner in which some choose to speak about the work of a prolific musical genius

sure, the over-all 'vibe' of Elixer oozes of snake, or at the very least a heroin addiction, but that's more to do with the chemistry created between Prince & Bria, than Prince alone

seems to me ur main problem is with Ms Valente, join the long list of women who share the same sentiment, but everyone with half an ounce of gray matter knows, that Prince's women are reflections of parts of himself

another thread mentions the edomites, serpentine creatures who are bitter enemies of the 'righteous ones'. here's a picture to clarify:

this is one of Prince's 'creations', a certain image he holds in his mind of 'woman' as she relates to the reptilian aspect of his nature

ELIXER is not the cup of tea for most because of the subconscious effect it has upon the listener, but it should be duly noted that this has less to do with Prince's musicianship,

and more to do with the energy conjured up between himself and his serpentine mental projection: Bria Valente

Brenda Fuentes on the other hand, still does exist, although not nearly as much as the alter-ego she has willingly allowed to take over her soul

ELIXER is for the most part, a representation of two toxic forces coming together, under the guise of love, and projecting a vain synthetic insincere and highly desperate work of utter fiction

once again, this is not about Prince's production techniques, but what happens when he allows his serpentine aspect to dominate the better part of his nature... ELIXER is the result

from their 'friendship', to their music, to the failure of lotusflow3r.com...

nothing real can be threatened, nothing unreal exists.

when i 1st saw ur post, i thought some1 might engage the thread on

the actual music.

by the way i disagree w/ your perspective of "desperate work of fiction,"

but see the collective, if i have to, as

embodying healing...love, even at the intersection of body and soul

for example, the track 'immersion' is mystical to say the least. the

piano is gentle, equally walking up/down the scales as is Bria's voice

if i am not mistaken, i think i hear an acoustic guitar in there as well

"into the new world, into the new world"

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I didn't like the elixer album at first. Really not. Thought of it as extremely boring and useless. Yesterday I listend to it and I wasn't completely against it. The songs on it are cool. It's a lack here and there at the lyrics or the background music and of course B's voice is not strong as many other but it isn't a completely bad album. I mean why can somebody really hate this couple of songs? B's voice is not wow but it is not horribly trashy! I don't wanna listen to it everyday because it soon can get real boring with it but I like here I come and kept woman for real.

NelsonR said:

I'm usually shy to start new posts here and just re-act to y'alls, but I must say that Elixer is highly under-rated.

I take it from this point:

• at the org lots of ambivalence towards Bria generally
• DAMN...Bria's voice sounds good
• the music remember when Prince was dissed 4 flirting w/ jazz...this is precision

Perhaps the media disses Prince 2 quickly coz of his emotional relationship w/ some "proteges"...but, Bria has a beautiful voice, and Prince worked this one intelligently to say the least (as an expression).

It's crisp.

Dude. Bria CANNOT SING. Have you heard the record? That music overpowers her so much that it sounds like we are hearing music in one room and she is singing from under a blanket in another. Someone paid you off.

"DAMN... Bria's voice sounds good."

Spanky said:

NelsonR said:

I'm usually shy to start new posts here and just re-act to y'alls, but I must say that Elixer is highly under-rated.

I take it from this point:

• at the org lots of ambivalence towards Bria generally
• DAMN...Bria's voice sounds good
• the music remember when Prince was dissed 4 flirting w/ jazz...this is precision

Perhaps the media disses Prince 2 quickly coz of his emotional relationship w/ some "proteges"...but, Bria has a beautiful voice, and Prince worked this one intelligently to say the least (as an expression).

It's crisp.

Dude. Bria CANNOT SING. Have you heard the record? That music overpowers her so much that it sounds like we are hearing music in one room and she is singing from under a blanket in another. Someone paid you off.

"DAMN... Bria's voice sounds good."

that's my 1 gripe with Prince's production of other vocalists.

like you rightly pointed out, the volume on the voice is too

low...he has done this w/ guests on some of his own tracks, where

u find yourself thinking, i wish that were just louder.

but bria has a beautiful voice to me, and I can imagine her

singing beautiful songs 2 Prince when they are alone

oooooo!

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Dude the track is just glorified elevator music.

JesusFreak said:

Dude the track is just glorified elevator music.

macadamia said:

JesusFreak said:

Dude the track is just glorified elevator music.

Bira sings just as distustingly as he looks one word : eeeeeeeeewwwwww