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Thread started 01/26/03 11:01pm

Phill

Old question about Pop Life

I consider myself pretty schooled when it comes to useless prince trivia stuff, but one thing I never heard or asked about is- what is that break in Pop Life, it always sounded like a boxing match to me. I heard that is was when he was boo-ed off the stage when he opened up for the stones but someone dismissed that-Anyone?
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Reply #1 posted 01/26/03 11:19pm

lovebizzare

I always thought it was when he got booed off stage, I'll go listen to it again.
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Reply #2 posted 01/26/03 11:31pm

pejman

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Interesting...and all these years i thought it was a basket ball game...
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Reply #3 posted 01/26/03 11:35pm

lovebizzare

yep, just listened to it, I'm pretty sure it's when he got booed off stage.
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Reply #4 posted 01/26/03 11:41pm

Wolf

Where do you guys get this from? It's not him being booed from anywhere, you can get crowd noise from somewhere to put on your recording easily.
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Reply #5 posted 01/26/03 11:50pm

NuPwrSoul

Wolf said:

Where do you guys get this from? It's not him being booed from anywhere, you can get crowd noise from somewhere to put on your recording easily.


I remember reading from a band member that it was a reference to when he got booed off the stage when he opened up for the Rolling Stones. If not an exact recording from that incident, it's a re-enactment.

You can definitely hear someone saying "throw the bum out."
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Reply #6 posted 01/26/03 11:55pm

lovebizzare

Wolf said:

Where do you guys get this from? It's not him being booed from anywhere, you can get crowd noise from somewhere to put on your recording easily.


I meant that it symbolizes that, a renactment.
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Reply #7 posted 01/26/03 11:56pm

Wolf

NuPwrSoul said:

Wolf said:

Where do you guys get this from? It's not him being booed from anywhere, you can get crowd noise from somewhere to put on your recording easily.


I remember reading from a band member that it was a reference to when he got booed off the stage when he opened up for the Rolling Stones. If not an exact recording from that incident, it's a re-enactment.

You can definitely hear someone saying "throw the bum out."


I dont think Prince would put something as humiliating as that on his own record. This is Prince were talking about, his pride and ego will only take so much from other people so I don't think he's going to do that. and that experience for him was still fresh basically 4 or 5 years after that happened. Someone is going to have to prove it for me to believe it's true.
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Reply #8 posted 01/27/03 12:03am

lovebizzare

Wolf said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Wolf said:

Where do you guys get this from? It's not him being booed from anywhere, you can get crowd noise from somewhere to put on your recording easily.


I remember reading from a band member that it was a reference to when he got booed off the stage when he opened up for the Rolling Stones. If not an exact recording from that incident, it's a re-enactment.

You can definitely hear someone saying "throw the bum out."


I dont think Prince would put something as humiliating as that on his own record. This is Prince were talking about, his pride and ego will only take so much from other people so I don't think he's going to do that. and that experience for him was still fresh basically 4 or 5 years after that happened. Someone is going to have to prove it for me to believe it's true.


Yeah, he would, think about it, he was making fun of it, showing that it didn't phase him (though it really did).
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Reply #9 posted 01/27/03 12:23am

NuPwrSoul

Wolf said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Wolf said:

Where do you guys get this from? It's not him being booed from anywhere, you can get crowd noise from somewhere to put on your recording easily.


I remember reading from a band member that it was a reference to when he got booed off the stage when he opened up for the Rolling Stones. If not an exact recording from that incident, it's a re-enactment.

You can definitely hear someone saying "throw the bum out."


I dont think Prince would put something as humiliating as that on his own record. This is Prince were talking about, his pride and ego will only take so much from other people so I don't think he's going to do that. and that experience for him was still fresh basically 4 or 5 years after that happened. Someone is going to have to prove it for me to believe it's true.


Lovebizzare is right. He would in fact put it on record as a kind of comeuppance. "Yeah yall may have booed me off the stage a few years ago, but look at me now!" It adds an ironic twist to the song which is about the pitfalls of popstardom.
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Reply #10 posted 01/27/03 3:17am

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I don't know why, but I always thought it was recorded at a circus, probably the same day they recorded the opening to Merci For The Speed on Shelia E's Romance 1600 album. It sounds like an announcer saying "Roll 'em on out" to me. I can't remember any booing, but I'll go have another listen for yous.
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Reply #11 posted 01/27/03 3:41am

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I can remember that someone emailed this question to Prince some time ago, kind of an "Ask Prince" session! Anyway, somebody emailed him that they were wonderind what the noise in Pop Life was or what it meant - Prince's reply was "I have been wondering the same thing!"
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Reply #12 posted 01/27/03 7:27am

Wolf

Nah. It goes against the very thing Prince will tolerate.
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Reply #13 posted 01/27/03 7:44am

IAM

the crowd noise is from the concert prince opened up for the rolling stones and got booed off the stage.i'm lookin for the article that he says why he put that in there. i beleive it was one of the rolling stone interviews. he was describing the situation and how they threw food at him and how upset he was that he couldn't finish his set. i'll find it and post it. it's definitely from that concert.
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Reply #14 posted 01/27/03 7:45am

sawatdiikhrap

Funny. I'd never seen anything about this before and never really thought about it. I just thought it was fairground noise or something.
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Reply #15 posted 01/27/03 7:49am

Anji

sawatdiikhrap said:

Funny. I'd never seen anything about this before and never really thought about it. I just thought it was fairground noise or something.


Same here. I just thought it was one of those rides from the front cover of the album. lol
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Reply #16 posted 01/27/03 9:23am

NPGMCsucks

If it were just generic crowd noise it would still make sense within the context of the song. It doesnt necesarily have to be the time when he got booed off stage.
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Reply #17 posted 01/27/03 9:33am

UptownDeb

I've always thought it sounded like a carnival.
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Reply #18 posted 01/27/03 11:29am

BinaryJustin

Weird. I always thought it was a train station waiting to take people away - you know with the metaphor of "The Ladder" all the way through the album? Well, I thought it was like a Purple Train taking people to Heaven or something. Ugh. I'm so thick.
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Reply #19 posted 01/27/03 11:48am

NuPwrSoul

NuPwrSoul said:

You can definitely hear someone saying "throw the bum out."


Just double checked this. It's at 3:10 of the album version.
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Reply #20 posted 01/27/03 12:06pm

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the crowd noise that you hear is called something like "angry crowd" which is generic stock footage from the BBC sound effects library, they have a bunch of cd volumes out there--very very thorough ones i may add. i have one of them called "babies"--nothing but like 50 minutes of babies crying, laughing, cooing, you name it.

i always thought that he inserted the crowd noise into the section of that song in order to delete the lyrics "everybody wants to get high, but you don't see no one standing in line to say bye-bye that's pop life"--maybe he thought it sounded like he was advocating drug use and decided against that, so instead of trying to edit it out, why not just paste something "psychedelic" or odd to cover it up, know what i'm saying? something to make the listener go "what the f**k?"


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Reply #21 posted 01/27/03 12:19pm

NuPwrSoul

GeneMohawk said:

the crowd noise that you hear is called something like "angry crowd" which is generic stock footage from the BBC sound effects library, they have a bunch of cd volumes out there--very very thorough ones i may add. i have one of them called "babies"--nothing but like 50 minutes of babies crying, laughing, cooing, you name it.

i always thought that he inserted the crowd noise into the section of that song in order to delete the lyrics "everybody wants to get high, but you don't see no one standing in line to say bye-bye that's pop life"--maybe he thought it sounded like he was advocating drug use and decided against that, so instead of trying to edit it out, why not just paste something "psychedelic" or odd to cover it up, know what i'm saying? something to make the listener go "what the f**k?"


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I'd still contend that it's a reference to getting booed off stage, whether at the Rolling Stones gig or not himself personally. Cuz that's what the song is about: when your popularity runs out.
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Reply #22 posted 01/27/03 12:45pm

lickerdipper

The image that always came to my mind when listening to that crowd noise is of a market ... like the British ones or something.

Interesting too all these comments on the Rolling Stones ... Have any of you checked "She's A Rainbow" ??? There's a noisy interlude on that song too that makes me go mmmh...
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Reply #23 posted 01/27/03 12:48pm

NuPwrSoul

With the "Throw the bum out" clocking in at 3:10, I am confused confuse how folks are still saying it's a circus, a fairground, a market, a train station???
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Reply #24 posted 01/27/03 1:13pm

Freaker

It sounds like a Spanish/Brazilian bottle game. It does not sound like being booed off stage as the audience are Spanish/Italian sounding
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Reply #25 posted 01/27/03 1:33pm

NuPwrSoul

Freaker said:

It sounds like a Spanish/Brazilian bottle game. It does not sound like being booed off stage as the audience are Spanish/Italian sounding


so what does the Spanish/Italian phrase "throw the bum out" mean in English?
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Reply #26 posted 01/27/03 2:05pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

Wolf said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Wolf said:

Where do you guys get this from? It's not him being booed from anywhere, you can get crowd noise from somewhere to put on your recording easily.


I remember reading from a band member that it was a reference to when he got booed off the stage when he opened up for the Rolling Stones. If not an exact recording from that incident, it's a re-enactment.

You can definitely hear someone saying "throw the bum out."


I dont think Prince would put something as humiliating as that on his own record. This is Prince were talking about, his pride and ego will only take so much from other people so I don't think he's going to do that. and that experience for him was still fresh basically 4 or 5 years after that happened. Someone is going to have to prove it for me to believe it's true.


Lovebizzare is right. He would in fact put it on record as a kind of comeuppance. "Yeah yall may have booed me off the stage a few years ago, but look at me now!" It adds an ironic twist to the song which is about the pitfalls of popstardom.
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Reply #27 posted 01/27/03 5:59pm

Hoinjsz

it sounds chaotic in the first place
but i don't think it souds like a stadium
but what it is ???
has something to do with a poplife probaly
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Reply #28 posted 01/27/03 6:08pm

rdhull

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This was a Beatles-like interlude tribute ala' Sgt Pepper...a crowd excited etc like a circus etc..but in this case it was a "boxing" match (hear the ding too?) and someone says throw the bum out as in "this fighters a bloody bum!' etc. The Rolling Stones fans are not the type to say something as goofy as "throw the bum out" etc lol. This crowd nise etc is simply stock sound effects.
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Reply #29 posted 01/27/03 6:52pm

blackwell1

I think it's sound clip from a Roller Derby contest (anybody remember those Saturday afternoon shows?). That explains that rolling sound (skates), the guy yelling "Call a time out!'' (not throw the bum out!) and the crowd cheering in the end (as someone apparently scored).
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