WHY THE HELL DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO ALWAYS AND SOLELY POST NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT PRINCE ?

FRANKLY IT APPEARS YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF MENTAL DISORDER

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BartVanHemelen said:

robinhood said:

maybe thats what happens when you know ur own worth.

Ah, so how much did Prince earn from this? $0.

Oh, and his song wasn't exposed to an audience that might be interested in buying it; instead, he got yet another slice of bad publicity.

Yeah, I see your point.

How much did Verizon pay prince for Guitar?

How much did Pepsi pay him for Uh Huh?

How much did Chevrolet pay him for Little Red Corvette?

Does he get high profile things like that if his songs are being used for promotions everywhere?

[Edited 6/23/10 20:40pm]

Paris9748430 said:

errant said:

here's the problem. Prince is charging 5 times the standard to make money off of his publishing. The point being, to make money. So instead of getting 10 organizations who are willing to pay the standard rate, he might get 1 to do. Thus losing out on 10 organizations' pay and 10 more exposures to his music. Which he'd like to sell. And the organizations who pay this kind of stuff really are not going to be bothered to pay 5 times the going rate just for a Prince song, so they'll quickly look elsewhere for something just as suitable.

Good thing he's a musical genius, because he's a complete dope when it comes to anything else.

How about let Prince worry about Prince's finances, and stop pretending to be his accountant. If he charges that much because he doesn't want his music to be played on T.V. shows, and in commercial, so be it.

why would anyone else mind ?

it's HIS business and HIS music

and i applaud him for not selling out

Serena said:

Who gives a flying fuck what questlove or anyone else thinks about Prince's pricing? Oh wait...of course, BVH since it's something negative that's said about P. I don't want to hear Prince's music in commercials, MTV crap or whatever some goofball wants to use it for.

and there you have it

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Paris9748430 said:

errant said:

Someone besides Prince needs to worry about his finances or he wouldn't have ended up a couple million dollars in debt earlier this year.

You're not qualified to worry about Prince's finances. You're not a C.P.A.

says who?

funkyhead said:

Paris9748430 said:

How is this "bad publicity"? It was a tweet.

Questlove has always made it known that some artists charge more to use their songs than others.

Trust me, a 10 second snippet of The Roots covering Valentina isn't gonna make anyone go out and buy LotusFlow3r.

Most people won't even know what songs they play unless they talk about it during the interview.

I'm guessing The Beatles and Radiohead are missing out on getting their music heard too, because they charge high prices for publishing.

you're really missing the point here. P has ample opportunity to make mega$£, maybe not in 1 big hit [which he likes to do] but on smaller amounts ihn higher quantity over longer periods of time. If P has gone broke after earning mega millions since the 2004 comeback then he only ha s himself to blame.if he has ample opportunity and hasn't jumped at them,maybe he isn't really interested in mega bucks.maybe the high fees are to discourage people from trying to use his music.why do people think money is the end all and be allof everything.perhaps he honestly doesn't care about money.just protecting his "babies''.

lezama said:

Shorty said:

Scenario:

- artist A wants to be on every lame TV show and TV commercial cause they better cash in while it lasts

- artist B doesn't want to do that and doesn't have to.

Right, the first presentation of the scenario is a bifurcation fallacy. The OP assumes Prince is playing the implied game and thus has a stake in winning it, as though he is in P's head to know what is most important to him.

Its completely obvious that Prince likes money, BUT as anyone knows, he's extremely stubborn about many other principles that he lives by that mean more to him than selling himself cheaply.

Yes, like pimping his "children" to advertisers. Oh wait, he did that -- it isn't about principles, it's about greed.

alandail said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Ah, so how much did Prince earn from this? $0.

Oh, and his song wasn't exposed to an audience that might be interested in buying it; instead, he got yet another slice of bad publicity.

Yeah, I see your point.

How much did Verizon pay prince for Guitar?

How much did Pepsi pay him for Uh Huh?

How much did Chevrolet pay him for Little Red Corvette?

Does he get high profile things like that if his songs are being used for promotions everywhere?

[Edited 6/23/10 20:40pm]

Sweet jebus, "Uh Huh" IS NOT HIS SONG.

Oh, and either he has principles (= not selling out), or he's willing to abandon them as long as the price is right (= greed).

Dewrede said:

WHY THE HELL DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO ALWAYS AND SOLELY POST NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT PRINCE ?

WHAT'S THE FUCKING USE ?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE IF HE CAUSES YOU SO MUCH DISGUST AND HATRED ?

HAS HE DONE YOU ANY PERSONAL HARM ?
ARE YOU SOME KIND OF MASOCHIST ?

FRANKLY IT APPEARS YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF MENTAL DISORDER

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Dewrede said:

WHY THE HELL DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO ALWAYS AND SOLELY POST NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT PRINCE ?

WHAT'S THE FUCKING USE ?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE IF HE CAUSES YOU SO MUCH DISGUST AND HATRED ?

HAS HE DONE YOU ANY PERSONAL HARM ?
ARE YOU SOME KIND OF MASOCHIST ?

FRANKLY IT APPEARS YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF MENTAL DISORDER

[Edited 6/23/10 20:31pm]

Let one Madonna thread pass without posting something negative on it, and you might have a point.

Serena said:

Who gives a flying fuck what questlove or anyone else thinks about Prince's pricing? Oh wait...of course, BVH since it's something negative that's said about P. I don't want to hear Prince's music in commercials, MTV crap or whatever some goofball wants to use it for.

Was Prince a goofball when he had "Guitar" plastered all over the internet with Verizon logos all over the place?

Oh. Of course not.

errant said:

Dewrede said:

WHY THE HELL DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO ALWAYS AND SOLELY POST NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT PRINCE ?

WHAT'S THE FUCKING USE ?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE IF HE CAUSES YOU SO MUCH DISGUST AND HATRED ?

HAS HE DONE YOU ANY PERSONAL HARM ?
ARE YOU SOME KIND OF MASOCHIST ?

FRANKLY IT APPEARS YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF MENTAL DISORDER

[Edited 6/23/10 20:31pm]

Let one Madonna thread pass without posting something negative on it, and you might have a point.

perhaps it hasn't occured to you that this is a PRINCE FAN SITE

[Edited 6/24/10 7:53am]

Dewrede said:

WHY THE HELL DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO ALWAYS AND SOLELY POST NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT PRINCE ?

WHAT'S THE FUCKING USE ?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE IF HE CAUSES YOU SO MUCH DISGUST AND HATRED ?

HAS HE DONE YOU ANY PERSONAL HARM ?
ARE YOU SOME KIND OF MASOCHIST ?

FRANKLY IT APPEARS YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF MENTAL DISORDER

Kind of like posting in bold and all caps out of fear that no one will read your rant, eh?

How is it negative if it's true? If Prince raises his price so high, and people say "Oh, that's 5x higher than the going rate", then how is that negative? Facts are facts, so don't getcha panties in a knot over it.

Dewrede said:

errant said:

Let one Madonna thread pass without posting something negative on it, and you might have a point.

perhaps it hasn't it occured to you that this is a PRINCE FAN SITE

which undercuts your post even more since you go out of your way to seek out threads about Madonna to post negative comments.

Dewrede said:

why would anyone else mind ?

it's his business and his music

and i applaud him for not selling out

Verizon = "Guitar"

Volkswagon = "Housequake"

"Little Red Corvette" from the Sign O The Times movie was also used in a commercial.

Target = "Dreamer"

CNN uses his music all the time as a bumper in or out of a station break

Still clappin', now? I bet you try to justify every one of those.

Spinlight said:

Serena said:

Who gives a flying fuck what questlove or anyone else thinks about Prince's pricing? Oh wait...of course, BVH since it's something negative that's said about P. I don't want to hear Prince's music in commercials, MTV crap or whatever some goofball wants to use it for.

Was Prince a goofball when he had "Guitar" plastered all over the internet with Verizon logos all over the place?

Oh. Of course not.

I'd rather not hear his music used in commercials, but at least it was HIM in the ad and not just his music used to pimp a car or something.

errant said:

Dewrede said:

perhaps it hasn't it occured to you that this is a PRINCE FAN SITE

which undercuts your post even more since you go out of your way to seek out threads about Madonna to post negative comments.

i can't help but give in to the urge to express my disgust for that overrated talentless hag when she's being dicussed and praised by some

i'm really trying to quit the habit though , since it rather useless

i don't see what that has anything to do with what i said though

the OP of this thread's sole purpose on here seems to be spouting negative drivel about Prince on every single ocasion

every thread on Prince he starts is negative , it appears as if he thrives on it

hence my question regarding his motivation to even feel the need to be here in the first place

since this is a Prince fan site

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Serena said:

Spinlight said:

Was Prince a goofball when he had "Guitar" plastered all over the internet with Verizon logos all over the place?

Oh. Of course not.

I'd rather not hear his music used in commercials, but at least it was HIM in the ad and not just his music used to pimp a car or something.

he did that too with Little Red Corvette a few years ago, with SOTT footage.

Dewrede said:

errant said:

which undercuts your post even more since you go out of your way to seek out threads about Madonna to post negative comments.

i can't help but give in to the urge to express my disgust for that overrated talentless hag when she's being dicussed and praised by some

i'm really trying to quit the habit though , since it rather useless:-)

i don't see what that has anything to do with what i said though

the OP of this thread's sole purpose on here seems to be spouting negative drivel about Prince on every single ocasion

every thread on Prince he starts is negative , it appears as if he thrives on it

hence my question regarding his motivation to even feel the need to be here in the first place

since this is a Prince fan site

[Edited 6/24/10 8:12am]

negativity is negativity. so why bother spewing it. and since this is a Prince fan site, why are you looking for threads about other artists to do it on?

sorry, just following your own logic through to its natural progression.

Well he said "If I sell my soul, never what will it cost"

errant said:

Dewrede said:

i can't help but give in to the urge to express my disgust for that overrated talentless hag when she's being dicussed and praised by some

i'm really trying to quit the habit though , since it rather useless:-)

i don't see what that has anything to do with what i said though

the OP of this thread's sole purpose on here seems to be spouting negative drivel about Prince on every single ocasion

every thread on Prince he starts is negative , it appears as if he thrives on it

hence my question regarding his motivation to even feel the need to be here in the first place

since this is a Prince fan site

[Edited 6/24/10 8:12am]

negativity is negativity. so why bother spewing it. and since this is a Prince fan site, why are you looking for threads about other artists to do it on?

sorry, just following your own logic through to its natural progression.

told you , i'm trying to kick the habit

errant said:

Serena said:

I'd rather not hear his music used in commercials, but at least it was HIM in the ad and not just his music used to pimp a car or something.

he did that too with Little Red Corvette a few years ago, with SOTT footage.

Never saw it, so I can't say if I would've liked the way it was used or not. But if it had SOTT footage in it, was it promoting SOTT in some way also, along with the Corvette connection? Generally speaking, unless it's promoting something of his or is something creative, I'd rather it not be in a TV ad, but it's his shit, not mine, so whatever. I never knew much about the VW commercial, thought it was more of a concept kind of deal, was it ever broadcast? I thought it was fun though.

ernestsewell said:

Dewrede said:

why would anyone else mind ?

it's his business and his music

and i applaud him for not selling out

Verizon = "Guitar"

Volkswagon = "Housequake"

"Little Red Corvette" from the Sign O The Times movie was also used in a commercial.

Target = "Dreamer"

CNN uses his music all the time as a bumper in or out of a station break

Still clappin', now? I bet you try to justify every one of those.

that doesn't equal to having your songs played on every single ocasion like on mtv etc

ernestsewell said:

Dewrede said:

WHY THE HELL DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO ALWAYS AND SOLELY POST NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT PRINCE ?

WHAT'S THE FUCKING USE ?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE IF HE CAUSES YOU SO MUCH DISGUST AND HATRED ?

HAS HE DONE YOU ANY PERSONAL HARM ?
ARE YOU SOME KIND OF MASOCHIST ?

FRANKLY IT APPEARS YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF MENTAL DISORDER

Kind of like posting in bold and all caps out of fear that no one will read your rant, eh?

How is it negative if it's true? If Prince raises his price so high, and people say "Oh, that's 5x higher than the going rate", then how is that negative? Facts are facts, so don't getcha panties in a knot over it.

you're not addressing what i said

the sole purpose of the OP was to slag him off as always

I can't believe that MULTIPLE people are getting all bent out of shape over the topic and conversation in this thread. It is a legitimate discussion. And it has merit. Prince isn't the only one doing this. And I respect ?uestlove's reported conversation on the matter as well as the OP's thread.

ernestsewell said:

Fuck Questlove. He's the same dumb MFer who declared truth to that phony mug shot of Prince from a couple of months ago.

Prince is greedy, it's that simple. He's missed every opportunity to have his music played wherever by whoever. You can't price yourself right out of the market, then bitch because everyone ignores your money hungry ass.

that is so contradictional it's just nonsense

if he were so greedy he'd let his songs be played at a lower pricerange , which he doesn't

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Dewrede said:

ernestsewell said:

Fuck Questlove. He's the same dumb MFer who declared truth to that phony mug shot of Prince from a couple of months ago.

Prince is greedy, it's that simple. He's missed every opportunity to have his music played wherever by whoever. You can't price yourself right out of the market, then bitch because everyone ignores your money hungry ass.

that is so contradictional it's just nonsense

if he were so greedy he'd let his songs be played at a lower pricerange , which he doesn't

He's greedy by pricing his 30 year old shit so high. My statement is spot on.

i'm kinda glad he charges enough to put his music out of reach for commercial advertising. i cannot help but cringe when i hear a favorite artist's work in that medium

XxAxX said:

i'm kinda glad he charges enough to put his music out of reach for commercial advertising. i cannot help but cringe when i hear a favorite artist's work in that medium

This isn't about commercials. This is about his music being used in TV shows, etc.

And he has sold his music to commercials.

Paris9748430 said:

dopaminerush said:

Well said. It's his music, he can do(not do) whatever he wants to with it.

As much as I read people here bitching about artists "selling out", and being overexposed. Please, I don't wanna hear it.