"different and strange"...? U had The Rainbow Children & ONA acoustic....Let me guess,u didn't like them!! Sometimes i'm confused about what some people may xpect from our Man....jeezzzzzzz The Ignorant asserts,The learned doubts,The wise thinks.
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Thanks murph. Tricky and blackbob I'm with ya as well. Just listened again last night and still think 20Ten is a great album. It's funny because it's essentially an RnB album bookended with 2 rock/pop tunes.Compassion/Everybody Loves Me. Lay it Down excluded. Tracks 2-8 is pure Prince RnB, Soul, Funk and a bit of gospel. And to my ears it works better than most of 3121. Just my opinion folks. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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It's all good....And i'll say it again....20TEN is not even remotely "great" in my eyes...In fact, there are some holes on this album....But it works for the most part because Prince seems to be embracing his sound without a hint of being contrived (think the likes of the lackluster and boring and silly "Chocolate Box")...I'll take a "fun" Prince album over a look-ma-no-hands musical masturbation work (News) anytime ...
I played this album for a friend of mine who jumped off the Prince wagon after the release of Purple Rain...He, like a lot of the oldschool fans dug Prince's 78-82 output more than his Revolution era stuff (I happen to like both...but that's another story)...Right away he liked most of the tracks on the album....When I asked him why he said, "This is a Prince album..."
It was simple and to the point....His comment hit me....It's all about what "Prince" first turned you on 1st....
If you started to dig Prince during the early years, then later albums like PR, Around The World In A Day and Parade sounded foreign to your ears...If you got turned on by the more diverse, chance-taking ATWIAD, Parade, and Sign O The Times, you are more prone to think For You, Prince, Dirty Mind, and Controversy were pedestrian, and at times demo-like efforts...If you were turned on by Chaos & Disorder or Rainbow Children, you probably like your Prince weird and musically out there and a bit insular...And if you got hooked on him with Musicology, you probably like the more polished, populist-driven "songwriter" Prince than the straight-no-chaser synth-funk of 20TEN....
I'm sure there are some folks who don't dig 20TEN because they think it's just not good...But I'm willing to bet that most of these folks ripping the album are doing so because Prince is not giving them the particular musical style that first turned them on....
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The Rainbow Children was one of his best albums. I just wish he would have not veered back into easily accesible pop/r&b/funk music that he has in the past 3 albums.....its lazy. 'Love will be your Soldier' - Nikka Costa
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i kind of enjoyed it the first couple of times but it got shallow and pointless very quickly and now i hate it. waiting for the next album now. | |
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! | |
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The Rainbow Children was a
PEICE
OF
SHIT
how come people cant get this obvious thought into their heads???
let me say it again
PEICE
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Is it because the songs are built on past 80's songs? 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment | |
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While I myself like Lovesexy, it is definitely the album that took me the longest to get into. The mastering job on the cd version sounds like absolute ass. Also, I have never been able to get ANYONE into Lovesexy, ever. It is the only Prince record that is universally panned by everyone I know. On the other hand, several people I have played 20ten for have really enjoyed it immediately. | |
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i dont care if other people dont like lovesexy, i like it. the record was played at a supertrendy shop about 5 years after it was released and it sounded fucking cool. This is the thing, Lovesexy is fucking cool, its attiude, its class, intelligence, its interesting, its pure. Those who dont "get" it dont want to go down that journey. | |
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FUCK I FORGOT MY FKUCKING SPLEL CHEKER | |
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Definately picks up where MPLSound left off. The suit fits and he likes it. Its so Miineapolitan(is that a word) it makes you want more. Makes you wanna sell the criib, get a big coat, move to Minneapolis and start a band. They have the most pleasant, lush, pretty, upbeat, funky, greasy sound in music. Good stuff | |
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Naw man, his 80s material had serious substance. Poppy 20ten gets tiring very fast. What confuses me is that Lotusflow3r is totally listenable still... he always fluxuates with formulas.. never is steady.. "Not to sound cosmic, but I've made plans for the next 3,000 years," he says. "Before, it was only three days at a time." | |
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i think a lot of people are really getting it so totally wrong.PRINCE is first and foremost making the kind of music HE wants to make.obviously he is pleased with it, otherwise he wouldn't have released it.if we luv it ,we luv it,if we like it,we like it,and if we hate it ,well then we hate it.i look at all these "xperts" and i think wow! who is anybody to tell the man (and any artist for that matter)how to write,produce and market his work?he does it the way he wants ,it's his.take what u like and leave the rest.it's being forced on no one.i have never come across a prince cd that didn'have several songs i luved.if i didn't absolutely luv a song ,i didn't whine and complain and opined on how it could've been arranged differently.the music is in his head ,he has to let it out.this is what it is all about. i luv the man's voice ,he could sing a nursery rhyme ,scream,or croon a sexy ballad and i would be in PRINCEheaven.i also luv his varied musical styles ,so i have absolutetly no issues with his output. | |
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well i am still playing 20ten on heavy rotation and it has got stronger for me.......its just a solid funky album for me......there are tracks here that would easily fit onto his 80s albums ....i dont think it is as good as any of his 80s albums apart from maybe batman but its a good album and i am happy with it.....i would like to see him stretch a bit muscially for his next project but 20ten is up there with lotusflower album as the best he has done since the gold experience in 95......20ten is better than 3121 , mplsound , musicology , rainbow children ( i loved the organic production and feel on rainbow but , for me , it badly lacks some decent tunes....no really strong songs on it apart from maybe the last song ) and everything else he has released in the last decade or so....... . as far as comparing it to lovesexy......lovesexy is a bit overrated for me by fans....i like the album but it in no way compares to sign o the times...lovesexy was overproduced imo and while it is a better album overall than 20ten......it is not a huge gap in quality imo........20ten is as funky as hell.....beginning endlessly and future soul song are as good as most of his 80s output.....no doubt about that...... . . TAKE ME TO THE VINEYARDS OF LAUVAX ....DA DA DA DA DAAAA...... | |
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That maybe, but can you not hear the 80's song(s) in 20ten in which he crafted the "new" music from. It is rather blatant lift from his past 80's music. 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment | |
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I certainly have enjoyed reading all of the reviews on 20TEN. It is always funny to me that every time a new Prince album comes out, there are just as many people who Love it, that hate it. This is not a bad thing to me. it just proves the broad spectrum and reach that Prince has with his music. That's why we can never really count any song out as "filler" (a word that I hate), because in the Prince world, truly, one man's trash is another man's treasure!
Having said that, I have been playing 20TEN for over a week now, and I LOVE IT! I disagree with the notion that it was just "thrown together". There are PLENTY of little details in this musical piece that are to good to have been rushed. The Vocal layering, the guitar accents, even the WAY that he used the Linn is very natual and unforced. There is a refreshing freedom to this album that even though it is reminisant of the Controversy/ 1999 era, It still feels new. His songwriting is nice as well.
Just a few notes and I'm Through:
Compassion reminds me of Play in the sunshine/ Can't Stop this feeling I Got
Beginning endlessly is nice
Future Soul Song is an instant classic
Sticky like glue is my fav of the moment
Act of God makes me think of 1+1+1 is 3
Lavaux is today's Life can be so nice
Walk in sand takes me to another place
Sea of everything is sexy sweet
Everybody Loves me reminds me of Ronnie talk to Russia
Laydown could be on the Black album
Anyway, I can't get enough of it! Just my 2 and a half cents.
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I agree with this 100%. Tracks 2-8: Beginning Endlessly Future Soul Song Sticky Like Glue Act of God Lavaux Walk in Sand Sea of Everything
Flow together so well and have a great sound to them and I can listen to them without wanting to skip a track. I'd even go as far to to say the trio of Beginning Endlessly / Future Soul Song / Sticky Like Glue are 3 of his best songs for a long time and I cant remember 3 better songs in sequence on a Prince album for a while.
The other 3 tracks - Compassion - dont like it and is a bad opener IMO Everybody Loves Me - is that bad its almost good, someone said Yo Gabba Gabba and thats spot on! Laydown - different to rest of the album and thats probably why its tagged on as a hidden track
Compared to albums like Rave, Musicology, 3121 which mostly aim to be commercial, 20ten doesnt (apart from maybe Laydown), and it actually sounds like 'an album' unlike Planet Earth.
There's only really 2 or 3 songs off each of the likes of Rave, Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth, Lotus that I still listen to but after a week of 20ten I think its got a few more long term tracks on it for me.
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After a week+ digesting it I really like this album. Agree with some of the above posts, my favourites are: Beginning Endlessly Stickly Like Glue Lavaux Walking in Sand Sea Of Everything 77 (Should of been the opening track) [Edited 7/19/10 2:54am] FUNKNROLL! "February 2014, wow". 'dre. | |
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just a quick note: Prince's tone in "Laydown" reminds me a lot of the way he sounds in "FaceDown."
Was Prince intentionally trying to sound contemporay in "Laydown." I do not know, but what I can say is that (in response to previous comments) before there was Andre, or Outkast or the Peas for that matter, there was Prince laying down the roots.
The fact that "Laydown" features last on the release could also be interpreted as I have gone "retro" in the previous jams, but if I want to, I can do this...
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20ten hasn't won over my teenagers. people i know who are not prince fans have described it as old hat but i really love it, consistantly lovely. i wish hot summer was on here! | |
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it is not possible for Prince to satisfy every1...I think he sings this in one of his new jams.
you get folks who moan about how great Prince's sound was back in the day, compared to now...
...then when he goes retro, those same folks complain about him not sounding curren enough...
but as long as he keeps singing songs like "everybody loves me" for the fun of it, those who cannot play an instrument or sing a note but are masters in downloading illegal music will always be left wondering:
"huh, humph, ho, hee...there's no stopping this genius atoll"
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It hasnt won mine over either, there leaving there teens soon and they still see it as just mum's old boring Prince stuff again but saying that my best mate who use to be a Prince fan when we was teens, asked me about this album, which i've gotta give to her tomorrow but im afraid to give it her lol. her and hubby are into heavy metal/blues etc so now all she hears in her head really(and the rest of occassional fans) is 80s Prince, so i dont think its gonna go down too well. i think i should just burn lotusflower and give that to them instead for now, just to easy them in
Yeah i love it, missing the hot summer already!
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Trsust me, they're not going to like it...I played it for some of my younger cousins, and by the second song they were banging their heads against the wall asking me to put on Justin Bieber. | |
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true.. it's interesting though how what does it 4 some does not do it 4 others?.. why some get it & others don't . i have no huge expectations of prince, i love what i've been hearing over the past 3 years since entering the purple dimension & loving every minute exploring past & present | |
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hhaaaha! i know, tragic! i can't repeat what my son says & my daughter had a look on her face like torture. i was really disappointed cuz thought they might be impressed by something on it. nothing. although my daughter LOVES 'parade' album | |
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You're lucky that she even likes Parade...the "oldest schoolest" I can get from them is to listen to Bohemian Rhapsody from Glee. Then they listen to the original one and say that it sucks and that this Glee thing did it better. | |
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i know that feeling.. did your friend ever hear/like planet earth? for me 20ten has a similar feel.. & while i think lflow3r is a cool album 20ten was more likeable 1st listen.. i'd stick with giving her 20ten! we know she wants 2 be dragged back in2 da purple clutches | |
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Last night, I was getting ready to go to bed, went into the bathroom and could hear Act of God. Being played loudly.
I looked out of the window and found that my neighbour who lives across had his door open and was blaring it out proudly. haha. He's about 60+, and I wouldn't have expected him to like it. So does my mum who's 65, so maybe this old school sound he's revisiting does have an audience after all
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