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Thread started 07/19/10 10:32am

paisleypark4

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Prince music: 2000's vs. 90's?

Which do u perfer?

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My answer?

2000's. It was hard being a fan from 1991 - 1999 for me being a kid ..defending his output...defending his face paint..defending his chain hat..defending his lollipop picture...defending the sloppy music. I wont take any of it back for the world; however I just feel ever since he took back his name the music just got better all over again. I hardly have been jamming to the 80's music hence release of 20Ten..it just seems played out for me right now. Im celebrating his last ten years in music.

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Reply #1 posted 07/19/10 10:35am

ElectricSolo

cooll dude share my purpleLove x7 ♥

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Reply #2 posted 07/19/10 11:37am

SadAntenna

2000s! I think things got really bad in the 90s, to the point where there isn't a single album I want to listen to from end to end from that decade. D&P and Graffiti Bridge are probably the best of the crop (for me), but still pretty shoddy.

The 2000s have been a long, slow return to form. Not the form of the 80s, but an elderly legend kinda form with some decent, sometimes enjoyable output.

I think we will see even better output in the next decade. So I'll sit back and enjoy the ride for another decade. Nay, all the way cool

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Reply #3 posted 07/19/10 12:15pm

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hard to say, I expected a lot more in the 90's and I hyped the 90's stuff up more out of a desire for it to be great, but it was also more disappointing.

I think the 90's stuff tried harder to be wild, and in some cases succeeded. In some cases just created some embarassing music. I guess the 2000's is more consistent (NEWS aside) but a bit less exciting.

I would probably still go with the 90's.

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Reply #4 posted 07/19/10 12:38pm

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For me, it's got to be the 90's. The Symbol Album and Gold are 2 of my favorites after his classic 80's run, with Emancipation not far behind. The 2000's, while maybe a little more consistent, haven't really been exciting.

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Reply #5 posted 07/19/10 12:43pm

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bonkers said:

For me, it's got to be the 90's. The Symbol Album and Gold are 2 of my favorites after his classic 80's run, with Emancipation not far behind. The 2000's, while maybe a little more consistent, haven't really been exciting.

I agree, and for hits Diamonds & Pearls can't be matched this decade. You have "lesser" albums like Chaos & Disorder and Come which are totally enjoyable, hidden gems like The Truth, and one last bit of classic Prince sound in Graffiti Bridge.

The 00's has some stuff of worth, but I'd have to go with the 90's.

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Reply #6 posted 07/19/10 12:53pm

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I choose the 2000's because, overall, the albums are better. The 90's had some amazing individual songs though.

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Reply #7 posted 07/19/10 12:55pm

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1990s by far,

all those classic hits, 1991-1992.

AND: Come and The Gold Experience are brilliant albums, IMO.

Try listen to THE DAWN 3 cd. Nothing from the 2000's can beat this.

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Reply #8 posted 07/19/10 12:56pm

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THE DAWN..... heart cool

here's the tracklist to proove just how incredible it is. wink

disc 1:

01. WELCOME 2 THE DAWN (2:08 ) – edit of the track available on ‘The Truth’. (intro noise reinstated)

02. npg operator (0:12)

03. COME (PART 1) (4:22) – mix created using the Beautiful Experience remix (Deposition) and the original version (FAAB).

04. ENDORPHIN MACHINE (3:50) – taken from the Come original test pressing.

05. SPACE (5:10) – mix created using the album version, with snall bits from the Universal Love Mix and the Funky Stuff remix.

06. WE MARCH (4:43) - taken from 'The Gold Experience' (intro and outro crossfades)

07. DAYS OF WILD (7:17) – mix created using the released live version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the guitar solo from one of the AHDIO Shows from NPGMC year 1.

08. npg operator (0:17)

09. THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL IN THE WORLD (6:20) – mix of ‘The Gold Experience’ album version and the unreleased ‘Mustang 96 Remix’ (The Work), now also includes saxophone parts taken from the 'Sax Mix/Brian's Mix' and Mayte's spanish version: 'Quieres Ser El Mas Bello De Este Mundo'.

10. THE POPE (4:33) – mix created using the album version from ‘The Hits 2’, the promo only 12" remix, a drum loop from ‘Acknowledge Me’ (barely noticable) and a burst of ‘D.M.S.R.’ from the ‘1999’ album.

11. RIPOPGODAZIPPA (4:37) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’.

12. npg operator (0:06)

13. RACE (8:21) – mix created using the video version (from the Beautiful Experience TV special) and the ‘Outta Space’ part of the unreleased NPG version of ‘Super Hero’ from the ‘Exodus’ sessions (Fantasia).

14. EMPTY ROOM (3:16) – unreleased track (The Work)

15. npg operator (0:07)

16. MAD (5:29) – unreleased track (Deposition). full length version reinstated from 3.1 version

17. ROCK & ROLL IS ALIVE (4:31) – b-side to ‘Gold’, pitch shifted up a semitone to get it in the right key.

18. SHHH (6:58 ) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’

19. STRAYS OF THE WORLD (4:41) – edit of the track released on ‘Crystal Ball’ (Drum/fanfare intro ommitted and opening keyboard section extended.)

disc 2:

01. PUSSY CONTROL (5:38 ) – the VH1 Fashion Awards version (The Work), intro uses a snippet of the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’.

02. npg operator (0:09)

03. PEACH (3:05) – edit of the version from ‘The Hits 2’ and parts of ‘The Purple Medley’

04. CHAOS & DISORDER (4:12) – unreleased original version (FAAB), pitch shifted up to the same key as ‘Peach’ (intro also extended by 1 bar).

05. SHY (4:55) – new mix created by using the released version from ‘The Gold Experience’ and loops from the unreleased original mix (FAAB).

06. npg operator (0:15)

07. PHEROMONE (4:28 ) – taken from ‘Come’, with the addition of a few seconds from the unreleased instrumental version (Cosmos).

08. 319 (3:19) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’, including the ‘hotel lobby’ intro (which is how it was originally intended to appear on the released album, as the intro was specifically created to make the song last exactly 3:19).

09. HIDE THE BONE (5:06) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’

10. 18 & OVER (6:22) – original unreleased longer version (Fantasia), edited slightly at the end to create an ‘ending’ rather than a fade out.

11. npg operator (0:14)

12. LEMME SEE THAT BODY GET LOOSE (4:32) – remix created using ‘Loose!’ from ‘Come’ and the unreleased instrumental ‘(Lemme See Your Body) Get Loose!’ (Fantasia). (Loosely based on various live renditions from around the time).

13. PAPA (2:57) – taken from ‘Come’ now includes rain/thunder sound effects segue into...

14. DARK - taken from 'Come'

15. npg operator (0:06)

16. BILLY JACK BITCH (8:26) – new mix using the album version from 'The Gold Experience', the unreleased ‘full length’ version (The Work), the Hornheads' 'New Dell Inn' and 'Bitch' sample from Fishbone's 'Lyin' Ass Bitch'. drum loop lifted from Graham Central Station's 'Love 4 1another' (which was lifted from 'Billy Jack Bitch' in the first place anyway), had to do this as no clean loop can be lifted from 'Billy Jack Bitch' itself

17. I HATE U (8:51) – mix created using ‘The Gold Experience’ version and the ‘Extended Remix’, now updated slightly with drum samples from the album version played over parts taken from the 'Extended Remix' to add continuity.

18. LET IT GO (5:29) – taken from ‘Come’, street noises on outro taken from the outro to ‘Lady Cab Driver’ from ‘1999’.

19. DON’T TALK 2 STRANGERS (3:12) – taken from the ‘Girl 6’ sountrack.

disc 3:

01. INTERACTIVE (3:01) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’

02. ACKNOWLEDGE ME (7:10) – mix created using the version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the ‘Big City Remix’ of the NPG’s ‘The Good Life’. now also includes parts from the unreleased original edit of the song, plus a sample from the 'Pope (Remix)'.

03. npg operator (0:10)

04. SOMEBODY’S SOMEBODY (3:42) – the released ‘Livestudio Mix’ (promo / b-side to ‘The Holy River CD single).

05. LOVE SIGN (4:36) – the ‘1-800-NEW-FUNK’ version, edited slightly to create an actual ‘ending’ to the song. (Intro segue features snippet of the unreleased ‘Mack Attack Message Mix’ over street sounds and gunshots taken from various sound effects discs)

06. WHAT’S MY NAME (3:02) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’, with the addition of the unreleased spoken "welcome 2 the dawn" intro (Deposition).

07. THE RIDE (8:44) – mix created using the version on ‘Crystal Ball’ and the unreleased version from ‘The Undertaker’ album, intro drums cleaned up a bit and start of song now extended by a couple of bars using loop of the beat with odd keyboard and guitar parts from the later breakdown section spun in.

08. Zannalee (2:46) - unreleased original version.

09. npg operator (0:20)

10. NOW (4:29) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’. no longer edited down

11. FACE DOWN (2:19) – remix made using the promo only ‘Acapella Mix’ and loops from ‘Now’. intro now extended slightly due to different segue point with previous track

12. npg operator (0:13)

13. 2MORROW (4:19) – taken from ‘Crystal Ball’, full version reinstated from 3.1 version

14. THE SAME DECEMBER (3:27) – taken from ‘Chaos And Disorder’.

15. EXTRAORDINARY (2:26) – taken from ‘The Vault… Old Friends 4 Sale’ (birdsong outro from a sound effects disc).

16. DOLPHIN (6:18 ) – mix of the released version from ‘Come’ and the unreleased version’s outro from ‘The Undertaker’ album.

17. COME (PART 2) (11:50) – mix created using the released version from ‘Come’ (full album version now used rather than edit) and the unreleased (as a whole track) ‘Poem’ from the Come Original test pressing,

18. npg operator (0:39)

19. GOLD (7:28 ) – taken from ‘The Gold Experience’.

Credits: Info from housequake.com (Thanks to the original poster!)

[Edited 7/19/10 12:58pm]

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Reply #9 posted 07/19/10 1:12pm

darmstro

Interestingly, just this weekend I got a drunken urge to compare all three major decades of his career. I put together track lists, by decade, of all the songs that I (personally) qualify as exceedingly strong to excellent. Maybe not certifiable classics, but the songs that really matter... again, to me.

I started in the 2000s, and came up with 27 songs. Moved onto the '90s, and came up with 34. The '80s are in a realm all their own, in the high 60s. How many artists have penned 120+ songs that are either truly great, or deeply meaningful to an individual?

When it comes to '90s to 2000s, I'd say the '90s have much greater peaks. There's nothing in the last decade that matches Joy in Repetition, much of the Gold Experience, etc. Yet, I would say that there's something a bit more stylistically coherent about the 2000s for me, whereas there's a flamboyance to the '90s that comes off as a bit more gimmicky as a decade.

So I may have to vote the 2000s, to be honest.

That being said, both decades had ridiculously embarrassing lows - I'd be tough put to determine whether albums (on the whole) like Planet Earth or Chaos and Disorder/Emancipation were more cringe inducing. All three of those albums had at least one track each, however, that made my "great" cut.

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Reply #10 posted 07/19/10 1:14pm

paisleypark4

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thedance said:

1990s by far,

all those classic hits, 1991-1992.

AND: Come and The Gold Experience are brilliant albums, IMO.

Try listen to THE DAWN 3 cd. Nothing from the 2000's can beat this.

music

While that is cool and junk and the list above was cute...

theres something else...

THE FUNK....

Almost.... absent in the 90's material. cry And thus which made me regress and long for it most of the time.

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Reply #11 posted 07/19/10 1:45pm

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There are several great albums in the 90s.

There's only one great album in the 2000s: The Rainbow Children

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Reply #12 posted 07/19/10 1:49pm

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Reply #13 posted 07/19/10 2:29pm

paisleypark4

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vitriol said:

There are several great albums in the 90s.

There's only one great album in the 2000s: The Rainbow Children

:lol: I dont find myself wanting to take out Emancipation and play it all.
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Reply #14 posted 07/19/10 2:33pm

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Prince circa 1991-1995 was pretty cool. But I'll take Prince circa 2001-2010 over the Prince (or prince) of 1996-2000 any day.

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Reply #15 posted 07/19/10 2:41pm

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2000's. 90's Prince had too much hip/hop, new jack swing and too much horns. It took out all the space in Prince's music.

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Reply #16 posted 07/19/10 2:42pm

vitriol

paisleypark4 said:

vitriol said:

There are several great albums in the 90s.

There's only one great album in the 2000s: The Rainbow Children

lol I dont find myself wanting to take out Emancipation and play it all.

And when oh when did I mention Emancipation???

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Reply #17 posted 07/19/10 2:43pm

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thumbs up!

crazydoctor said:

2000's. 90's Prince had too much hip/hop, new jack swing and too much horns. It took out all the space in Prince's music.

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Reply #18 posted 07/19/10 2:48pm

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I say it again......the funk....gone....
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Reply #19 posted 07/19/10 2:50pm

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vitriol said:

paisleypark4 said:

lol I dont find myself wanting to take out Emancipation and play it all.

And when oh when did I mention Emancipation???

Sorry Im at work and my thoughts get cut off because a customer comes in....I accidentally posted that abotu another subject giggle
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Reply #20 posted 07/19/10 3:45pm

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Man... that's a hard one. I really LOVE a lot of tracks from the nineties. I think there was still occasionally some real magic happening up to at least 1995. But I definitely like the full albums of the oughties more.

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Reply #21 posted 07/20/10 9:48am

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Cerebus said:

Man... that's a hard one. I really LOVE a lot of tracks from the nineties. I think there was still occasionally some real magic happening up to at least 1995. But I definitely like the full albums of the oughties more.




I agree..the layouts seem more relaxed. The funk was back...enough sampling and new jack in the 90s. There was waaaay too much of that
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Reply #22 posted 07/20/10 10:02am

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hmmm

A toughie, I'll go with 90s, just based on 90-95 even though 00's had some good stuff, it's dotted around from year to year, nothing as consistent as the Come/Gold era (Undertaker anyone?)... but you know TRC/ONA/Xpectation/NEWS is pretty fucking awesome too. Like I said, a toughie.

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Reply #23 posted 07/20/10 10:03am

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Hmmm, well the 2000s had Musicology and 20TEN and the 90s had Gold, Diamonds and Pearls, O(->, and Grafitti Bridge, so I guess the 90s for me then. But I do like the 2000s too, son't get me wrong

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Reply #24 posted 07/20/10 10:05am

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darmstro said:

Interestingly, just this weekend I got a drunken urge to compare all three major decades of his career. I put together track lists, by decade, of all the songs that I (personally) qualify as exceedingly strong to excellent. Maybe not certifiable classics, but the songs that really matter... again, to me.

I started in the 2000s, and came up with 27 songs. Moved onto the '90s, and came up with 34. The '80s are in a realm all their own, in the high 60s. How many artists have penned 120+ songs that are either truly great, or deeply meaningful to an individual?

When it comes to '90s to 2000s, I'd say the '90s have much greater peaks. There's nothing in the last decade that matches Joy in Repetition, much of the Gold Experience, etc. Yet, I would say that there's something a bit more stylistically coherent about the 2000s for me, whereas there's a flamboyance to the '90s that comes off as a bit more gimmicky as a decade.

So I may have to vote the 2000s, to be honest.

That being said, both decades had ridiculously embarrassing lows - I'd be tough put to determine whether albums (on the whole) like Planet Earth or Chaos and Disorder/Emancipation were more cringe inducing. All three of those albums had at least one track each, however, that made my "great" cut.

27 songs for the 2000s? That's a lot! I couldn't come up with 27 songs.

20ten doesn't count for the 2000s? Or? I really like that cd, besides that, there were only a few songs i really liked from the 2000s.

The 90's had the symbol album (which i love), gold experience (same story) and D&P...i mean, Gett off beats everything he put out these last years!

The end of the 90's weren't too interesting....he lost me there a bit

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Reply #25 posted 07/20/10 10:09am

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His individual good tracks of the 2000s have been much better than his individual good tracks of the 1990s. However, I could tolerate Prince doing things I don't like more back then than I can now. When he would put shit hop tracks on the albums back then, I could tolerate them because I was just holding on and waiting for the 2000s to arrive and waiting for a complete style change in R&B from all artists when a new decade arrived just like we had complete style changes from all artists every other decade prior to the 1990s. But when the 2000s got here and no style change occured, and worse yet, the 2010s are here and still no complete style change in R&B as a whole, I have zero tolerance of Prince making those type of tracks because a style change will never occur if people keep recording those type of songs.

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Reply #26 posted 07/20/10 10:42am

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i think i'll go w/ 1990s because of '92-'95 alone. love

2000s had awesome stuff too, but his 90s albums were better as a whole.

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Reply #27 posted 07/20/10 11:05am

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the 90's was my favorite era of all time for Prince. LOVE IT!!

80s are second

70s third and 2000s last

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Reply #28 posted 07/20/10 12:22pm

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dandeeland said:

the 90's was my favorite era of all time for Prince. LOVE IT!!

80s are second

70s third and 2000s last

I dont really count the 70's...too few albums and songs to really judge that...
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Reply #29 posted 07/20/10 12:31pm

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vainandy said:

His individual good tracks of the 2000s have been much better than his individual good tracks of the 1990s. However, I could tolerate Prince doing things I don't like more back then than I can now. When he would put shit hop tracks on the albums back then, I could tolerate them because I was just holding on and waiting for the 2000s to arrive and waiting for a complete style change in R&B from all artists when a new decade arrived just like we had complete style changes from all artists every other decade prior to the 1990s. But when the 2000s got here and no style change occured, and worse yet, the 2010s are here and still no complete style change in R&B as a whole, I have zero tolerance of Prince making those type of tracks because a style change will never occur if people keep recording those type of songs.

and its funny because alot of people loved his shit hop era ..90-1998...I looonged for the funk to come back, and it finally started a bitwhen he released Rave finally on an album...followed by Prettyman...it seemed like it started getting more funky again with The Everlasting Now, 1+1+1+3, and The Work... Im not sure what you mean but his style definitley shifted when News, Expectation, Rainbow Children came out and all that shit hop stuff discontinued.

Not to say I did not like songs like P Control, Race, Emale, The Max, however it seemed like it was the same TYPE of copied musical style from the 90's with no origination. There was no Prince sound / MInneapolis sound other than his voice and lyrics; however those songs these days sound dated..and so does the 80's stuff; however it sounds dated ALONG with the time. My last straw was some of those High tracks... The Rainbow Children really made me believe that the man was back on his shit.

Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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