this post got me thinking i think im gonna start another one

nursev said:

I really wish he would just go back to not doing interviews at all-then there would be nothing for these folks to criticize daily here Maybe people would be happy then

I would like that too but I don't think even that will make them happy.

mike123 said:

i mean, is this a fan site or a hater site. seems like he gets way more hate and passive aggresive opinions about him on here. i think he might be broken hearted about it all. we should all be her 2 love him and his music, not constsntly tea him down. Last straw was reading this long write up about his latest internet comments as usual with these haters its starts with some fake love, " no everyone know Prince is one of my musical heroes....." then just ends up as the usual hate article about he is out of touch, cant make good music anymore, rewriting history etc. really is a shame.

Given that Prince declared war on some members of his own fanbase when he and his lawyers damn nearly have all Prince-fansites (including THIS one) shut down a while back, excuse flipping me for having reasonable doubts about Prince being broken hearted about people.

mike123 said:

i mean, is this a fan site or a hater site. seems like he gets way more hate and passive aggresive opinions about him on here. i think he might be broken hearted about it all. we should all be her 2 love him and his music, not constsntly tea him down. Last straw was reading this long write up about his latest internet comments as usual with these haters its starts with some fake love, " no everyone know Prince is one of my musical heroes....." then just ends up as the usual hate article about he is out of touch, cant make good music anymore, rewriting history etc. really is a shame.

i'm a friendly fan (except, i like to mock the way he plays the same two songs agains and again. except for that, though, i am amazingly loyal).

however, i am truly stymied about the latest, the announcement that the 'internet is over'.

not to mention, the website is gone.

how do you think we will be able to purchase the neqw album here in america?

after you answer this question for me, then spend a moment thinking: has prince let his fans down?

thank you. that is all

NoVideo said:

The better question would be: has Prince let his fans down?

Or have we forgotten.... screwing fans over multiple times with scam websites. Suing fan sites. Abandoning projects shortly after their release. Performing the same lazy setlists over and over again.

Prince should be grateful that as many fans have stuck with him through all the BS because of the love of his music.

Look at it THIS way:

Unlike Michael & Madonna, Prince was NEVER YouTube-friendly for the sake of his fanbase.

Prince has let us down many times. It's only fair.

TonyVanDam said:

Given that Prince declared war on some members of his own fanbase when he and his lawyers damn nearly have all Prince-fansites (including THIS one) shut down a while back, excuse flipping me for having reasonable doubts about Prince being broken hearted about people.

he threatened to sue, because his fans totally trashed Planet Earth, no respect given, not a single ounce.

he couldnt understand how his fans could speak that way about a musical authority such as himself.

i dunno, maybe that's his problem, thinks he so high and mighty, which as a musician he may be.

maybe if he's stayed off the drugs and the megalomania things might've been different.

it's on both sides. Respect all around if everyone gives it. If not...you get exactly what you see here.

I would say it's more on Prince than it is us but if any fault can be placed on fans, it's those that blindly take his messages on face value as if they're truth or something. Like I said, the man says everything in riddles. How can you say one thing and do another? Like one minute you're praising the internet, the next you're claiming it's over because of the numbers and "the weird gadgets"? Then you have fans who still blindly think that he's gonna come a record that's remotely like "Sign O' the Times". So I can see how fans are let down but I really don't think Prince cares. YouTube may be cruel in some degree but they can open you to a new audience and Prince doesn't understand that. That old model that he's all of a sudden champion again (when he initially rebelled against it) is never coming back like he thinks. But honestly I don't even think he believes what comes out of his mouth. If anything the only doors he's opened is a can of worms these days. So Prince shouldn't be surprised that his fan base is pretty much divided these days than they probably were in the '80s.

Sweething said:

1. People are quick to take Prince's statements at face value; however as the Blog mentioned in another thread alludes....folks should think about the full implication of what Prince is saying, it does make sense (if you stop drinking the koolaid and think). Some "critics" are lazy at best and just want a reason to continue their rant against Prince.

2. On that note, its obvious that there are some (on this board) and others I'm sure who've gotten "bit" or perceived they've been bitten by Prince....they're bitter and they make it their goal in life to try to return the favor.

3. Its hard for some to understand that it is impossible to "own" someone who is intelligent, beautifull and free. Yet some try and inevitably end up frustrated. In the end they simply build ill-will with the person the're trying to possess. Some "regulars" on this board act as if they want to "control" Prince, they know what's best for him....they say their fans or fams and they dig his music, but really, they are envious of him.

Some days I wish I'd have been "bitter" and "envious" of Prince back in the 90's, when there weren't any sweet things around to enlighten me on my bitter enviousness. When I think of the money I could have saved, NOT buying his music, DVD's, website subscriptions, concert tickets, posters, t-shirts, key chains...etc.

I just wanna go...

TonyVanDam said:

NoVideo said:

The better question would be: has Prince let his fans down?

Or have we forgotten.... screwing fans over multiple times with scam websites. Suing fan sites. Abandoning projects shortly after their release. Performing the same lazy setlists over and over again.

Prince should be grateful that as many fans have stuck with him through all the BS because of the love of his music.

Look at it THIS way:

Unlike Michael & Madonna, Prince was NEVER YouTube-friendly for the sake of his fanbase.

Absolutely NEVER for the sake of his fanbase but he damn sure is YouTube-friendly NOW!

Zannaloaf said:

it's on both sides. Respect all around if everyone gives it. If not...you get exactly what you see here.

he's never going to respect anyone, he doesnt have the ability to genuinely care.

he doesnt even respect JEHOVAH - the God he proclaims as his own.

its all just emotional and spiritual vanity for him.

people been trynna figure this guy out for decades but the answer is so simple.

look up the definition for 'sociopath' and see if that shoe fits.

he fucks his girlfriend all up in Jehovah's face,

is so utterly self-consumed he can't see past his own dick and wallet anymore

most of his brain-cells are in his penis

and whichever ones remain in his skull, he kills em with drugs

musical genius sociopath constantly demands love respect and attention

has NEVER given anyone anything without expecting something in return

has NO respect for authority, or social etiquette

was ONCE a brilliant musician due to his schizophrenic nature he could do most anything

but back it up with some real smarts and authentic respect for others?

forget it. he's a sex-addict fronting as a JW to make himself look good.

couldnt even thank anyone for his Lifetime Achievement award...

oh no see it was all about him and how he and he alone was to make the grand sweeping decision that 'music is in good hands'

i mean seriously, 30 years in showbiz and NO ONE ever whipped that scrawny ass of his into some humility?

all the girls are totally ga ga over his looks and fake lyrics about how great a lover he is

because he's got em all fooled so bad by his false public image. mister romeo? i dont think so

2 failed marriages and a girlfriend he walks in front of?

yeah he really know how to treat a woman.

got a mouth on him bigger than a terrorist plot to take out the whole world

makes cruddy albums expecting everyone to kiss his ass because he's 'Prince' ?

why dont he go kiss his own ass, pay himSELF all the money he wants

and leave the world alone?

oh, because he's still got great music to share?

HOPE SO

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

TonyVanDam said:

Look at it THIS way:

Unlike Michael & Madonna, Prince was NEVER YouTube-friendly for the sake of his fanbase.

Absolutely NEVER for the sake of his fanbase but he damn sure is YouTube-friendly NOW!

I noticed that too. He knew that YouTube is free publicity. Like I said, watch, next thing you know he'll be back posting his new album online because he doesn't trust tabloids. JUST WATCH!

robinhood said:

TonyVanDam said:

Given that Prince declared war on some members of his own fanbase when he and his lawyers damn nearly have all Prince-fansites (including THIS one) shut down a while back, excuse flipping me for having reasonable doubts about Prince being broken hearted about people.

he threatened to sue, because his fans totally trashed Planet Earth, no respect given, not a single ounce.

he couldnt understand how his fans could speak that way about a musical authority such as himself.

i dunno, maybe that's his problem, thinks he so high and mighty, which as a musician he may be.

maybe if he's stayed off the drugs and the megalomania things might've been different.

In fairness, I never brought another Prince album since 3121.

And from what a lot of people have said about Planet Earth, I don't think I was missing much of anything.

SPOOKYGAS said:

PurpleColossus said:

You seem to like to do it, the person who thinks Rainbow Children is a "classic" Prince album

Your point being?

You listed "Trying to equate Prince 2 my life!" as your hobby.

You say you don't listen to other artists music because "There is no need I'm a follower of the man."

"Kiss Prince on the ass...do U actually think he wants a fams tongue and mouth on his ass..(arse)?" you say?

Looks like your doing it yourself.

Oh, and judging from your other posts, your a douche of a poster

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

TonyVanDam said:

Look at it THIS way:

Unlike Michael & Madonna, Prince was NEVER YouTube-friendly for the sake of his fanbase.

Absolutely NEVER for the sake of his fanbase but he damn sure is YouTube-friendly NOW!

I'll believe that the first time I see Purple Rain (the movie) is its entirely on YouTube and that YT member's account doesn't get suspended.

robinhood said:

Zannaloaf said:

it's on both sides. Respect all around if everyone gives it. If not...you get exactly what you see here.

he's never going to respect anyone, he doesnt have the ability to genuinely care.

he doesnt even respect JEHOVAH - the God he proclaims as his own.

its all just emotional and spiritual vanity for him.

people been trynna figure this guy out for decades but the answer is so simple.

look up the definition for 'sociopath' and see if that shoe fits.

he fucks his girlfriend all up in Jehovah's face,

is so utterly self-consumed he can't see past his own dick and wallet anymore

most of his brain-cells are in his penis

and whichever ones remain in his skull, he kills em with drugs

musical genius sociopath constantly demands love respect and attention

has NEVER given anyone anything without expecting something in return

has NO respect for authority, or social etiquette

was ONCE a brilliant musician due to his schizophrenic nature he could do most anything

but back it up with some real smarts and authentic respect for others?

forget it. he's a sex-addict fronting as a JW to make himself look good.

couldnt even thank anyone for his Lifetime Achievement award...

oh no see it was all about him and how he and he alone was to make the grand sweeping decision that 'music is in good hands'

i mean seriously, 30 years in showbiz and NO ONE ever whipped that scrawny ass of his into some humility?

all the girls are totally ga ga over his looks and fake lyrics about how great a lover he is

because he's got em all fooled so bad by his false public image. mister romeo? i dont think so

2 failed marriages and a girlfriend he walks in front of?

yeah he really know how to treat a woman.

got a mouth on him bigger than a terrorist plot to take out the whole world

makes cruddy albums expecting everyone to kiss his ass because he's 'Prince' ?

why dont he go kiss his own ass, pay himSELF all the money he wants

and leave the world alone?

oh, because he's still got great music to share?

HOPE SO

robinhood said:

Zannaloaf said:

it's on both sides. Respect all around if everyone gives it. If not...you get exactly what you see here.

he's never going to respect anyone, he doesnt have the ability to genuinely care.

he doesnt even respect JEHOVAH - the God he proclaims as his own.

its all just emotional and spiritual vanity for him.

people been trynna figure this guy out for decades but the answer is so simple.

look up the definition for 'sociopath' and see if that shoe fits.

he fucks his girlfriend all up in Jehovah's face,

is so utterly self-consumed he can't see past his own dick and wallet anymore

most of his brain-cells are in his penis

and whichever ones remain in his skull, he kills em with drugs

musical genius sociopath constantly demands love respect and attention

has NEVER given anyone anything without expecting something in return

has NO respect for authority, or social etiquette

was ONCE a brilliant musician due to his schizophrenic nature he could do most anything

but back it up with some real smarts and authentic respect for others?

forget it. he's a sex-addict fronting as a JW to make himself look good.

couldnt even thank anyone for his Lifetime Achievement award...

oh no see it was all about him and how he and he alone was to make the grand sweeping decision that 'music is in good hands'

i mean seriously, 30 years in showbiz and NO ONE ever whipped that scrawny ass of his into some humility?

all the girls are totally ga ga over his looks and fake lyrics about how great a lover he is

because he's got em all fooled so bad by his false public image. mister romeo? i dont think so

2 failed marriages and a girlfriend he walks in front of?

yeah he really know how to treat a woman.

got a mouth on him bigger than a terrorist plot to take out the whole world

makes cruddy albums expecting everyone to kiss his ass because he's 'Prince' ?

why dont he go kiss his own ass, pay himSELF all the money he wants

and leave the world alone?

oh, because he's still got great music to share?

HOPE SO

well consider himself lucky

nursev said:

I really wish he would just go back to not doing interviews at all-then there would be nothing for these folks to criticize daily here Maybe people would be happy then

That would never happen. They'd just dig up some older picture and start athread abouthis hair or lack thereof again. I think the downtime thread of the summer will be about the shirt he has been wearing with him on it. It seem to deeply offend some people on here.

HonestMan13 said:

nursev said:

I really wish he would just go back to not doing interviews at all-then there would be nothing for these folks to criticize daily here Maybe people would be happy then

That would never happen. They'd just dig up some older picture and start athread abouthis hair or lack thereof again. I think the downtime thread of the summer will be about the shirt he has been wearing with him on it. It seem to deeply offend some people on here.

robinhood said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Sweething said:

1. People are quick to take Prince's statements at face value; however as the Blog mentioned in another thread alludes....folks should think about the full implication of what Prince is saying, it does make sense (if you stop drinking the koolaid and think). Some "critics" are lazy at best and just want a reason to continue their rant against Prince.

2. On that note, its obvious that there are some (on this board) and others I'm sure who've gotten "bit" or perceived they've been bitten by Prince....they're bitter and they make it their goal in life to try to return the favor.

3. Its hard for some to understand that it is impossible to "own" someone who is intelligent, beautifull and free. Yet some try and inevitably end up frustrated. In the end they simply build ill-will with the person the're trying to possess. Some "regulars" on this board act as if they want to "control" Prince, they know what's best for him....they say their fans or fams and they dig his music, but really, they are envious of him.

Some days I wish I'd have been "bitter" and "envious" of Prince back in the 90's, when there weren't any sweet things around to enlighten me on my bitter enviousness. When I think of the money I could have saved, NOT buying his music, DVD's, website subscriptions, concert tickets, posters, t-shirts, key chains...etc.

I just wanna go...

Hi, first may I say that my comment was not directed at any one person.

In your response however I think you're saying that you've "invested" your hard-earned cash, possibly even sacrificed (finacially and/or personally) at times as a fan over the last twenty years; I get that. But in those twenty years didn't you get what you "paid" for in the form of music that you chose to buy. Didn't you attend some funky concerts and now have memories and good times to think and talk about?

I don't understand how then Prince is responsible to any one of us outside of what he's doing--making music and living his life? What other expectation could one have from him?

Honestly, I mean no disrespect and I'm not trying to be mean in any way.

No?

Playing and listening to a record is not a compilcated thing to me (laugh) I come to this fan site to be among folks who are fans of Prince Music, who like to share positve things about what`s going on now and in the future.

I think Prince fans are as selfish and self centered as he is. They claim to be his lawyer, doctor, accountant, manager, pastor, parent, psychiatrist, and lover.

Both sides just need to get the fuck over themselves.

Sweething said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Some days I wish I'd have been "bitter" and "envious" of Prince back in the 90's, when there weren't any sweet things around to enlighten me on my bitter enviousness. When I think of the money I could have saved, NOT buying his music, DVD's, website subscriptions, concert tickets, posters, t-shirts, key chains...etc.

I just wanna go...

Hi, first may I say that my comment was not directed at any one person.

In your response however I think you're saying that you've "invested" your hard-earned cash, possibly even sacrificed (finacially and/or personally) at times as a fan over the last twenty years; I get that. But in those twenty years didn't you get what you "paid" for in the form of music that you chose to buy. Didn't you attend some funky concerts and now have memories and good times to think and talk about?

I don't understand how then Prince is responsible to any one of us outside of what he's doing--making music and living his life? What other expectation could one have from him?

Honestly, I mean no disrespect and I'm not trying to be mean in any way.

No?

In all honesty...not always! I've been to concerts where he either showed up late or threw a hissy fit over a stage prop not working the way he wanted and just left the stage midway through the show. I've gotten CD's of his protege' of the month, that I could not have cared less about.

A whole lot of the time, I just bought things for no other reason but to be a supportive fan of Prince because I'd watched more than a few of my favorite artists fade into the sunset and end up broke because they were no longer popular on the radio and charts and their fans abandoned them.

I take full responsibility for my decisions to do that.

However, hindsight is 20/20 and if I knew back in the '90's, that I was just gonna end up being an old, bitter, envious, hater on the internet. I'm sure I could have found something much better to do with my money!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Sweething said:

Hi, first may I say that my comment was not directed at any one person.

In your response however I think you're saying that you've "invested" your hard-earned cash, possibly even sacrificed (finacially and/or personally) at times as a fan over the last twenty years; I get that. But in those twenty years didn't you get what you "paid" for in the form of music that you chose to buy. Didn't you attend some funky concerts and now have memories and good times to think and talk about?

I don't understand how then Prince is responsible to any one of us outside of what he's doing--making music and living his life? What other expectation could one have from him?

Honestly, I mean no disrespect and I'm not trying to be mean in any way.

No?

In all honesty...not always! I've been to concerts where he either showed up late or threw a hissy fit over a stage prop not working the way he wanted and just left the stage midway through the show. I've gotten CD's of his protege' of the month, that I could not have cared less about.

A whole lot of the time, I just bought things for no other reason but to be a supportive fan of Prince because I'd watched more than a few of my favorite artists fade into the sunset and end up broke because they were no longer popular on the radio and charts and their fans abandoned them.

I take full responsibility for my decisions to do that.

However, hindsight is 20/20 and if I knew back in the '90's, that I was just gonna end up being an old, bitter, envious, hater on the internet. I'm sure I could have found something much better to do with my money!

........like buy some books to read.

Some of the people who are more demonstrative in their displeasure of Prince's behavior are just as egocentric and have just as much a need to make themselves the center of attention as he does.

It's almost like they're funhouse mirror images of each other.

The main ones here who give Prince the most shit for his ego and mistreatment of fans are the biggest, smuggest, know-it-all, "I'm better than you, I'm smarter than you".

Just the shear nerve of these people who post here and CONSTANTLY, CONSTANTLY state their opinion as if it's fact!!!

They're the most annoying, elitist, snobbish, egregious motherfuckers on the face of the planet!!!

They're the people who think if you actually have the nerve to like Prince's more recent output. Or if you don't think Prince's recent issues with the internet are grounds for immediate execution, there's something wrong with you!!!

They're the ones who constantly bitch about how Prince is being "controlled" or "brainwashed" by his religion. But, the reason why they're so pissed off is because THEY want to be the one to control him.

We know who they are.

They're the assholes who try to compare being a Prince fan to being an abused spouse.

Which, when you think about it is extremely offensive.

They're just loud, and type any bullshit they can think of because they like the sound of their fingers striking the keyboard.

Paris9748430 said:

I think Prince fans are as selfish and self centered as he is. They claim to be his lawyer, doctor, accountant, manager, pastor, parent, psychiatrist, and lover.

Both sides just need to get the fuck over themselves.

You said nothing but the truth right there.

I have been negative in the past... but listening to his records now... no one else for me comes close to providing enjoyable music as consistently as him.

I think he's grown as an artist, and I'll continue listening.

Critics and other fans seldom like the same stuff I do. To my ears, most of what I hear from Prince is good.

and his new album is great. cant stop listening 2 it.