ahmarhett said:

oh please god no. he is way to short to be abusive. most of the women he dates r taller than him... even when he has on the heels. balance can't be that good in heels i know. i wear them. i'd knock his little head off his little body. i'd sit on him. i mean im only 160 but he is 90lbs soakin wet. i'd squash him like a bug..... im sorry. i have an issue with abusive men.lmao

Height and size don't really come into it, he's a man, everybody knows men are stronger than women, no competition!! I seriously doubt he did it though, just doesn't seem the type, he seems so respectful of women, a real gentleman

It certainly did not happen. How long ago were these alleged acts? Any woman that has been abused by a man should/would have reported said man to authorities by now if it were true. . Sounds very fishy to me.

joanne55555 said:

ahmarhett said:

oh please god no. he is way to short to be abusive. most of the women he dates r taller than him... even when he has on the heels. balance can't be that good in heels i know. i wear them. i'd knock his little head off his little body. i'd sit on him. i mean im only 160 but he is 90lbs soakin wet. i'd squash him like a bug..... im sorry. i have an issue with abusive men.lmao

Height and size don't really come into it, he's a man, everybody knows men are stronger than women, no competition!! I seriously doubt he did it though, just doesn't seem the type, he seems so respectful of women, a real gentleman

Not in my neck of the woods it ain't.

My mother who's 5'5 wiped the floor with a 6'3 dude who said the wrong thing to her, and he's built like he would inhale 10 men for breakfast.

And men would happily jump off the nearest cleft if they experienced a "hint" of labor pains. So, I don't understand how they're "stronger" than women

[Edited 7/28/10 11:38am]

SoulAlive said:

a woman everyday should be thanked

not disrespected,not raped or spanked

and if a woman ever said I did

she's a motherfuckin' liar and I'm a set-up kid

even those lyrics are a contradiction, the first part about thanks & respect, the second part calling some hypothetical woman a MOTHERFUCKING LIAR!!

Must admit, all the stupid fams who say he wouldn't do it make me laugh....

We have to at least admit that he's capable of doing it.

ernestsewell said:

No one ever confirmed Jill was talking about Prince. Jill talks about more than Prince in her life, especially at this point. There were a lot of folks in that audience who were probably known to have been abusive to a woman. Doesn't mean she meant Prince.

joanne55555 said:

ahmarhett said:

oh please god no. he is way to short to be abusive. most of the women he dates r taller than him... even when he has on the heels. balance can't be that good in heels i know. i wear them. i'd knock his little head off his little body. i'd sit on him. i mean im only 160 but he is 90lbs soakin wet. i'd squash him like a bug..... im sorry. i have an issue with abusive men.lmao

Height and size don't really come into it, he's a man, everybody knows men are stronger than women, no competition!! I seriously doubt he did it though, just doesn't seem the type, he seems so respectful of women, a real gentleman

That is SO not true.

Only the woman knows...only she knows...

ahmarhett said:

oh please god no. he is way to short to be abusive. most of the women he dates r taller than him... even when he has on the heels. balance can't be that good in heels i know. i wear them. i'd knock his little head off his little body. i'd sit on him. i mean im only 160 but he is 90lbs soakin wet. i'd squash him like a bug..... im sorry. i have an issue with abusive men.lmao

He's not too short to be abusive. There are many short men who are abusive. It's called the Napoleon complex. Now couple that with a history of violence in that person's family while growing up and you have the makings of a volatile personality. For other orgers (not you) who find it hard to believe that Prince would hit a woman, we all know that you can't take people at face value as everyone has a dark side. There is a lot unseen behind closed doors.

NDRU said:

SoulAlive said:

a woman everyday should be thanked

not disrespected,not raped or spanked

and if a woman ever said I did

she's a motherfuckin' liar and I'm a set-up kid

even those lyrics are a contradiction, the first part about thanks & respect, the second part calling some hypothetical woman a MOTHERFUCKING LIAR!!

true,but if a woman accused you of something like that,I'm sure you would have some 'choice words' for her too!

Interesting comment from Jill. Yeah clearly she's hinting Prince may have roughed her up. As for men always being stronger than women...that's not always the case lol

ernestsewell said:

No one ever confirmed Jill was talking about Prince. Jill talks about more than Prince in her life, especially at this point. There were a lot of folks in that audience who were probably known to have been abusive to a woman. Doesn't mean she meant Prince.

Er, read the status she put up on the Associated Artists forum.

i saw prince hit appolonia in a movie once, when he found out she was going to make music with his arch rival Morris...anyone seen that?

So what's this i hear bout the poster known as robinhood hitting women? Has just as much validity as the original post.

sro100 said:

So what's this i hear bout the poster known as robinhood hitting women? Has just as much validity as the original post.

except you've heard no such thing, cuz i never have.

please point me to the facebook page which makes such a claim, and the interviews and attempted lawsuits of women who accuse me of such.

oops. you cant.

MJ007 said:

Interesting Facebook status from Jill Jones Poor Chris Brown, everyone needs to lay off know. The honorable thing would've been for Prince to speak up and stop being so pious. Chris got caught, he never did. The above was from http://prince.org/msg/5/339004. So she DID mean Prince. However, in another thread (http://prince.org/msg/5/339005) of the same topic it was noted that she changed her original comment to the following: "In about 15 years Chris Brown you too will be accepting your Lifetime Achievement Award from BET and all of this will be behind you!!You're not the only man in that room unfortunately who beat a woman but you got caught and now are the example for all of your role models who piously sit by and watch."

yeah, there it is. thanks for posting. she seems to be referencing Prince in both messages.

if it's true, then i feel sorry for him. gotta be hella screwed up to hit a woman.

doubt he's done that for a long time though, and bet he wouldnt dare do it now.

still would be great to get the truth about it, cuz it'd be awful if Prince turned out to be a 'motherfuckin liar'.

erik319 said:

If it really did happen and said person was stood before a judge being cross examined and was asked if they were attacked, do you really think that 'I'm sorry, I can't answer that because I signed a confidentiality agreement' would wash as an excuse not to answer?

one woman already tried to sue him and it didnt make a bit of difference what she said cuz she couldnt prove it.

i dont know much about confidentiality agreements or what his agreements entail

but i wonder if they say something like "ur not allowed to discuss ANYTHING that goes on here".

and if anyone does discuss it, he could turn around and sue for slander i guess.

NDRU said:

SoulAlive said:

a woman everyday should be thanked

not disrespected,not raped or spanked

and if a woman ever said I did

she's a motherfuckin' liar and I'm a set-up kid

even those lyrics are a contradiction, the first part about thanks & respect, the second part calling some hypothetical woman a MOTHERFUCKING LIAR!!

maybe Prince figured a woman only deserved respect as long as she was conforming to his version of reality lol

his younger years as a pop-star were pretty 'out there'; lots of money, drugs, big man prince, too cool for school etc..

he might've thought he could do whatever he liked and get away with it.

all he ever needed to do was deny any allegations against him and cover his ass in his lyrics lol

robinhood said:

NDRU said:

even those lyrics are a contradiction, the first part about thanks & respect, the second part calling some hypothetical woman a MOTHERFUCKING LIAR!!

maybe Prince figured a woman only deserved respect as long as she was conforming to his version of reality lol

his younger years as a pop-star were pretty 'out there'; lots of money, drugs, big man prince, too cool for school etc..

he might've thought he could do whatever he liked and get away with it.

all he ever needed to do was deny any allegations against him and cover his ass in his lyrics lol

Huh-huh. Sorry but no "too cool for school" (Prince finished hi-school before he started trying to make a living outta his music) and no "drugs" (he definitely was clean as far as we know and we know a lot about these years).

So maybe he did beat somebody at some point and Jill has something to reveal, but that's no reason to start claiming just any bullshit ^^

databank said:

robinhood said:

maybe Prince figured a woman only deserved respect as long as she was conforming to his version of reality lol

his younger years as a pop-star were pretty 'out there'; lots of money, drugs, big man prince, too cool for school etc..

he might've thought he could do whatever he liked and get away with it.

all he ever needed to do was deny any allegations against him and cover his ass in his lyrics lol

Huh-huh. Sorry but no "too cool for school" (Prince finished hi-school before he started trying to make a living outta his music) and no "drugs" (he definitely was clean as far as we know and we know a lot about these years).

So maybe he did beat somebody at some point and Jill has something to reveal, but that's no reason to start claiming just any bullshit ^^

"too cool for school" is another way of saying he believed himself to be an authority unto himself

even in recent interviews it's been said he has his own rules and those who dont play by them dont get to 'party'.

as for the drugs thing, sure, maybe ur right, but there might be a difference between what we think we know, and the truth.

if Prince never did anything 'wrong', then i guess he's got nothing to worry about.

but if it's possible he's painted a whole different picture of himself as a public figure, to what went on behind closed doors, then maybe he can expect that facade to come crumbling down at some point.

it might also be 'bullshit' to presume he never did drugs, just because you havent obtained any proof to the contrary.

but i understand that most of us believe what we want to believe, regardless of any fact that might be presented.

robinhood said:

databank said:

Huh-huh. Sorry but no "too cool for school" (Prince finished hi-school before he started trying to make a living outta his music) and no "drugs" (he definitely was clean as far as we know and we know a lot about these years).

So maybe he did beat somebody at some point and Jill has something to reveal, but that's no reason to start claiming just any bullshit ^^

"too cool for school" is another way of saying he believed himself to be an authority unto himself

even in recent interviews it's been said he has his own rules and those who dont play by them dont get to 'party'.

as for the drugs thing, sure, maybe ur right, but there might be a difference between what we think we know, and the truth.

if Prince never did anything 'wrong', then i guess he's got nothing to worry about.

but if it's possible he's painted a whole different picture of himself as a public figure, to what went on behind closed doors, then maybe he can expect that facade to come crumbling down at some point.

it might also be 'bullshit' to presume he never did drugs, just because you havent obtained any proof to the contrary.

but i understand that most of us believe what we want to believe, regardless of any fact that might be presented.

I try to stick to facts. What's been said by several people who were there.

Not claiming to know it all. Not claiming i'm satisfied with everything i've read about Prince ot that i approve everything i've read he's said or done. Just trying to stick to facts as long as several witnesses are there to corroborate them. Find me a few close associates who claim he took drugs, beat women, is bisexual, whatever, i'll believe it. 4 now i just try to stick to facts.

databank said:

Jill's claims are serious. If she's lying that's harsh bullshit, and if she knows something she wants to share, then she should share it clearly.

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Can't someone here who's Jill Jones' friend on FB ask her CLEARLY wtf it's about by email? She will be remembered as the girl who hinted that Prince was abusive anyway, so she'd better be more specific about it and clear that whole situation.

i agree. but it seems to be less a 'hint' and more a direct claim, twice.

if Jill found it necessary to post it, and edit it on her facebook page, maybe she'd like to take it a step further and spell it out.

either way it's in the past, but i understand if she wants to talk about it now, and if she doesn't, i'd wonder why.

is she telling the truth?

is it true, but not something she cares about that much to make a big deal out of it?

or is she frightened of the 'repercussions' if she goes into details?

guess we just have to wait and see.

Harlepolis said:

joanne55555 said:

Height and size don't really come into it, he's a man, everybody knows men are stronger than women, no competition!! I seriously doubt he did it though, just doesn't seem the type, he seems so respectful of women, a real gentleman

Not in my neck of the woods it ain't.

My mother who's 5'5 wiped the floor with a 6'3 dude who said the wrong thing to her, and he's built like he would inhale 10 men for breakfast.

And men would happily jump off the nearest cleft if they experienced a "hint" of labor pains. So, I don't understand how they're "stronger" than women

[Edited 7/28/10 11:38am]

Well ok so if women and men are equal in strength then whats the big deal about men hitting women in the first place - it'd be an equal fight then right? Also think about it, if women were of equal strength there'd be no such thing as rape.

Men are stronger because they're supposed to be the protectors, women are the nurturers, therefore not needing so much strength. I'm obviously not talking about strength of character here, just brute force.

joanne55555 said:

Harlepolis said:

Not in my neck of the woods it ain't.

My mother who's 5'5 wiped the floor with a 6'3 dude who said the wrong thing to her, and he's built like he would inhale 10 men for breakfast.

And men would happily jump off the nearest cleft if they experienced a "hint" of labor pains. So, I don't understand how they're "stronger" than women

[Edited 7/28/10 11:38am]

Well ok so if women and men are equal in strength then whats the big deal about men hitting women in the first place - it'd be an equal fight then right? Also think about it, if women were of equal strength there'd be no such thing as rape.

Men are stronger because they're supposed to be the protectors, women are the nurturers, therefore not needing so much strength. I'm obviously not talking about strength of character here, just brute force.

Er.....yeah????

This is my take on it. How long ago did this maybe happen? Did she still hang with him after it maybe happened? If so WHY??? Why is she just now saying this? Sometimes it's better to deal with things in the moment. If you don't than don't bring it up years after the fact on a public forum. Go to him instead of posting such comments on facebook and work it out.

I'm not saying I condone violence because I don't. There are ways to handle things such as this and posting it on facebook years after the fact isn't one of them.

mayrain said:

This is my take on it. How long ago did this maybe happen? Did she still hang with him after it maybe happened? If so WHY??? Why is she just now saying this? Sometimes it's better to deal with things in the moment. If you don't than don't bring it up years after the fact on a public forum. Go to him instead of posting such comments on facebook and work it out.

I'm not saying I condone violence because I don't. There are ways to handle things such as this and posting it on facebook years after the fact isn't one of them.

Mnay people dealing with this kind of abuse can only talk about it later.

Not everyone is as balanced as you.

TheVoid said:

I honestly hope never to read a full unauthorized biography from someone in the Prince camp.

It's only a matter of time before one surfaces with real juicy parts. Shit Rock Hudsen and Liberace tried like hell to slide their business under the carpet. But dirty laundry seems to always get aired. MJ's legacy days are numbered--it's only matter of time. But, I dread those parts, honestly. The parts dealing with Prince that is.

My skin crawls imagining a Jill Jones excerpt:

"He came at me with a pair of pumps and smacked my bottom hard. 'That'll teach you for wearing my dresses!,' He screamed...."

Realistic yet funny post, as always anyway.

Damnit Void...I want a baby from you!

eireboy34 said:

mayrain said:

This is my take on it. How long ago did this maybe happen? Did she still hang with him after it maybe happened? If so WHY??? Why is she just now saying this? Sometimes it's better to deal with things in the moment. If you don't than don't bring it up years after the fact on a public forum. Go to him instead of posting such comments on facebook and work it out.

I'm not saying I condone violence because I don't. There are ways to handle things such as this and posting it on facebook years after the fact isn't one of them.

Mnay people dealing with this kind of abuse can only talk about it later.

Not everyone is as balanced as you.

What kind of abuse????? No one knows if abuse happened? How do u know I'm balanced??? I just think people need to talk to one another. If she is refering to Prince it's comes across as bitter rather than needing healing and understanding. I say take it to him and deal with it stop posting on facebook.

robinhood said:

mayrain said:

eireboy34 said:

Mnay people dealing with this kind of abuse can only talk about it later.

Not everyone is as balanced as you.

What kind of abuse????? No one knows if abuse happened? How do u know I'm balanced??? I just think people need to talk to one another. If she is refering to Prince it's comes across as bitter rather than needing healing and understanding. I say take it to him and deal with it stop posting on facebook.

ER? rape, incest wife-beating, moral/sexual harrasment....I wasn't saying I definitely know Prince has beaten women, I was saying that coming back to the problem years after is classic of abuse victims.

I really do believe you are a very balanced person.

[Edited 7/29/10 23:40pm]