rudedog said:

Paris9748430 said:

This might be the most ignorant bullshit I've ever read on this forum, and that's saying ALOT!!!

Now, Jehovah Witnesses don't believe in paying bills???

Are you a complete and utter moron???

Read my other post on it, not ignorance, truth. Money is 'given' to the church for redemption. Read yours and THEIR Bible once awhile and maybe you'll be more enlightened too.

I can't think of a single religion whose adherents don't give money. Hell, even my Buddhist friends give money to their "church." (Yes, I know Buddhists don't have churches. That's why I put it in quotes.)

This does not prevent them from their bills.

[Edited 8/5/10 13:08pm]

catpark said:

jimino1 said:

maybe its an 'act of god'

Money dont matter tonight and it sure didnt matter yesterday just when u think uve got more than enough thats when it all ups and flies away, thats when u find out that ur better off making sure ur soul is alright.

Now I got that song in my head

RodeoSchro said:

Mindflux said:

Perhaps.....but does that (supposed) "public perception" really matter? I can think of many musicians, actors and so on who have had far more notorious reputations and their careers weren't harmed at all!

I really don't think that a musician not paying his bills on time is going to get anyone (except the most luddite of people) ruffled!

Not paying your bills is the worst thing any businessman can do.

The second worst thing is when you don't pay your bills and it's made public;however, you have a valid reason for disputing it but you don't tell your side of the story (or even that you HAVE a side of the story).

When the day comes that Prince can no longer get paid up front, he may find out what this kind of reputation will cost him.

Put to you this way: Would you do business/extend credit to someone that has a reputation for not paying his bills, or if he does pay them, it's only way after they're due and/or you had to threaten/take legal action?

I bet you wouldn't.

Well dang-it that just about leaves me and other poor people stuck in this economy out it the cold and not belonging to your world as you see it. Forget that there are varies numbers of circumstances that may leave any one of us in that position.

laurarichardson said:

RodeoSchro said:

Not paying your bills is the worst thing any businessman can do.

The second worst thing is when you don't pay your bills and it's made public;however, you have a valid reason for disputing it but you don't tell your side of the story (or even that you HAVE a side of the story).

When the day comes that Prince can no longer get paid up front, he may find out what this kind of reputation will cost him.

Put to you this way: Would you do business/extend credit to someone that has a reputation for not paying his bills, or if he does pay them, it's only way after they're due and/or you had to threaten/take legal action?

I bet you wouldn't.

"Prince can no longer get paid up front, he may find out what this kind of reputation will cost him."

And when do you think that is going to happen? He is in his 50s now and I expect that he might be somewhat semi-retired at this time. Mike Jackson kept getting people to give him money right up until his last days and he never paid anyone. The rich and famous live in a different world so stop apply the same rules to them as you would to anyone else.

^^^^What she said...and ya'll know it's so...

Genesia said:

Mindflux said:

Partly, yes! And, in fact, Prince doesn't even say "No comment", he says NOTHING at all!!

And, despite what Genesia has said, I think in most cases that IS the right thing to do (although, she was referring to saying "no comment", which Prince doesn't do). Its why a lot of celebrities don't say anything when a story comes out, particularly if its negative, because saying ANYTHING can be used against you, even if its a flat denial. If you don't deny or admit to anything, then people can only speculate. And, let's face it, the media is rarely interested in the truth, they just want a story. Prince knows this - and has handled the media far better than most of his contemporaries.

That works for claims that are obviously ridiculous (like someone alleging you've had a pair of ribs removed). But in cases where is room for doubt (not in your favor), you better address it.

At this point, there've been enough instances where Prince has lost lawsuits, had liens placed on his property, or settled with people to whom he's owed money that it looks like he's in the wrong. That is never a good thing.

...Or the contraversy it's self. Who is to say that this attorney is trying to capitalize on the fact that Prince has acquired this type of rep? There comes a point where your rep becomes your weakness and you get taken advantage of.

LotusMama said:

RodeoSchro said:

Not paying your bills is the worst thing any businessman can do.

The second worst thing is when you don't pay your bills and it's made public;however, you have a valid reason for disputing it but you don't tell your side of the story (or even that you HAVE a side of the story).

When the day comes that Prince can no longer get paid up front, he may find out what this kind of reputation will cost him.

Put to you this way: Would you do business/extend credit to someone that has a reputation for not paying his bills, or if he does pay them, it's only way after they're due and/or you had to threaten/take legal action?

I bet you wouldn't.

Well dang-it that just about leaves me and other poor people stuck in this economy out it the cold and not belonging to your world as you see it. Forget that there are varies numbers of circumstances that may leave any one of us in that position.

No one's talking about you. We're talking about Prince. Are you suggesting that he is hurting in this economy or doesn't have enough money to pay his bills?

That said, if you don't pay your bills, it doesn't matter who you are. It'll be a looooooong time before people will extend credit again.

Genesia said:

LotusMama said:

Well dang-it that just about leaves me and other poor people stuck in this economy out it the cold and not belonging to your world as you see it. Forget that there are varies numbers of circumstances that may leave any one of us in that position.

No one's talking about you. We're talking about Prince. Are you suggesting that he is hurting in this economy or doesn't have enough money to pay his bills?

That said, if you don't pay your bills, it doesn't matter who you are. It'll be a looooooong time before people will extend credit again.

One Love Genesia...I read the "he" in the comment as a general one and not specifically towards Prince.

LotusMama said:

Genesia said:

No one's talking about you. We're talking about Prince. Are you suggesting that he is hurting in this economy or doesn't have enough money to pay his bills?

That said, if you don't pay your bills, it doesn't matter who you are. It'll be a looooooong time before people will extend credit again.

One Love Genesia...I read the "he" in the comment as a general one and not specifically towards Prince.

The whole thread is about Prince. Read the title.

Genesia said:

LotusMama said:

One Love Genesia...I read the "he" in the comment as a general one and not specifically towards Prince.

The whole thread is about Prince. Read the title.

Peace Genesia...I do know the topic. I just read that part of his comment as being a general one. My mistake. I didn't know you had to be perfect to make a comment. I am not and pardon me but I do make mistakes...No harm no foul

Prince is supposed to be a Jehovah's Witness yes?

Matthew 5:40 - is about letting them have what they want and giving them a bonus too.

or did our lovely Prince forget this part?

RodeoSchro said:

squirrelgrease said:

>Books plane ticket... pronto<

Ummm, from one married man to another, maybe you'd better define "a year's worth" before you buy that ticket.

She could be married too, in which case she might just be talking about one. Or even a half of one.

Never forget this ancient Chinese proverb:

While standing at the altar, waiting for the bride, the best man noticed the groom had the biggest smile on his face he'd ever seen. So the best man whispered, "Why the big grin?" The groom whispered back, "I snuck in to see my future bride a hour ago, and she gave me the greatest blowjob in history! And now I'm about to be married to her for the rest of my life!"

At the same time, the bride was smiling, too. Her maid of honor asked about the smile, and the bride said, "My future husband snuck in an hour ago. I blew him, and that was the LAST blowjob I'm ever gonna give!"

I think this involved Confuscius but I'm not 100% sure on that.

Not married. No gag reflex. Years worth: 365 days.

salaciousV said:

RodeoSchro said:

Ummm, from one married man to another, maybe you'd better define "a year's worth" before you buy that ticket.

She could be married too, in which case she might just be talking about one. Or even a half of one.

Never forget this ancient Chinese proverb:

While standing at the altar, waiting for the bride, the best man noticed the groom had the biggest smile on his face he'd ever seen. So the best man whispered, "Why the big grin?" The groom whispered back, "I snuck in to see my future bride a hour ago, and she gave me the greatest blowjob in history! And now I'm about to be married to her for the rest of my life!"

At the same time, the bride was smiling, too. Her maid of honor asked about the smile, and the bride said, "My future husband snuck in an hour ago. I blew him, and that was the LAST blowjob I'm ever gonna give!"

I think this involved Confuscius but I'm not 100% sure on that.

Not married. No gag reflex. Years worth: 365 days.

so what.

Genesia said:

rudedog said:

Read my other post on it, not ignorance, truth. Money is 'given' to the church for redemption. Read yours and THEIR Bible once awhile and maybe you'll be more enlightened too.

I can't think of a single religion whose adherents don't give money. Hell, even my Buddhist friends give money to their "church." (Yes, I know Buddhists don't have churches. That's why I put it in quotes.)

This does not prevent them from their bills.

[Edited 8/5/10 13:08pm]

HA, good example of how religions/cult corrupt their own principles for their own personal gain. Listen, i'm pretty far on the opposite spectrum of religion (been there, done that) so my opinion is definitely a lot more judgmental when it comes to religions and in this case, cults. But I will tell you there are churches out there that are greedy, i've seen it in my lifetime. I'm not saying ALL churches are greedy, but there are definitely some that are. When you can't pay your bills because a church wants you to give it to God, that's a problem. The failure to see past your actions to your own detriment is why I abhor religions and cults that do this.

Now, could I be wrong about this, sure. But for a man who has made billions of dollars off his music and still continues to make that much off royalties....i find it very hard...more like impossible to believe that he can't pay a guy $50,000. So unless he's addicted to Heroin or high priced Hookers, I can't see any other expense that will drain that much money out of you. Oh, lest i forget the other times he hasn't paid his bills. Prince is in dire straits, he's going down a dark path. I may not like the dude for screwing his fans royally, but I don't want to see him dig himself into a deep hole he can't get out of.

TheEnglishGent said:

squirrelgrease said:

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1. When Will U B Paid, (For The Work You've Done)

2. Willing And Able, (I just won't)

3. I Wanna Be Your Debtor

4. Let's Pretend We're Paying

4. (No), Sign o The Cheque.

5. Forever In My Pocket

6. The One U Wanna Invoice

7. Illusion, Contracts, Bills and Court Visit.

8. Why Should Eye Pay That When I Can Dismiss

9. Baby I'm a Scrooge.

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LotusMama said:

RodeoSchro said:

Not paying your bills is the worst thing any businessman can do.

The second worst thing is when you don't pay your bills and it's made public;however, you have a valid reason for disputing it but you don't tell your side of the story (or even that you HAVE a side of the story).

When the day comes that Prince can no longer get paid up front, he may find out what this kind of reputation will cost him.

Put to you this way: Would you do business/extend credit to someone that has a reputation for not paying his bills, or if he does pay them, it's only way after they're due and/or you had to threaten/take legal action?

I bet you wouldn't.

Well dang-it that just about leaves me and other poor people stuck in this economy out it the cold and not belonging to your world as you see it. Forget that there are varies numbers of circumstances that may leave any one of us in that position.

You are confusing (1) an honest inability to pay a bill because of uncontrollable economic circumstances with (2) a refusal to pay a bill unless forced to do so by legal action.

Unless you think Prince is broke, then he falls into category 2. And hey, I've been in category (1) before so don't think I don't know the difference.

Or put it this way - would YOU do business with a person that you KNOW has the money to pay you but very likely will NOT pay you until you sue him for what is owed? Would you really do business with a person like that? I wouldn't, UNLESS I made him pay everything up front - you know, like Prince makes promoters and music distributors pay these days.

Get it now?

LotusMama said:

laurarichardson said:

"Prince can no longer get paid up front, he may find out what this kind of reputation will cost him."

And when do you think that is going to happen? He is in his 50s now and I expect that he might be somewhat semi-retired at this time. Mike Jackson kept getting people to give him money right up until his last days and he never paid anyone. The rich and famous live in a different world so stop apply the same rules to them as you would to anyone else.

^^^^What she said...and ya'll know it's so...

Like I said, if you think different rules apply to the rich when it comes to things like these, you're sadly mistaken.

The great thing about reputations is that you can be rich or poor but it doesn't matter - your reputation is what YOU make it.

squirrelgrease said:

salaciousV said:

Not married. No gag reflex. Years worth: 365 days.

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purplemansionFL said:

Prince is getting dragged into court by high powered attorney Ed McPherson -- who claims his purple highness owes him a royal fortune ... nearly $50,000 for services rendered.



According to the lawsuit, Prince hired McPherson to represent him on two different cases -- and racked up a legal bill of $49,987.74. McPherson says he "performed legal services on [Prince's] behalf in an exemplary manner" -- but has yet to get paid.

Prophetically, one of the cases Prince hired McPherson for was a lawsuit by an agency which -- like McPherson -- claimed Prince screwed them over financially.

In the docs, filed today in L.A. County Superior Court, McPherson claims he made "countless attempts ... to resolve this matter" with Prince.

Prince's rep hasn't returned our call yet.

This is why, as a lawyer, I make sure to get my money up front! Regardless of who the client is!!!

rudedog said:

Mindflux said:

Whilst I might agree with the sentiment of not requiring organised religion, you will actually find that the JWs support paying taxes and bills!

They don't believe in voting thats for sure. I have friends and family that are JWs, they rope you into giving money to ONLY the church...for the 'betterment' of your soul. You know the whole 'Its easier for a camel to go thruogh the eye of a needle than for a rich man get into heaven'

Oh come on. This is true of everything outside tax. Churches be it Anglican, Catholic, Seven Day Adventist etc need money to survive. Post 16th Century when the reformation stoped taxation going to a central point (i.e. The Vatican-and I've been brought up in a strict Catholic background, so I'm not saying that from an anti Papist stance), all faiths need financing. Dispute the faith not how money is collected. JHW's are not a cult, that is cruel. I do not agree with their beliefs but hey ho-we could almost take this argument towards Prince. To be on a website like this is almost religious and I know that if I could get my cash back on what I've spent on Prince since 1984- well I could probably afford to make myself look like I did in 1984!!!

Kick'is ass, Ed! Maybe it'll lead to a US Tour or a 20Ten followup

robinhood said:

Prince is supposed to be a Jehovah's Witness yes?

Matthew 5:40 - is about letting them have what they want and giving them a bonus too.

or did our lovely Prince forget this part?

NET ©	And if someone wants to sue you and to take your tunic,1 give him your coat also.
NIV © biblegateway Mat 5:40	And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.
NASB © biblegateway Mat 5:40	"If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.
NLT © biblegateway Mat 5:40	If you are ordered to court and your shirt is taken from you, give your coat, too.
MSG © biblegateway Mat 5:40	If someone drags you into court and sues for the shirt off your back, giftwrap your best coat and make a present of it.
BBE © SABDAweb Mat 5:40	And if any man goes to law with you and takes away your coat, do not keep back your robe from him.
NRSV © bibleoremusMat 5:40	and if anyone wants to sue you and take your coat, give your cloak as well;
NKJV © biblegateway Mat 5:40	"If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also.

Render onto Caesar!!! Oh Jesus could be so smug!!!!

RodeoSchro said:

LotusMama said:

Well dang-it that just about leaves me and other poor people stuck in this economy out it the cold and not belonging to your world as you see it. Forget that there are varies numbers of circumstances that may leave any one of us in that position.

You are confusing (1) an honest inability to pay a bill because of uncontrollable economic circumstances with (2) a refusal to pay a bill unless forced to do so by legal action.

Unless you think Prince is broke, then he falls into category 2. And hey, I've been in category (1) before so don't think I don't know the difference.

Or put it this way - would YOU do business with a person that you KNOW has the money to pay you but very likely will NOT pay you until you sue him for what is owed? Would you really do business with a person like that? I wouldn't, UNLESS I made him pay everything up front - you know, like Prince makes promoters and music distributors pay these days.

Get it now?

Gotcha!

However eventhough it appears that he has a bad reputation when it comes to paying bills and being sued in this case we only know one side of the story. $50,000 just sounds so minimal considering how much mega stars usually pay for lawyer services. There has gotta be more to this story than meets the

txlaw said:

purplemansionFL said:

Prince is getting dragged into court by high powered attorney Ed McPherson -- who claims his purple highness owes him a royal fortune ... nearly $50,000 for services rendered.



According to the lawsuit, Prince hired McPherson to represent him on two different cases -- and racked up a legal bill of $49,987.74. McPherson says he "performed legal services on [Prince's] behalf in an exemplary manner" -- but has yet to get paid.

Prophetically, one of the cases Prince hired McPherson for was a lawsuit by an agency which -- like McPherson -- claimed Prince screwed them over financially.

In the docs, filed today in L.A. County Superior Court, McPherson claims he made "countless attempts ... to resolve this matter" with Prince.

Prince's rep hasn't returned our call yet.

This is why, as a lawyer, I make sure to get my money up front! Regardless of who the client is!!!

Interesting. At least anyone who provides Prince with goods or services should absolutely get paid up front. I wonder if Tremolina gets paid up front as well - I'm surprised he hasn't added to this thread. The insight of a lawyer in this instance could add to a more logical discourse.

sro100 said:

Do y'all know how many times famous, and not famous, people get dragged into court. It's not an admission of guilt.

An accountant who is a Virgo will be good for this situation. And all money matters. As far as Lawyers, Libra and Gemini.

Another tryin 2 cash in. Explotin Prince. Prince uses services all the time.

Sam 8)

sambluedolphin said:

Another tryin 2 cash in. Explotin Prince. Prince uses services all the time.

Sam 8)

Seriously? Prince has been NOTORIOUS for not paying people for DECADES.

Just because he's so great, doesn't mean he can't be shiesty.

Y'all some dick ridin' delusional folks. I'm going back the the GD forum....

jcurley said:

robinhood said:

Prince is supposed to be a Jehovah's Witness yes?

Matthew 5:40 - is about letting them have what they want and giving them a bonus too.

or did our lovely Prince forget this part?

NET ©	And if someone wants to sue you and to take your tunic,1 give him your coat also.
NIV © biblegateway Mat 5:40	And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.
NASB © biblegateway Mat 5:40	"If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.
NLT © biblegateway Mat 5:40	If you are ordered to court and your shirt is taken from you, give your coat, too.
MSG © biblegateway Mat 5:40	If someone drags you into court and sues for the shirt off your back, giftwrap your best coat and make a present of it.
BBE © SABDAweb Mat 5:40	And if any man goes to law with you and takes away your coat, do not keep back your robe from him.
NRSV © bibleoremusMat 5:40	and if anyone wants to sue you and take your coat, give your cloak as well;
NKJV © biblegateway Mat 5:40	"If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also.

Render onto Caesar!!! Oh Jesus could be so smug!!!!

Jesus knew how to do business.

Mayte319 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

1. When Will U B Paid, (For The Work You've Done)

2. Willing And Able, (I just won't)

3. I Wanna Be Your Debtor

4. Let's Pretend We're Paying

4. (No), Sign o The Cheque.

5. Forever In My Pocket

6. The One U Wanna Invoice

7. Illusion, Contracts, Bills and Court Visit.

8. Why Should Eye Pay That When I Can Dismiss

9. Baby I'm a Scrooge.

Hidden Bonus

77. Rippedoffcallthelawyer

Loving it! Guess Prince got his internet connection cut and as he no long like the internet has banned anyone from doing online banking on his behalf lol. Theres gotta be a scripture some place that says you gotta pay your bills!

The scripture says this (and these R the wordz of Jesus): "Render onto Caesar what is Caesar's. Render onto GOD what is GOD's". This was Jesus' response after people questioned Him about paying taxes. I also take that as Jesus telling us 2 tithe and also pay our debts (taxes, bills, etc.)