robinhood said:

Vendetta1 said:

No, it was not a bait thread. It was an attempt to address something that needed to be addressed here.

says who? Prince & Bria? if there was a serious problem, wouldnt they address it themselves?

is the OP acting on their behalf? does the OP know them personally? does the OP know US personally?

where is the OP now? has his 'curiosity' been satiated? was it genuine in the 1st place?

or was this thread created when the OP took personal issue with what people were saying about women's make-up in another thread?

did the OP not know that this thread would only add fuel to the fire? did he even consider it?

if he was genuinely concerned about the negativity, why would he be negative toward 'us'?

or did he merely take the moral highground in a grand sweeping gesture of misguided heroism of behalf of 2 people he doesnt know?

all of that is totally ok with me, whats not ok with me is bullshit, bait, and trying to shut down the freedom of speech of others, be it negative or not.

but i understand why people feel the need to do it.

Sorry there is no freedom of speech on the org, not true freedom anyways. The rule states not to flame and it's something everyone agreed to when they started.

He asked a question and he probably has not been on here for a while because he's busy or maybe he got tired of no one answering the question like people sometimes do when called on their bullshit.

PicklesMcMillan said:

i believe some people (not myself) have had bad run-ins with her

some like myself just think their is something smug about her judging buy her pictures and interview only ..to me.. everytime i see her in a candid photo shes has this blank ass /look at you peasants stare and she rarely smiles (i think thats why i think she sumggy )

her singing is ok to me but some just dont dig her singing

some dont like her purely because shes with prince lol

some dont like her because she doesn't sing live yet has released a CD

some dont like her because they say she comes on here with 99 aliases

lol johnart so many reasons ... i just cant type them all

shes like paris hilton people love to hate her

Bria is a peasant herself. Her only claim to fame or doing anything worthwhile is being with Prince. She has no talent. She's not smart. She can offer nothing except for her looks. Anyone who would convert to JW to "be with Prince" could never be trusted with anything. It reflects more badly on Prince than it does her, but still, she's quite worthless. Prince likes so-called "gorgeous" women who are weak and will listen to whatever he tells them to do.

Vendetta1 said:

The rule states not to flame and it's something everyone agreed to when they started.

in your opinion, what is this?

futurebaybeemama said:

Forsight said:

I agree with all of your posts prodigal.

You are obviously one of the few with the sight to see the truth.

Im glad you and a few others are so smart.

Whats bothering her is not her rants about some "obsessive psycho". She's only projecting. Whats bothering her is that she's in a corner.

I would love nothing more than for her to prove me wrong. She cant, because Im telling the truth. If you dont believe me, watch her ignore me.

Her and her sister share the account, as well as a few others, along with her Facebook and any other internet galactic adventures they engage in. Most of which are known.

I dont agree with posting online in 3rd person or on behalf of a family member. Let it go. Stop worrying about what people think.

You may think you will create a bandwagon affect. However, it works against you when you have a fan base who knows their Prince so well. Trying to make them like Bria will not work. Not everyone is going to think she is attractive or nice or has a good voice or isnt a gold digger or this and that. Annotations from her and her family explaining why we should, only creates an annoyance and skepticism as to what her motives really are.

I think it is wrong to bad mouth people the way some do online. Its ok to disagree or even criticize but calling them ugly, dissecting them is not ok. Im pro-anti hate. Which is exactly and ironically why Im here.

Bria is a "hater", so are her sisters. She is smug, insecure, conniving and sneaky. No matter who has a hard time seeing it or paying attention.

Some do not care and thats great, but they must know their two cents dont help or add to the equation of the solution.

Anyone who believes this load of BS is a fool. Many orgers, including myself, have been accused of being Bria and it is so tired. You have got it out for her something terrible! It is quite a spectacle to watch. Your intentions are obvious. I hope you get the help you need to find some peace in your own life and let go of this obsession with Bria. I mean that sincerely.

*I* suspect you and that 4jbt..(or whatever the name is) also.

I can't prove it because I don't live MN, and I don't know any insiders. I can read and wasn't born yesterday... and I am naturally skeptical. You and the other name has raised my antenna.

Forsight is correct... if you are trying to some how drum up support... you are too heavy handed and it is having an opposite affect. It is better to be loved by some, unknown by others and apathy by the rest than to have "haters" as some has proclaimed. I don't hate... but anyone who would stoop to the level of posting on your boyfriend's fan website, and getting into net wars with perfect strangers because they don't adore you..... wow... just wow.

If you are not Bria or directly connected to her... you won't be bothered by this or any other post because you know what is true. But you can't stop... because it does bother you.

robinhood said:

Vendetta1 said:

Does anyone else ever wish they hadn't posted to a thread so they would not have to come back to a bunch of BS?

Does anyone else wonder why grown ass people act like this?

it was clearly a bait thread to begin with.

some grown ass folk take the bait.

others grown ass folk are just having fun, i guess.

the whole Prince & Bria subject doesnt seem that serious, at least not to me.

^ right on both posts.

I did respond to defend people who don't adore Bria. And now that I have posted... this thread is on my list. I try to ignore the highlighted threads but I just can't. I have to read it ... and then it is like an argument. My mother always said I could never walk away from an argument... I have to have the last word.

But it is true that it is all in fun. Pure speculation, pure gossip. It takes my mind off of work which is stressful. It is sort of entertaining to read these posts these "fans of Bria" write to prove her relationship to Prince is the real deal. Like it is of any importance to anyone besides Bria and her loved ones.

Truth be told... we could give a shyt. However, you don't want to hear real people's opinions... I say don't ask.

http://prince.org/msg/7/340378

there's another thread...geez.

robinhood said:

Vendetta1 said:

The rule states not to flame and it's something everyone agreed to when they started.

in your opinion, what is this?

johnart said:

what exactly is lacking in someone's life that they must trash and speculate and judge to such a degree?

In which way does this judgment and speculation boost your own life?

How does their relationship (or lack thereof) affect you?

Why do you hate her so? Is it because you wish you were in her shoes?

Do you know them personally? If so, please share!

I'm dying with curiosity.

What is it with you calling anything I post bait/flame???

What is that? Those are questions. That's what they are.

Are you kidding??

You go round posting mocking pics but when I ask an honest question/express my opinion about that sort of behavior it's bait??

Please. Give me a break.

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johnart said:

robinhood said:

What is it with you calling anything I post bait/flame???

What is that? Those are questions. That's what they are.

Are you kidding??

You go round posting mocking pics but when I ask an honest question/express my opinion about that sort of behavior it's bait??

Please. Give me a break.

Another thing...again, I will say this: if you don't go to GD forum you might not be familiar with me, but I'm not a "baiter". When I think something, I just say it outright. I have a big mouth (sometimes gets me in trouble). Ask anyone who knows me.

Baiting is for wimps. I think the questions in this thread were pretty direct.

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johnart said:

Let's face it, we all love a little trash-talkin'. but what exactly is lacking in someone's life that they must trash and speculate and judge to such a degree?

what exactly is lacking in your life that you must speculate and judge 'our' intentions to such a degree?

In which way does this judgment and speculation boost your own life?

in which way does your judgment and speculation boost your own life?

How does their relationship (or lack thereof) affect you?

how does what 'we' say about Prince and Bria affect you?

Why do you hate her so? Is it because you wish you were in her shoes?

why do you hate 'us' so? is it because you wish were in 'our' shoes?

Do you know them personally? If so, please share!

do you know 'us' personally?

I'm dying with curiosity.

'we're' dying with curiosity.

johnart, i understand where ur coming from, but i do agree when you say you have a big mouth.

if Prince and Bria have an issue with the things that get said about them here, maybe its fair to assume they'll address it themselves.

maybe the answer is really very simple johnart: maybe we just cant take them seriously.

maybe we're just having fun at their expense. maybe they deserve it.

maybe some of the things that get said, are actually true.

maybe all the trash talk is a bunch of facts.

at any rate, why does it concern you?

and why would you jump to the conclusion that there must be something lacking in our lives?

why is it OK for you to make that presumption about us, but it's not OK for us to make that presumption about 'Prince and Bria' ?

do any of us have to answer to you? do they have to answer to us? of course not.

its a public discussion forum, most of us are laughing.

if i were to defend anyone, it wouldnt be Prince and Bria, unless of course they are so fragile they need defending?

anyway peace out mate, maid marion is calling.

OMG what's going on here ?

we know there was a lot of spite, disgrace, insult when Prince was with his other ex-wifes.

BUT the thing with Bria seems to be the worst thing for now! I never saw people so angry and

startled about Prince's choise of a woman! Not even with Manuela.

This here is absolutely crazy!

There must be something wrong with this strange couple.

If he would show his love to her at least a bit people could believe him, he is in love with Bria.

Then I like to say "maybe he changed his behavior, not to show the world

who he is in love with, to protect his new love" .

But there is a lot what's going "wrong".

He sings about making *** with his new lover and news telling, they stay in one hotel room but you'll never see them showing a lot of love for one another.

That's why some are saying "because they are JW"

BUT why the hell they stay in one hotel room together?? HUH?

Why singing about *** "what we did last night" we all know what he is singing about...

But everytime I hear or see something from them I can't describe it clearly but I get a weird feeling. And it wasn't like that when he was with other woman. I think a lot of people think like that "there is just something wrong with Bria"

I REALLY don't wanna judge or offend Ms. Fuentes because I absolutely know nothing about her but her CD and that she is possibly with Prince these days.

I never would call her myself a bitch, ugly or whatever people are often say when talking about her.

I hope they are happy, don't making big mistakes, are faithful, and LOVE eatch other.

It does not look like THAT to me!

Blasting through their speakers:

johnart said:

johnart said:

What is it with you calling anything I post bait/flame???

What is that? Those are questions. That's what they are.

Are you kidding??

You go round posting mocking pics but when I ask an honest question/express my opinion about that sort of behavior it's bait??

Please. Give me a break.

Another thing...again, I will say this: if you don't go to GD forum you might not be familiar with me, but I'm not a "baiter". When I think something, I just say it outright. I have a big mouth (sometimes gets me in trouble). Ask anyone who knows me.

Baiting is for wimps. I think the questions in this thread were pretty direct.

[Edited 7/17/10 23:05pm]

I have NEVER seen Johnart bait anyone EVER!

What I dont understand is how some of you "think" you know that Bria is posting here...

And secondly... Why do you care?

johnart said:

johnart said:

What is it with you calling anything I post bait/flame???

What is that? Those are questions. That's what they are.

Are you kidding??

You go round posting mocking pics but when I ask an honest question/express my opinion about that sort of behavior it's bait??

Please. Give me a break.

Another thing...again, I will say this: if you don't go to GD forum you might not be familiar with me, but I'm not a "baiter". When I think something, I just say it outright. I have a big mouth (sometimes gets me in trouble). Ask anyone who knows me.

Baiting is for wimps. I think the questions in this thread were pretty direct.

[Edited 7/17/10 23:05pm]

Johnart, the Bria situation has become one of the most hated girl thread on the org. since I've been on it (way before 2002 when this one was created). Bria doesn't seem to be "perfect" enough for him (too old, too tall, too man looking, terrible singer, ...). There is a war between Bria lovers and Bria haters and they'll fight on any thread related to her. This happened to a lower extent to all of his women as if Prince doesn't belong to anyone but his fans. I wouldn't sweat trying to justify yourself and just let it go...

tinaz said:

And secondly... Why do you care?

The list would go on ...

robinhood said:

johnart said:

Let's face it, we all love a little trash-talkin'. but what exactly is lacking in someone's life that they must trash and speculate and judge to such a degree?

what exactly is lacking in your life that you must speculate and judge 'our' intentions to such a degree?

In which way does this judgment and speculation boost your own life?

in which way does your judgment and speculation boost your own life?

How does their relationship (or lack thereof) affect you?

how does what 'we' say about Prince and Bria affect you?

Why do you hate her so? Is it because you wish you were in her shoes?

why do you hate 'us' so? is it because you wish were in 'our' shoes?

Do you know them personally? If so, please share!

do you know 'us' personally?

I'm dying with curiosity.

'we're' dying with curiosity.

johnart, i understand where ur coming from, but i do agree when you say you have a big mouth.

if Prince and Bria have an issue with the things that get said about them here, maybe its fair to assume they'll address it themselves.

maybe the answer is really very simple johnart: maybe we just cant take them seriously.

maybe we're just having fun at their expense. maybe they deserve it.

maybe some of the things that get said, are actually true.

maybe all the trash talk is a bunch of facts.

at any rate, why does it concern you?

and why would you jump to the conclusion that there must be something lacking in our lives?

why is it OK for you to make that presumption about us, but it's not OK for us to make that presumption about 'Prince and Bria' ?

do any of us have to answer to you? do they have to answer to us? of course not.

its a public discussion forum, most of us are laughing.

if i were to defend anyone, it wouldnt be Prince and Bria, unless of course they are so fragile they need defending?

anyway peace out mate, maid marion is calling.

Firstly, I've never said that it was ok for me to presume or judge.

As a matter of fact I addressed that in the other thread. It happens and I own that it sometimes does.

Secondly, when I ask about speculating and judging to such a degree I am referring to continous, repetitious and relentless behavior (perhaps I should've been clearer). I began discussing this on a different thread and since it took away from the subject of the thread I brought my questions here instead. This is the first time I've asked these questions. I'm not running from Bria thread to Bria thread in her defense (I wouldn't even consider myself a fan, I just was wondering about this severe animocity towards her) so I'm not sure what you're referring to when you try to turn this particular question around on me.

But let's face it, I'm not making presumptions about some nice behavior here. There's nothing nice about relentlessly posting pics of horses and drag queens to put someone down when a simple "I just don't care for her" or "Something about her just bugs the shit out of me" let's everyone know how you feel.

Perhaps I should've asked "is something lacking?" vs. "what is lacking?" though I doubt it would've been taken any differently.

When I see folk pay such dedicated conitinuous negative attention to people they don't know I do wonder if something is lacking that going after a celebrity target substitutes/fullfills.

If nothing is lacking, then the next logical (to me, logical to me, not saying it's logical to all so don't get crazed now ) is that they must just be some mean/bully-type folk. Cause what else would you call it when someone continuously picks on another person who hasn't done anything to them by calling them names and posting insults?

Based on my personal opinions/takes I posted a group of questions, which again, you could've completely skipped and gone on your merry way. The questions apply to many many many posters. This is not a thread that is tailor-made for you.

But somehow, here we are, 3 days later and 5 pages in and you're still on it.

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tinaz said:

What I dont understand is how some of you "think" you know that Bria is posting here...

Read

johnart said:

Actually, I've never said that it was ok for me to presume or judge.

As a matter of fact I addressed that in the other thread. It happens and I own that it sometimes does. But let's face it, I'm not making presumptions about some nice behavior here. There's nothing nice about relentlessly posting pics of horses and drag queens to put someone down when a simple "I just don't care for her" or "Something about her just bugs the shit out of me" let's everyone know how you feel.

Perhaps I should've asked "is something lacking?" vs. "what is lacking?" though I doubt it would've been taken any differently.

When I see folk pay such dedicated conitinuous negative attention to people they don't know I do wonder if something is lacking that going after a celebrity target substitutes/fullfills.

If nothing is lacking, then the next logical (to me, logical to me, not saying it's logical to all so don't get crazed now ) is that they must just be some mean/bully-type folk. Cause what else would you call it when someone continuously picks on another person who hasn't done anything to them by calling them names and posting insults?

Based on my personal opinions/takes I posted a group of questions, which again, you could've completely skipped and gone on your merry way. The questions apply to many many many posters. This is not a thread that is tailor-made for you.

But somehow, here we are, 3 days later and 5 pages in and you're still on it.

i hear you loud and clear. but i still dont understand what other people's motives have to do with you?

unless you really genuinely care and want to somehow help with a compassionate approach?

if anything said here is such a problem for either Prince or Bria, then maybe they'll take care of it themselves...

if they even care? or even read this website?

but if ur gonna take the moral highground over us, please be aware that your own words will come up for critique.

there's not much point dropping a bomb then trying to defend urself if it blows up in your face

take it easy mate, i gotta skip cuz my maid marion wants to use my account now lol

p.s. i dont much like bullies either

Forsight said:

tinaz said:

What I dont understand is how some of you "think" you know that Bria is posting here...

Read

Thanks for explaining yourself so well...

tinaz said:

Forsight said:

Read

Thanks for explaining yourself so well...

Well don't just jump in here and demand an explanation. Go read the Bria threads for the last couple of days and then you'll understand since you aren't accepting what has been said here.

Serena said:

tinaz said:

Thanks for explaining yourself so well...

Well don't just jump in here and demand an explanation. Go read the Bria threads for the last couple of days and then you'll understand since you aren't accepting what has been said here.

I have read them... I see no "proof".. I didnt demand anything.. I am "questioning", Isnt this a discussion forum..

No need to be snarky...

you know what would be oooh so cool?

If we had a "ignore" button here. Then I wouldn't even SEE the posts. So my curiosity would not be piqued.

but I think some people would not like that at all. Some people WANT the publicity... even the bad.

And the ignore button would only last so long. Because it seems like every week, there is a new org member joining and immediately posting the same type of posts about Bria.

tinaz said:

Serena said:

Well don't just jump in here and demand an explanation. Go read the Bria threads for the last couple of days and then you'll understand since you aren't accepting what has been said here.

I have read them... I see no "proof".. I didnt demand anything.. I am "questioning", Isnt this a discussion forum..

No need to be snarky...

Well the information is there, but if you choose not to believe it, that's your choice.

all this bria controversy makes me wanna check out her album again

i guess its true there is no bad press (actually i dont really think thats true) but even so its gettin me curious about her again

i dont get the hate but i will say usually what fans percieve is way way off the mark .. and there really arent a lot of people out there that actually WANT to settle down and get married .. in fact its probably hard for prince cuz most women likely assume hes always got 10 women and confuses it all with his wealth .. so he gets approached by gold diggers and people who just want to say they got it on with prince but it must be hard to wade thru the trash to find the diamond in the ruf .. i kinda doubt all this prince motives philosophy and i doubt all the bria motives philosophy .. they been around each other a long time and seem to even smile sometimes so why not .. i doubt prince is fooling himself that this is THE ONE .. im sure it will take many years before he opens himself fully to that concept .. so they have important things in common and they enjoy each others company .. whats wrong with that .. prince aint no fool he knows nothing lasts forever and its nice that he has some good company

but i'd like to see him hang with some old school company a lil more often .. and i dont mean apollonia

WaterInYourBath said:

robinhood said:

this thread needs a picture

Look at that picture. I mean, just LOOK AT IT!

If he were smiling at the camera, that would be a nice photo. But instead, he's gazing at her like: "Uhh...Why are you grinning like that?" Ha ha ha....This crap is too eff'in funny. LOL.

What are you talking about, he's not even looking at her, he's like like looking down the row or at something else???

IstenSzek said:

y'all are some spitefull motherfckers

let the girl be who she wants to be and dress how she wants to dress. it's not like none

of us have ever had a bad picture taken. for all the pics of yourself you keep you make

a dozen shots you throw out anyway. don't front

i know i'd look like a freaking goblin in half the candid pics the tabloids would take if i'd

be sitting next to prince and trust me, clip on bangs would not save that mess

i've only heard bria talking once, in the tavis interview and she seemed nice enough to

me. they're both adults who seem to like one another a lot. isn't that enough?

personally, i think they're already married, on the dl. probably don't even wear their

rings in public, just to not ad fuel to rumors. but even if they're not. leave them be

For Real!

look, its clear shes with him because of his money and success. and to be fair, the guy is old so she's good for him. she gets money, he gets pussy. fair deal no?

anyway im sure prince doesnt give a toss when people on this forum just slag her off as he's licking her arse ring.