2freaky4church1 said:

Great, some snob is trying to take over the org.

This reminds me of the late Steve Allen, who was a great jazz piano player but said something idiotic things about rock music, calling even the great stuff noise. Or Woody Allen, who thinks all rock music is noise. The debate about what is great music goes beyond the chords.

I would rate the best rock songs as equally artistic to any of the best classical or jazz. It's not about the complexity of the scales or the woodshedding glory, which is admirable, but how it feels to the person listening to it.

Van Gogh didn't have the figure skills of Rembrandt, but he is considered a better artist.

A simple rock song in some ways is harder to write than even classical.

None of this negates the validity of the "snobs's" statements though.

The thread is, afterall, just about what the supposed snob is writing about. I find your post perplexing.

2freaky4church1 said:

Great, some snob is trying to take over the org.

This reminds me of the late Steve Allen, who was a great jazz piano player but said something idiotic things about rock music, calling even the great stuff noise. Or Woody Allen, who thinks all rock music is noise. The debate about what is great music goes beyond the chords.

I would rate the best rock songs as equally artistic to any of the best classical or jazz. It's not about the complexity of the scales or the woodshedding glory, which is admirable, but how it feels to the person listening to it.

Van Gogh didn't have the figure skills of Rembrandt, but he is considered a better artist.

A simple rock song in some ways is harder to write than even classical.

The thread isn't about artistic merit... it's about if Prince could take the place of a jazz musician.

I prefer prince's music (and other rock/pop) to any jazz or classical...

Prince could play any kind of music he wanted to. No reason to prove he couldn't. Just because he holds back, because of the constraints of rock and pop doesn't mean he couldn't do jazz or anything else.

Miles Davis compared him to Duke Ellington. Music is how it affects your spirit.

Progressive rock is super complex but most of it sucks.

2freaky4church1 said:

Great, some snob is trying to take over the org.

This reminds me of the late Steve Allen, who was a great jazz piano player but said something idiotic things about rock music, calling even the great stuff noise. Or Woody Allen, who thinks all rock music is noise. The debate about what is great music goes beyond the chords.

I would rate the best rock songs as equally artistic to any of the best classical or jazz. It's not about the complexity of the scales or the woodshedding glory, which is admirable, but how it feels to the person listening to it.

Van Gogh didn't have the figure skills of Rembrandt, but he is considered a better artist.

A simple rock song in some ways is harder to write than even classical.

How 'bout you read the first post, and then realise your post has got ZILCH to do with that, whereas the"snob"'s posts have.

2freaky4church1 said:

Prince could play any kind of music he wanted to. No reason to prove he couldn't. Just because he holds back, because of the constraints of rock and pop doesn't mean he couldn't do jazz or anything else.

Miles Davis compared him to Duke Ellington. Music is how it affects your spirit.

Progressive rock is super complex but most of it sucks.

Take no offense but, er..., you don't have a fucking clue of what you're talking about. Period.

I think Prince has a decent level of music theory - knows about keys and chords and what chords work together etc. but isn't really sure of exactly what he's doing when he does the complex stuff.

I think he just goes by instinct with what he hears in his head. He'll lay down a basic chord progession or melody & then things will just pop into his head & he'll translate it to the instrument.

It's kind of like speaking and reading - he can have an intillectual conversation that lasts for hours but if you asked him to write it down he wouldn't really know how to spell it out. Which I think is pretty cool actually!

You think Prince don't know what he's doing when he plays

more complex music structure,well i think that long time ago Prince as a musian outgrown Pop format.

Prince sounds like on autopilot when he do POP ,he sounds

much inspired when he plays progressive rock.

Listen to Last December,while the song is pop thing he does after second verse (or maybe third )

sounds like Prince on fire,Prince on a higher (progressive rock) plane