Graycap23 said:

The EYE of the Beholder is blind

When I take 2 steps 4ward in the back of his '84 mind

The Prince of 1984 is gone

Replaced by the now......and the cellular phone.

If u wish 2 still get yo kicks

I suggest u a take a lick...........of 20ten.

It will be out in 1 week

And u can listen.........again, and again......and again.

I think he would appreciate his future self's music, but would have been put off by the religious restrictions. He probably would have stopped doing so many splits, seeing as he now needs hip replacements.

Genesia said:

Is there any 20-something who wouldn't look at their 50-something self with a combination of amusement and horror?

i would

im so cool now i cant imagine myself at 50 i just cant

ThirdStrike said:

I think the 1984 Prince would be more pissed off at the price of GAS in 2010 moreso then anything else...Oh, and the tragedy of the Raiders moving out of L.A. and back to Oakland. Now the 1984 Strike is pissed at the 2010 Strike! A'hole!!!!

oh and a black president

he would shit his pants

robinhood said:

Graycap23 said:

The EYE of the Beholder is blind

When I take 2 steps 4ward in the back of his '84 mind

The Prince of 1984 is gone

Replaced by the now......and the cellular phone.

If u wish 2 still get yo kicks

I suggest u a take a lick...........of 20ten.

It will be out in 1 week

And u can listen.........again, and again......and again.

i love this response. the org is a great place to find out whats going on in the world of prince and i love it for that, but what i can't stand is the constant ''he's not as great as he used to be'' type attitude so many people here have.. prince is an ARTIST and a MUSICIAN he is not a cookie cutter singer who remains stagnant and the same. The whole point in art is to express yourself and where you are with your life... if prince was still at the same point in his life as he was 26 years ago then there would be a real problem and his music would be ridiculous as he would have no new experiences or life experience or issues close to his heat to feel passionate about. the prince of 1984 would have laughed at the prince of 2010 if he was exactly the same as he was back then.. 25 years of being a superstar and a human life with nothing to show for it, nothing new or fresh to contribute. i thank god for the fact that the prince of 2010 is who he is today because if he wasn't not only would he be in a mess but i would be bored, change is good, so many people here don't seem to get that. 20ten is a new prince album and you should be grateful he still has the drive and the music within him to carry on giving.. you are all like this because his output has spoilt you, you have bizarre expectations and don't appear able to appreciate the music anymore. If you don't like it, leave. because there are plenty of us that do. i have NEVER heard a prince album i didn't like, not out of blind 'famdom' but because i genuinely enjoy his music and his journey. 20ten will be out in a week as 'graycap' has pointed out, and i'm sure there are many of you who can't wait to be 'disappointed' just so you have something to rant about. i can't wait to hear the new music because it's NEW. a concept which so many people here clarly are too uncmfortable to embrace. change is good. the prince of 1984 wouldn't have laughed at the prince of 2010 because prince wasn't and isn't blinkered. prince is prince and the more he evolves the more i love him for it.

Onthereal said:

robinhood said:

the absolute worst stories about Prince would be no surprise to me. got a gut feeling he knows the score too.

i got a theory that a lot of folks will most likely recoil in horror when they hear it, but it's only a theory and not intended to offend anyone in any way, least of all Prince:

sociopaths are born, not made. he's been a sociopath all his life. sociopaths tend to poison everything they touch.

the ladies love Prince because they love the act he puts on, ladies man charming lover with quite the way with words, plus his good looks.

the guys love the music and his attitude, but much less these days, as the novelty is wearing a bit thin, even Prince can't keep up with his own game.

that being said, i still think he's owed a high degree of respect for the work he's put in to his career, the prolific amounts of music, music that changed a lot of people lives for the better.

so whether he's a sociopathic immature megalomaniacal asshole or not, he's still done a lot of good.

jilted lovers and co-workers may disagree. unsatisfied fans may disagree even more, but maybe the most reasonable approach to making comments about him in any negative way (no matter how truthful) is to lace that opinion with some genuine respect.

i think it's a respect he deserves, and believe me, i dont have much time for sociopaths. they need to do something extra special to impress me.

I don't believe you don't have time for sociopaths. If Prince is a sociopath like you call him he's been on your mind daily. You spend time posting a lot about Prince.

like i said, they need to do something extra special to impress me. obviously Prince has. that was my point.

interesting though, two responses to the word 'sociopath', but no recognition of the positive aspects of my post.

looks like we're slowly proving it true.

robinhood said:

Onthereal said:

robinhood said:

I don't believe you don't have time for sociopaths. If Prince is a sociopath like you call him he's been on your mind daily. You spend time posting a lot about Prince.

like i said, they need to do something extra special to impress me. obviously Prince has. that was my point.

interesting though, two responses to the word 'sociopath', but no recognition of the positive aspects of my post.

looks like we're slowly proving it true.

what is the extra special something robin? just curious

robinhood said:

Genesia said:

Prince "poison(s) everything (he) touch(es)"? Seriously?

with due respect to Prince, eventually he does, yes.

I just love all the amateur psychiatrists up in here.

PicklesMcMillan said:

robinhood said:

what is the extra special something robin? just curious

from the first note he recorded, to the very last.

i'm not sure it's well understood around these parts just how much respect that man deserves.

from the outright vindictive hate some spill from their minds onto these boards about him

to the overly-romantic and sexually lustful remarks made about his person

i'm saying, even if he is a sociopath, he still deserves utmost respect.

his life and career are no vehicle for any of us to use for our own negative and biased therapeutic purposes

just as the BET awards tribute should not have been merely another excuse for them to fill a spot on their show and USE Prince to do so

one fine day his work will receive the full recognition it deserves.

hopefully it will be the same day he receives nothing less than full due respect from every single one of his 'fans'.

peace out i gotta go

Yes, I think the music community consusus would be that Prince is nowhere near the calibur artist he was in his 20's, People reach their peak functioning levela in their 20's.

I actually think its awesome that he is still out there performing, 52 is not that old.

Now, if old Prince were going to laugh at himself he should laugh at the Prince of the 90's when he was just in his mid 30's and 40's. 90's Prince is the most cringeworthy Prince of them all.

violetblues said:

Yes, I think the music community consusus would be that Prince is nowhere near the calibur artist he was in his 20's, People reach their peak functioning levela in their 20's.

I actually think its awesome that he is still out there performing, 52 is not that old.

Now, if old Prince were going to laugh at himself he should laugh at the Prince of the 90's when he was just in his mid 30's and 40's. 90's Prince is the most cringeworthy Prince of them all.

Dumbest statement in the history of the org - and that's sayin' something!

violetblues said:

Yes, I think the music community consusus would be that Prince is nowhere near the calibur artist he was in his 20's, People reach their peak functioning levela in their 20's.

I actually think its awesome that he is still out there performing, 52 is not that old.

Now, if old Prince were going to laugh at himself he should laugh at the Prince of the 90's when he was just in his mid 30's and 40's. 90's Prince is the most cringeworthy Prince of them all.

Prince is seriously far more advanced musically and vocally then he was then. Better songwriter 2.

Giovanni777 said:

violetblues said:

Yes, I think the music community consusus would be that Prince is nowhere near the calibur artist he was in his 20's, People reach their peak functioning levela in their 20's.

I actually think its awesome that he is still out there performing, 52 is not that old.

Now, if old Prince were going to laugh at himself he should laugh at the Prince of the 90's when he was just in his mid 30's and 40's. 90's Prince is the most cringeworthy Prince of them all.

Prince is seriously far more advanced musically and vocally then he was then. Better songwriter 2.

Bullcrap. He knows it, everybody knows it. Skill instead of passion is worthless. And better songwriter? He can't be arsed to play those "great" tunes live. He can't be arsed to keep them in print. Nobody can be bothered to cover them. Read the HMP interview: he's already claiming he's 3 albums ahead, as a get-out clause to explain why he isn't talking about his "new" music.

FACTS vs fantasy.

Genesia said:

violetblues said:

Yes, I think the music community consusus would be that Prince is nowhere near the calibur artist he was in his 20's, People reach their peak functioning levela in their 20's.

I actually think its awesome that he is still out there performing, 52 is not that old.

Now, if old Prince were going to laugh at himself he should laugh at the Prince of the 90's when he was just in his mid 30's and 40's. 90's Prince is the most cringeworthy Prince of them all.

Dumbest statement in the history of the org - and that's sayin' something!

You should know, you are probably responsible for most of them.

[Edited 7/2/10 10:20am]

Genesia said:

robinhood said:

with due respect to Prince, eventually he does, yes.

I just love all the amateur psychiatrists up in here.

Me too. Funny thing is, a lot of them need psychiatrists themselves.

Well, maybe it isn't so funny....but I'm laughing at it!

He would have mocked him and stole his music and made it great

violetblues said:

Genesia said:

Dumbest statement in the history of the org - and that's sayin' something!

You should know, you are probably responsible for most of them.

[Edited 7/2/10 10:20am]

Probably not, 20-something. Now, run along and play.

I think the Prince of the 80's would have been highly impressed by the modern day Prince's mastery of his instruments and the tight interraction of his band.

But, he would have probably found the tunes of the modern Prince a bit boring. He would also probably be horrified at the outfits and hairdos.

Genesia said:

violetblues said:

You should know, you are probably responsible for most of them.

[Edited 7/2/10 10:20am]

Probably not, 20-something. Now, run along and play.

Brain decline' begins at age 27

Mental powers start to dwindle at 27 after peaking at 22, marking the start of old age, US research suggests.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7945569.stm

It is pretty well known that physical and mental performance start to decline in your 30's, so I guess that explains a lot about you and your dumbest posts on the .org record holding status. lol

violetblues said:

Genesia said:

Probably not, 20-something. Now, run along and play.

Brain decline' begins at age 27

Mental powers start to dwindle at 27 after peaking at 22, marking the start of old age, US research suggests.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7945569.stm

It is pretty well known that physical and mental performance start to decline in your 30's, so I guess that explains a lot about you and your dumbest posts on the .org record holding status. lol

You quote one headline (not even the entire article) - and claim the information is "pretty well known."

That says something about the powers of deduction and discrimination of 20-somethings, I'd say.

Incidentally, the same article says, "abilities based on accumulated knowledge, such as performance on tests of vocabulary or general information, increased until the age of 60."

In other words, you've got a lot to learn, honey.

[Edited 7/2/10 10:55am]

The Prince of 1984 used to wear pants with the ass cut out of them. I don't think he would've been in any position to laugh at anyone!

BartVanHemelen said:

FACTS vs fantasy.

How about this for FACT...you are like the anti-Viagra! You are the org's version of Debbie Downer. You are that one small, dark rain cloud on an otherwise beautiful sunny day! For F*cks sake, you need a hug, man! Lighten up Holmes. You are making Lil' Strike soften up...

Genesia said:

violetblues said:

Brain decline' begins at age 27

Mental powers start to dwindle at 27 after peaking at 22, marking the start of old age, US research suggests.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7945569.stm

It is pretty well known that physical and mental performance start to decline in your 30's, so I guess that explains a lot about you and your dumbest posts on the .org record holding status. lol

You quote one headline (not even the entire article) - and claim the information is "pretty well known."

That says something about the powers of deduction and discrimination of 20-somethings, I'd say.

If you were in your 20's you would realize that it is against the rules to post entire articles. (at least in P&R) http://prince.org/msg/105/322014

And you would have seen the link. You merely have to "click" or cut and paste it on your "browser" to access the full article. ask your kids to explain it for you.

PicklesMcMillan said:

Genesia said:

Is there any 20-something who wouldn't look at their 50-something self with a combination of amusement and horror?

i would

im so cool now i cant imagine myself at 50 i just cant

And that's a good thing. Because if people could look ahead and see themselves at 50, a lot of them wouldn't want to go.

The Prince of 1984 would have the sense to do anything but laugh at the 2010 Prince because he wouldnt have the knowledge, awareness, or experience so he could do nothing but laugh.

violetblues said:

Genesia said:

You quote one headline (not even the entire article) - and claim the information is "pretty well known."

That says something about the powers of deduction and discrimination of 20-somethings, I'd say.

If you were in your 20's you would realize that it is against the rules to post entire articles. (at least in P&R) http://prince.org/msg/105/322014

And you would have seen the link. You merely have to "click" or cut and paste it on your "browser" to access the full article. ask your kids to explain it for you.

It isn't against the rules to post entire articles. It is against the rules to post entire articles without giving your impression of them. The rule as stated in the P&R forum:

It's okay. Perhaps by your 50s, you will have learned to read.

Genesia said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

i would

im so cool now i cant imagine myself at 50 i just cant

And that's a good thing. Because if people could look ahead and see themselves at 50, a lot of them wouldn't want to go.

And the Prince of today is DEFINITELY laughing at the Prince of 1984. Not because of looks or splits or anything, but of what he didn't know and what he didn't value.

shayde said:

Genesia said:

And that's a good thing. Because if people could look ahead and see themselves at 50, a lot of them wouldn't want to go.

And the Prince of today is DEFINITELY laughing at the Prince of 1984. Not because of looks or splits or anything, but of what he didn't know and what he didn't value.

He'd ask his 1984 self, "Why'd you sell our masters, muthafucka?!"

BartVanHemelen said:

Giovanni777 said:

Prince is seriously far more advanced musically and vocally then he was then. Better songwriter 2.

Bullcrap. He knows it, everybody knows it. Skill instead of passion is worthless. And better songwriter? He can't be arsed to play those "great" tunes live. He can't be arsed to keep them in print. Nobody can be bothered to cover them. Read the HMP interview: he's already claiming he's 3 albums ahead, as a get-out clause to explain why he isn't talking about his "new" music.

FACTS vs fantasy.

Musically, vocally, lyrically, and compositionally, he has evolved.

I think the 'Lotusflow3r' album alone is enough evidence.

Your argument is fundamentally flawed when U mention live work.

Recording and performing R 2 different art forms. He's still got it in both areas.

This would only support my previous statement, as the only live era that comes close 2 NOW in terms of guitar playing is the live Lovesexy tour, and the One Night Alone tour.

Prince is an Anomoly as a recording and performing artist, as with any other artist, thier skills degrade over time... especially THIS much time.

Look Bart. U probably know that I'm an old school Prince head from way back. I have much love 4 that time and material, and if I felt he was lesser now, I'd say it.

There is no fantasy here.