bounce bounce

I love this track.

Wow the thread on this is enormous. I would recommend skipping to about track 65 - turning the volume up to max and then just waiting for it to start - don't watch the tracks skip over - the surprise when the first note kicks in is worth it. Great song - in the old days the listing would of said - "This is just for the purple people"

This song is about the people complaining about the $77 Lotus site. It's in the same vein as F.U.N.K..

BlackCandle said:

Jakeasaurus said:

SavonOsco said:

BlackCandle said:

His flow is clearly based on Biggies from Notorios Thugs. More importantly, track 77? This is aimed at the Beverley Park hatred, which is why it's on here when it doesn't gel with the rest of the album.

sorry to disappoint you, but his flow is based on Santogold's "Creator"...I'll assume you've never heard of her or the song ....

Sorry to disappoint you, but Prince established his rap flow in the 80s. I'll assume you've merely forgotten this and should break out some of his records.

Laydown is funky, danceable, and fun. refreshing track to end the album with. i enjoy it immensely. F#%k what the naysayers think. u can't "validate" an opinion. makes me dance, love the guitar in it, and please don't get into a serious conversation about his "rap" delivery in the song, its SO not appropriate. the style matches the tempo, plain and simple. its not inspired by or copying anyone. P is not a STUDENT of hip hop to know such nuances.

Spinlight said:

SavonOsco said:

BlackCandle said:

His flow is clearly based on Biggies from Notorios Thugs. More importantly, track 77? This is aimed at the Beverley Park hatred, which is why it's on here when it doesn't gel with the rest of the album.

sorry to disappoint you, but his flow is based on Santogold's "Creator"...I'll assume you've never heard of her or the song ....

I almost think the album should have started with this.

SavonOsco said:

Spinlight said:

Sorry to disappoint you, but Prince established his rap flow in the 80s. I'll assume you've merely forgotten this and should break out some of his records.

sorry to disappoint you but I'm talking about Laydown..which is the topic of this thread..in case u forgotten... And Notorious Thugs came out in the late 90's and u admit that he established his flow in the 80's?..yea u know your hip-hop..this discussion is ova

You aren't sorry at all. And I AM disappointed now. Perhaps your reading comprehension is clouded by all that haterade you're drinking.

I'm aware of when Notorious Thugs came out. I'm saying that Prince's flow has nothing to do with either artist being referenced here, so the claim that he is "obviously" basing this song on Notorious BIG or Santigold is erroneous.

Speaking of reading comprehension...go back and read thread reply #392....I replied to that statement..

When he established his rap flow doesnt equate to what he does now..seriously, if you dont see the similarities in Laydown/Creator....we will agree to disagree

And I hope you're not implying that he might not have listened to "creator" and made that type of flow all on his own....cuz he's never rhymed in that style in his life...or since the 80's when you so truly stated

Timmy84 said:

SavonOsco said:

BlackCandle said: sorry to disappoint you, but his flow is based on Santogold's "Creator"...I'll assume you've never heard of her or the song ....

I have to admit, the melody of those lyrics are spot on.

♫ ♫ ♫ ♫...you need to...you need to...you need to...you need lay doooown...♫ ♫ ♫ ♫

I just got this CD last night. I'll admit I'm a little disappointed in it because most of it sounds like tracks that would have surfaced on bootlegs moreso than an official album, but Lavaux and Laydown really do it for me. "Lavaux" takes me back to the Dirty Mind/Controversy sounds, while "Laydown" just rocks. I agree with earlier posts that this should've been the Vikings anthem, not "Purple and Gold".

That line "If your girlfriend didn't have the surgery, maybe she could see what I see" weirds me out..

Either..

1. He's making an unexplaned reference to someone's girlfriend having a surgery with a blood transfusion required. Doesn't work without some subtext and doesn't fit the song context either.

2. Your girlfriend's boob job is so rediculous she can't see past it. Also would work for a nose job.. maybe..

3. A vague reference to eye surgery?

4. A vague reference to getting her tubes tied???

In any case..huh?

one of the things that makes this song as funky as it is,

is the effect and chants of the back up vocs

PurplePartyman said:

That line "If your girlfriend didn't have the surgery, maybe she could see what I see" weirds me out..

Either..

1. He's making an unexplaned reference to someone's girlfriend having a surgery with a blood transfusion required. Doesn't work without some subtext and doesn't fit the song context either.

2. Your girlfriend's boob job is so rediculous she can't see past it. Also would work for a nose job.. maybe..

3. A vague reference to eye surgery?

4. A vague reference to getting her tubes tied???

In any case..huh?

Those lyrics didn't make sense whatsoever.

The Purple Yoda line is cool, but the song is quite bad.

[Edited 8/6/10 13:47pm]

You know the song WAS good until it got to that "surgery" verse. Then it just ended abruptly. I still think it could've been better than it did.

[Edited 8/6/10 13:52pm]

Hips Hips...Bottom Bottom...Hips..Hips.....

datdude said:

Laydown is funky, danceable, and fun. refreshing track to end the album with. i enjoy it immensely. F#%k what the naysayers think. u can't "validate" an opinion. makes me dance, love the guitar in it, and please don't get into a serious conversation about his "rap" delivery in the song, its SO not appropriate. the style matches the tempo, plain and simple. its not inspired by or copying anyone. P is not a STUDENT of hip hop to know such nuances.

I actually dig the song. There are some interesting theories here about Beverly Park and the website fees track 77 is referencing. What was the beef about Beverly Park? Was it about the song on Lotus Flow3r or his home?

Spinlight said:

SavonOsco said:

BlackCandle said: sorry to disappoint you, but his flow is based on Santogold's "Creator"...I'll assume you've never heard of her or the song ....

Sorry to disappoint you, but Prince established his rap flow in the 80s. I'll assume you've merely forgotten this and should break out some of his records.

I agree. I'm not hearing the Santogold comparison as much as I'm hearing Prince doing what he's done many times before. Prince's non-singing vocal rhythm is very evident in MANY of his older songs, going back (at least) to "Irresistible Bitch" (1983) and "Annie Christian" (1981). Also, check out some of his live performances between '88-'93 where he raps, scats, and whatever else. And despite what others might think, Shakespeare didn't take anything from Tupac, period.

Laydown

edgy mid - 90's shmaltz.

unfinished afterthought.

but probably the best song on 20ten.

The more I hear this song, the more I like it. It's growing on me.

jaybendy said:

I love it. As soon as I heard the rap I was like "O WORD?" This is what's hot in the streets now P? It was on repeat for a minute cause I thin it's way too short.

Usually I cringe when people who don't normally rap ATTEMPT to rap, but I think he kinda kicks ass in this song...

Let's do it now, come on boo!

Why do people keep saying Prince don't normally rap. He's done it for at least 20 years. You may not like his old school style, but it sure is rap.

I love this song.

Wall said:

herb4 said:

Anyone dissing this song based on the lyrics is really missing the point.

You tellin' me "Atomic Dog", "Freak O the Week" or, shit, even "Housequake" have anything to say? He's not trying to write "Blowin in the Wind" or "Like a Rolling Stone" here.

Christ, get a sense of humor. "Green eggs and Ham" or "Bow wow wow" are more poigniant and deep somehow than "Purple Yoda"?

This song is banging.

What's up, herb4.

I said earlier 'I'm the purple Yoda, going door to door for Jehovah' is a fine enough line, and you're right, Prince has never been strong at writing lyrics. What separates a song like Laydown from Housequake (and I can't believe this needs to be pointed out for anyone, even here) is that in the latter, Prince created a 4 minute song that was the logical progression of James Brown, Sly Stone, P-Funk and the history of soul vol. 1. Existing within his own universe and at the height of his creative powers, Housequake comes from a very unique place, the mind of Prince. It sounds natural and new all in one shake. The lyrics and delivery aren't culled from the mindless drones buzzing about Prince in the 80's, because Prince was one of very few pop musicians in the history of the art form who had a vision all unto his own. He took all of the synthetic vapidness of the 80's and turned into genuine art.

Laydown meanwhile is a generic Club South Beach banger ripe with both lyrics and vocal delivery that sees a 53 year old Jehovah's Witness doing his best to sound like a man 30 years his junior. Prince is no longer moving in the rarefied air of James Brown and George Clinton, he's now chanting and grinding with the pop pap of today. He's a follower on a leash, trying to get a piece of the populous bone. There's no muse left to follow, apparently, so he's chasing the backsides of the trendy and trite. Could Laydown get the herds moving in club nouveau? Sure, why not? Is the music played in the clubs disposable and ultimately forgettable?

Someone made a brilliant post elsewhere about how Sting is now working on genuine composition and while I'm not a big supporter of Sting's music, it seems a logical progression for a 50 year old who is continuing to explore and learn his craft. Elvis Costello has made similar progressions in his career. If they were like Prince, in a stage of Jehovah Bangin' arrested development, they'd be out there embarrassing themselves, trying to write a Nu-Metal song or some other heinous form of popular music, just to prove 'they can do it.'

Prince needs to think about his future. The man can't even read or write music. I know he'll never do it, but he should take a year off not to study some bronze age cult, but music theory. What's he going to do in ten years? Keep putting out this crap? He's regressing into a modern day Little Richard, his face caked with makeup and his sounds dull with trend.

housequake is almost a brand new genre of music, as was dorothy parker - Laydown (or is ioit facedown?) will be easily forgotton. Dont get me wrong, i dont mind the song, but its pointless jast like everything else on 2010.