Keep singing it's mainly a spiritual thang....bro Pretty Soon we'll all forget

1986babyboi

4 months ago 7

i don't know why people are really arguing about who's version is better. Prince wrote a great song that has made chaka and himself very wealthy.lol period

1986babyboi 4 months ago 7

beebeedubop 7 months ago 6 This is better than the Chak Khan cover. beebeedubop 7 months ago 6

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i feel for you moneymade, but its mainly a spiritual thing

I like the Pointer Sister's version of "I Feel For You".

Gheez, those knuckleheads can't figure out the different between "then" and "than", so I have no time for them anyway.

meh.

I've been in many situations where people didn't realize something was written by Prince.

Sinead O'connor's "Nothing Compares 2 U" was the first one.

I just shrug it off now because it never really sinks into folk's minds how talented Prince is anyways. They go on about their ignorant lives.

I feel 4 U isn't one of my favorite songs though. I wonder why folks love it so much. To men, it sounds like disco fodder and a bit boring. Prince has written far better and Chaka has sung far better.

This has nothing to do with Prince changing the lyrics in recent years, and everything to do with Chaka's version being a hit, while Prince's wasn't even a single.

TwiliteKid said:

This has nothing to do with Prince changing the lyrics in recent years, and everything to do with Chaka's version being a hit, while Prince's wasn't even a single.

By your silly logic....Didn't DeAngelo write "She's always in my hair"

After all it was a hit....a definite commercial success and If Prince changed the lyrics to From she's always in my hair to "Jesus is always in my Life" then I would be wrong??? No I am right...no one new understands his new JW format. The original is the original Period....

Hi TykN

--MONEYMADE

[Edited 7/3/10 22:02pm]

MoneyMade said:

TwiliteKid said:

This has nothing to do with Prince changing the lyrics in recent years, and everything to do with Chaka's version being a hit, while Prince's wasn't even a single.

By your silly logic....Didn't DeAngelo write "She's always in my hair"

After all it was a hit....a definite commercial success and If Prince changed the lyrics to From she's always in my hair to "Jesus is always in my Life" then I would be wrong??? No I am right...no one new understands his new JW format. The original is the original Period....

Hi TykN

--MONEYMADE

[Edited 7/3/10 22:02pm]

He changed one word. It's not that deep.

People know more about Chaka's version because Chaka's version was a big hit.

Most people know Prince wrote Nothing Compares 2 U, but they don't know it was originally released by The Family.

Prince being a Jehovah's Witness is not the reason why most people have heard Chaka's version, but not his.

Most people don't know that Donny Hathaway didn't orginally record A Song For You.

Paris9748430 said:

MoneyMade said:

By your silly logic....Didn't DeAngelo write "She's always in my hair"

After all it was a hit....a definite commercial success and If Prince changed the lyrics to From she's always in my hair to "Jesus is always in my Life" then I would be wrong??? No I am right...no one new understands his new JW format. The original is the original Period....

Hi TykN

--MONEYMADE

[Edited 7/3/10 22:02pm]

He changed one word. It's not that deep.

People know more about Chaka's version because Chaka's version was a big hit.

Most people know Prince wrote Nothing Compares 2 U, but they don't know it was originally released by The Family.

Prince being a Jehovah's Witness is not the reason why most people have heard Chaka's version, but not his.

Most people don't know that Donny Hathaway didn't orginally record A Song For You.

When you change the lyrics it's not the original. Anyone new to Prince would not get it period.

If Michael Jackson sang "Who's God" instead of "Who's bad" would you buy it? No you'd buy the original song from the original artist. And after a period of time of hearing this new version "Who's god" Let's say Lenny Kravitz releases and performs the song in it's proper content....10 years from now I'd bet you too...would say Lenn's song is the best and I had no Idea Michael wrote "Bad"

Don't take my word for it....read the subject header and watch the discussion unfold.

Prince....drop that new single. "Jesus is always in my life"

And Let me have "she's always in my hair"

I'm not hard 2 find

[Edited 7/3/10 22:27pm]

MoneyMade said:

Paris9748430 said:

He changed one word. It's not that deep.

People know more about Chaka's version because Chaka's version was a big hit.

Most people know Prince wrote Nothing Compares 2 U, but they don't know it was originally released by The Family.

Prince being a Jehovah's Witness is not the reason why most people have heard Chaka's version, but not his.

Most people don't know that Donny Hathaway didn't orginally record A Song For You.

When you change the lyrics it's not the original. Anyone new to Prince would not get it period.

If Michael Jackson sang "Who's God" instead of "Who's bad" would you buy it? No you'd buy the original song from the original artist. And after a period of time of hearing this new version "Who's god" Let's say Lenny Kravitz releases and performs the song in it's proper content....10 years from now I'd bet you too...would say Lenn's song is the best and I had no Idea Michael wrote "Bad"

Don't take my word for it....read the subject header and watch the discussion unfold.

Prince....drop that new single. "Jesus is always in my life"

And Let me have "she's always in my hair"

I'm not hard 2 find

[Edited 7/3/10 22:27pm]

This post makes no sense whatsoever.

The reason why most people don't know about Prince's version of I Feel For You is because he changed one lyric that most people wouldn't even notice???

It's not like Prince's original version doesn't still exist.

It's not like people can't go and buy Prince's 2nd album to hear that original version.

You're just being paranoid and silly.

Paris9748430 said:

MoneyMade said:

When you change the lyrics it's not the original. Anyone new to Prince would not get it period.

If Michael Jackson sang "Who's God" instead of "Who's bad" would you buy it? No you'd buy the original song from the original artist. And after a period of time of hearing this new version "Who's god" Let's say Lenny Kravitz releases and performs the song in it's proper content....10 years from now I'd bet you too...would say Lenn's song is the best and I had no Idea Michael wrote "Bad"

Don't take my word for it....read the subject header and watch the discussion unfold.

Prince....drop that new single. "Jesus is always in my life"

And Let me have "she's always in my hair"

I'm not hard 2 find

[Edited 7/3/10 22:27pm]

This post makes no sense whatsoever.

The reason why most people don't know about Prince's version of I Feel For You is because he changed one lyric that most people wouldn't even notice???

It's not like Prince's original version doesn't still exist.

It's not like people can't go and buy Prince's 2nd album to hear that original version.

You're just being paranoid and silly.

How old are you 40,50,60?? No 1 go buys an album...kids today download....and

Thirdly how would you know Prince did the original IF YOU NEVER HEARD HIM SING THE ORIGINAL!!! Changing the lyrics...again is not the original!!!

IF YOU'VE NEVER HEARD THE SONG "DARLING NIKKI" BUT SOME OLD FART SINGS "DARLING MARY" AGAIN...WHEN YOU HEAR THE PHOO FIGHTERS SING THE ORIGINAL...YOU TEND TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU HEAR AS THE ORIGINAL....NOT "DARLING MARY"

[Edited 7/3/10 23:46pm]

MoneyMade said:

Paris9748430 said:

This post makes no sense whatsoever.

The reason why most people don't know about Prince's version of I Feel For You is because he changed one lyric that most people wouldn't even notice???

It's not like Prince's original version doesn't still exist.

It's not like people can't go and buy Prince's 2nd album to hear that original version.

You're just being paranoid and silly.

How old are you 40,50,60?? No 1 go buys an album...kids today download....and

Thirdly how would you know Prince did the original IF YOU NEVER HEARD HIM SING THE ORIGINAL!!! Changing the lyrics...again is not the original!!!

IF YOU'VE NEVER HEARD THE SONG "DARLING NIKKI" BUT SOME OLD FART SINGS "DARLING MARY" AGAIN...WHEN YOU HEAR THE PHOO FIGHTERS SING THE ORIGINAL...YOU TEND TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU HEAR AS THE ORIGINAL....NOT "DARLING MARY"

[Edited 7/3/10 23:46pm]

So, what???

Stuff like this happens all the time.

Most people don't know Dolly Parton wrote I Will Always Love You.

Most people don't know Shuggie Otis wrote Strawberry Letter 23.

Most people don't know Otis Redding wrote Respect

Most people don't know Big Mama Thornton originally recorded Hound Dog.

It has nothing to do with Changing Lyrics. Although, Elvis' version and Aretha's version of the songs I mentioned changed lyrics.

I don't think you know what's you're talking about. Matter of fact, I'm starting to become quite certain.

You're just searching, reaching and trying to find something that isn't there.

The reason why most people don't know about Prince's version of I Feel For You isn't because he changed one single word. It's because his version was never released as a single.

purpledoveuk said:

InFeel For You isn't on For You ... So that peson should have lost the Bet. I used to get this with Kiss and Tom Jones and ALWAYS with Nothing Compares 2 U (but that's undestandable)

In fairness...Prince has yet to change these 2 gems.

But if Larry and the jehovas tabernacle choir have their way....

Kiss = Christ

Nothing Compares 2 U = Nothing Compares 2 jehohva

[Edited 7/4/10 0:16am]

MoneyMade said:

purpledoveuk said:

InFeel For You isn't on For You ... So that peson should have lost the Bet. I used to get this with Kiss and Tom Jones and ALWAYS with Nothing Compares 2 U (but that's undestandable)

In fairness...Prince has yet to change these 2 gems.

But if Larry and the jehovas tabernacle choir have their way....

Kiss = Christ

Nothing Compares 2 U = Nothing Compares 2 jehohva

[Edited 7/4/10 0:16am]

You do know that Larry Graham hasn't changed a single word of the lyrics to any of his songs, right???

So, to blame Prince changing one word of his songs on Larry just puts a big 'ol spotlight on your ignorance.

You seem to be obsessed and fixated on this, and you don't have the slightest idea as to what the hell you're talking about.

You may as well be a baby learning to speak. Or a child who comes across a computer or typerwriter and pretends to type by doing this, alndjoueouotoquoutoiqutoqrutnblnbalhrtorqh.

That's the kind of sense you're making.

Paris9748430 said:

MoneyMade said:

In fairness...Prince has yet to change these 2 gems.

But if Larry and the jehovas tabernacle choir have their way....

Kiss = Christ

Nothing Compares 2 U = Nothing Compares 2 jehohva

[Edited 7/4/10 0:16am]

You do know that Larry Graham hasn't changed a single word of the lyrics to any of his songs, right???

So, to blame Prince changing one word of his songs on Larry just puts a big 'ol spotlight on your ignorance.

You seem to be obsessed and fixated on this, and you don't have the slightest idea as to what the hell you're talking about.

You may as well be a baby learning to speak. Or a child who comes across a computer or typerwriter and pretends to type by doing this, alndjoueouotoquoutoiqutoqrutnblnbalhrtorqh.

That's the kind of sense you're making.

Read the topic header.....no one gives a shit about Larry or their Jehova beliefs. How's Paris...I'll be their in Nov. send me a private message if you'd like to discuss your insults in person. And anyone who has the balls to knock on a strangers door on a Saturday morning to proselytize about "144,000 chosen few going to Heaven " when total JW membership is 7M has a math problem! And as far as bro larry....prove to me hasn't advised Prince to change his lyrics. If Larry is an Elder.....he is obligated by doctrine to conduct a moral code. Didn't Larry counsel Prince and Mayte?? Yes he did...so could it be conceivable he suggested Prince change his lyrics...YES

I await your private message...Mr. Paris...

The Religious Affiliation of Pop Singer
Prince

Prince was raised as a Seventh-day Adventist, but is now a convert to the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Various Jehovah's Witnesses have confirmed that Prince is an active adherent (Bible student, who attends JW meetings), although he is not a full-fledged "publisher."

People familiar with Prince's background are not so surprised that he would take an interest in a group that is intensely dedicated to the Bible. Prince was raised as a Seventh-day Adventist, and has always had a spiritual bent.

Prince has appeared on lists of "famous Vegans." It is clear, however, that to whatever extent Prince lives a vegan lifestyle, Veganism does not function as a religion for him. Veganism is merely a dietary lifestyle choice which is a component of his religious background as a Seventh-day Adventist. It is very common for Seventh-day Adventists to be vegetarians. Prince may, in fact, not actually be a vegan, but may simply be a vegetarian.

The following brief article, which was published by Associated Press (May 27, 2001) and carried in newspapers worldwide, was the first major source of this information:

NEW YORK: A G-rated Prince? It may be hard to believe, but the singer who once provoked shock waves with his X-rated lyrics has sworn off cursing and is preaching about the importance of virtue in the May edition of Gotham magazine.

Prince, who is now a Jehovah's Witness, said that "when you use those (curse) words, you call up all the anger, all the negatives times the word has been used before you bring it toward yourself. Why would you want that?"

Prince also told the magazine that teens need more God in their lives.

"When I look at the violence, I wonder where the parents are, but also where is God in their lives? A kid is an open computer ready for programming. Some weird relationships happen, smoking too early and sex."

Jehovah's Witnesses are an apocalyptic group that interprets the Bible differently than traditional Christian organizations.

From: Sean O'Hagan, "Royal Blush", published in The Observer, 4 April 2004 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1186112,00.html; viewed 15 November 2005):

Given all that has happened, then, it is perhaps unsurprising that, like many pioneering black artists before him, Prince has sought solace in the church. Though he was brought up as a practising Seventh Day Adventist he has recently, like Michael Jackson before him, become a Jehovah's Witness.

The story of his conversion broke in typically surreal fashion last October, when a newspaper in his hometown reported how a married couple had answered their door to find Prince proffering a copy of the Watchtower. Though they were orthodox Jews, and it was Yom Kippur, they were also Prince fans. They welcomed him into the house where, with his friend Larry Graham, erstwhile member of Sly & the Family Stone, one of Prince's core influences, he spread the word of Jehovah for 20 minutes before moving on to the next house.

Although he has always spoken openly about his religious beliefs - 'The Cross' from Sign 'O' the Times was a veritable hymn - and his conversion had been signalled in retrospect by his recent album The Rainbow Children, which can now be read as a paean to his new-found faith, the media viewed his outing as further confirmation that Prince was now second only to Michael Jackson in the pop oddball stakes.

What this means in terms of his musical direction is probably of interest to none but the most diehard of Prince fans. The rest of us, many of whom anticipated Prince's Eighties releases with the kind of excitement that only attends the work of the truly gifted, now look forward to the release of yet another Prince album with a mixture of resignation and wishful thinking.

'You hope against hope for him to come back and cut it like he used to,' says DJ Norman Jay, a man who played at several Prince parties in the Eighties, 'but with every hyped record that turns out to be just another Prince album, that hope diminishes. He's the classic illustration of the old A&R adage that if you give an artist total creative control, you'll destroy them. He's been allowed to release far too much stuff, and he's probably surrounded himself with people who are all telling him everything he touches is great. That's a recipe for pure self-indulgence even - especially - where genius is concerned.'

From: Aleksandrs Rozens (Reuters), "'The Artist' Is With Major Label But Dodges Clauses", published November 1999, posted on "Prince Lyrics" website (http://www.princelyrics.co.uk/viewarticle.asp?article=11; viewed 15 November 2005):

Raised as a Seventh Day Adventist, The Artist continues to seek strength in religion.

There are regular readings of the Bible with his bassist, Larry Graham Jr., formerly with Sly & The Family Stone. "We talk about how and why we were made," he said. "God told us he made us in his image to create. Everything I do is inspired by God."

He said the readings are "to see where the minefields are and how to avoid them," but he does not draw directly from the Bible when he pens lyrics. "I don't read the Bible and write a song."

From: Karl Coryat, "His Highness Gets Down!", published in Bass Player, November 1999, posted on "Prince Lyrics" website (http://www.princelyrics.co.uk/viewarticle.asp?article=35):

Things went much smoother once I had been paisley-whipped into shape. Yet it seemed no matter what I asked, the conversation turned to either God, Larry Graham, or both - The Artist freely admitting he modeled his bass style after Graham's. Prince first briefly met the slap pioneer at a Warner Bros. company picnic in 1978, by which time Larry had moved on from Sly & the Family Stone and was a star in his own right fronting Graham Central Station. The two met again a few years later, this time at a Nashville jam. "Larry's wife came up to him and pulled an effects box and cord out of her purse," The Artist remembers warmly. "Now that's love." But Graham and the man he calls "Little Brother" didn't develop a real relationship until the '90s - "relationship" perhaps being an inadequate description. "Here's a guy who has a brother hug for you every day," says The Artist. "And once Larry taught me The Truth, everything changed. My agoraphobia went away. I used to have nightmares about going to the mall, with everyone looking at me strange. No more." The couple forged an ocean-deep spiritual connection - The Artist is a Seventh Day Adventist, Graham a Jehovah's Witness. "I mean, Larry still goes around knocking on doors telling people The Truth. You don't see me doing that!"

...The Artist invited his "older brother" to Minneapolis, set him up with a house of his own, and welcomed him into the Paisley Park family, "signing" him to a handshake-based deal with NPG Records. Before long Graham was playing with The Artist's band New Power Generation and feasting Graham Central Station on Paisley's incredible rehearsal and studio facilities. And ever since, after years of always picking up the bass for at least a few numbers per set, The Artist has hardly touched the instrument onstage. "I can't even physically reach for it anymore," he laughs. Why? "I don't know. I hope it's out of respect for Larry, and not because I feel inadequate compared to him."

From: "Born Again", published in The Times Magazine (United Kingdom), 18 July 1998 (http://www.theprincepages.com/times98article.htm; viewed 15 November 2005):

Prince is not like most British stars. He does have some humility -- but that humility is before God, not man. What a deeply religious people the Americans are, and none more so than black Americans. Prince is no exception. He was brought up in several denominations -- Seventh Day Adventist and Baptist among them. Now, he seems to be leaning -- as I discover later from Graham -- towards another, more fundamentalist sect. "You've gotta have belief," says Prince. "It's the only way to make it through this maze. And God is here, he's everywhere, he ain't dead, contrary to popular opinion. And he will come again and it will be the most beautiful, powerful, electric moment, the sky's gonna go all purple and red." He says that, "I've always imagined angels and demons fighting, like two people arguing. You've got to battle it out." He says that he gives a lot of his wealth away. He says that "30 million people in the world have Aids and 21 million of them are in Africa" -- which is precisely accurate. "That's an organised effort to diminish light. It's fertile soil, rich soil. These people are farmers. You see folks with flies on 'em, then who are you? You'd better help somebody."

...Now, he seems -- at 40, out of Warner's embrace, still on strained terms with his father, after such a dreadful personal loss -- to be a man looking for faith. Yet, he does not seem at ease finding that faith in racial consciousness or exclusivity. Instead, he is finding his faith in the verities of old-time religion. For instance he has given up swearing. Graham, whom I spoke to as promised, told me: "He's a spiritual man. Sometimes we study. For hours, six, seven, eight hours a day we sit down and get into the scriptures." I ask Graham where he goes to worship. 'We go to the Kingdom Hall in Navarre, last 15 minutes up the road, for our spiritual training. Five meetings a week." And does The Artist go too? "He goes with us sometimes." I ask Graham what people who go to the Kingdom Hall are called. He says: "In England, yeah, they would be called Jehovah's Witness." Sure enough, I later find copies of Watchtower and Awake in Studio B, right next to a symbol-shaped guitar. In one issue, God is referred to as The One. That is also the title of Prince's latest single. I ask Graham: how do people react to The Artist at the Kingdom Hall? "Totally different from if we went any place else without security. There's no security needed. The star of the show is God." So be warned. Next year is 1999: he may come knockin' on your door, but he won't have come to party.

Below are excerpts from an interview Prince did with "Addicted to Noice" (http://www.addict.com/issues/5.11/html/hifi/Cover_Story/Artist,_The/page_2.html). The article and Prince himself discuss the influence of fellow Jehovah's Witness Larry Graham Jr. on Prince's music:

Addicted To Noise: What about Ani DiFranco? I'm guessing that among the things you admire about her are her unwillingness to compromise and her ability to run her own label. Was it difficult for two people with such singular visions to accommodate each other?

The Artist: She has a vision by nature and she made it come to fruition. I wanted to meet her because she doesn't allow nobody to mess with her vision. I didn't look at it as two people with strong visions colliding. She knows what she wants and I don't think she thinks about it as someone trying to mess with that. She just views it as the absurdity of if someone did [mess with her vision]. I think Chuck [D] puts it better. It's like giving up your business to someone. Like, 'Here, I gave you some paper that I know is valueless.' It's like you gave your art to someone and then they kept your gold. It's your creation, your gold. I've been studying the Bible with Larry [Graham Jr., former Sly & the Family Stone bassist] and it says that God created the world and he saw that it was good, he saw man and saw that he was good, but then something happened there and man started creating things. What does that tell you?

The 41-year-old Artist appears to have been profoundly affected by his close working relationship with Graham. The bassist has been touring with The Artist for the past year and, in early 1999, The Artist released Graham's album Graham Central Station 2000 on his NPG label.

Graham is someone who "makes my light shine brighter," The Artist says. The pair share Bible study as well as an almost telepathic connection. "He's a brother, mentor, advisor. I get things from him. He teaches me a lot about people," The Artist says.

The Artist has had many musical foils over the years, from percussionist Sheila E. to multi-instrumentalists Wendy & Lisa, to singer Rosie Gaines and rapper Tony M. But Graham appears to occupy a different space than the others, who may have shared center stage but were clearly following The Artist's lead.

The Artist speaks of Graham as an equal, an inspiration from which he can learn. The Artist gives nearly all of his dozen band members a chance to shine during the Thursday afternoon jam session, but he looks to Graham to help hold down not just the beat, but the flow of the show.

In a revealing moment, The Artist draws a distinct line between what he thinks he can and can't learn from Graham.

...

http://www.adherents.com/...rince.html

Paris9748430 said:

purpledoveuk said:

Paris9748430 said:

You do know that Larry Graham hasn't changed a single word of the lyrics to any of his songs, right???

So, to blame Prince changing one word of his songs on Larry just puts a big 'ol spotlight on your ignorance.

You seem to be obsessed and fixated on this, and you don't have the slightest idea as to what the hell you're talking about.

You may as well be a baby learning to speak. Or a child who comes across a computer or typerwriter and pretends to type by doing this, alndjoueouotoquoutoiqutoqrutnblnbalhrtorqh.

That's the kind of sense you're making.

I dobelieve that the Larry Graham comment was a joke (although Prince did say it was Larry 'voice like a Foghorn' Graham who said why did he have to swear and have such spicy lyrics and made him re-evaluate his output). Although - Larry has never written a song called Sexy Motherfucker, been in a film where he touches up drunk, sleeping women or said he wants to fuck the taste out of a mouth...so room for censorship was always limited

WHAT'S EVEN MORE HILARIOUS IS WHEN LARRY AND PRINCE WROTE "STAUROUS" PRINCE WAS ASKED ON BET TO EXPLAIN.....AND HE COULDN'T!!! HE TURNED TO LARRY AND DIRECTED HIM FOR EXPLANATION! ROFL!!!! From the JW website if you wanna read it....they give much credit to Brother Larry for showing young brother Prince the way....

STRANGELY....."STAUROS" SOUNDS LIKE THE ORIGINAL "THE CROSS" EXCEPT inserted STAUROS. DAMMM WHO'S IDEA WAS THIS PARROT9748430!!!!

Prince came to the Jehovah's Witnesses through Larry Graham, the infamous Sly & the Family Stone bassist who has been a witness for quite a while. The two started working together in the early 1990's when Graham, true to his form, began witnessing to Prince. Graham had been doing this for some time (and was subsequently signed to Prince's Label), and Prince began to accept the witness teachings little by little. The culmination of all this came together when Prince released a song called Stauros, a reference to the Greek word that the witnesses believe proves that Jesus Christ died on an upright torture stake, not a cross. When he was asked to explain Stauros on a special that featured Graham and Chaka Khan by Comedian Sinbad on BET (Black Entertainment Television), Prince, who at that time didn't fully understand the concept of Stauros himself, directed Larry Graham to explain the concept behind the song. If you remember also, Larry Graham's wife appeared on the show as well.

Prince came to the Jehovah's Witnesses through Larry Graham, the infamous Sly & the Family Stone bassist who has been a witness for quite a while. The two started working together in the early 1990's when Graham, true to his form, began witnessing to Prince. Graham had been doing this for some time (and was subsequently signed to Prince's Label), and Prince began to accept the witness teachings little by little. The culmination of all this came together when Prince released a song called Stauros, a reference to the Greek word that the witnesses believe proves that Jesus Christ died on an upright torture stake, not a cross. When he was asked to explain Stauros on a special that featured Graham and Chaka Khan by Comedian Sinbad on BET (Black Entertainment Television), Prince, who at that time didn't fully understand the concept of Stauros himself, directed Larry Graham to explain the concept behind the song. If you remember also, Larry Graham's wife appeared on the show as well.

http://www.jehovahs-witne...Music-Club

I BET PRINCE WOULDN'T SING SEXY MUTHRFKR IF YOU PAID HIM $7M! IT WOULD HAVE TO BE YOU "CATCHY BIBLE THUMPA!"

[Edited 7/4/10 1:58am]

Paris9748430 said:

MoneyMade said:

In fairness...Prince has yet to change these 2 gems.

But if Larry and the jehovas tabernacle choir have their way....

Kiss = Christ

Nothing Compares 2 U = Nothing Compares 2 jehohva

[Edited 7/4/10 0:16am]

You do know that Larry Graham hasn't changed a single word of the lyrics to any of his songs, right???

So, to blame Prince changing one word of his songs on Larry just puts a big 'ol spotlight on your ignorance.

You seem to be obsessed and fixated on this, and you don't have the slightest idea as to what the hell you're talking about.

You may as well be a baby learning to speak. Or a child who comes across a computer or typerwriter and pretends to type by doing this, alndjoueouotoquoutoiqutoqrutnblnbalhrtorqh.

That's the kind of sense you're making.

"Stauros" Just answered your question...with a lengthy explanation above. where are you.

This message has Not been approved by Larry.

This message has Not been approved by Larry.

This message has Not been approved by Larry.

[Edited 7/4/10 2:03am]

MoneyMade said:

purpledoveuk said:

Paris9748430 said: I dobelieve that the Larry Graham comment was a joke (although Prince did say it was Larry 'voice like a Foghorn' Graham who said why did he have to swear and have such spicy lyrics and made him re-evaluate his output). Although - Larry has never written a song called Sexy Motherfucker, been in a film where he touches up drunk, sleeping women or said he wants to fuck the taste out of a mouth...so room for censorship was always limited

WHAT'S EVEN MORE HILARIOUS IS WHEN LARRY AND PRINCE WROTE "STAUROUS" PRINCE WAS ASKED ON BET TO EXPLAIN.....AND HE COULDN'T!!! HE TURNED TO LARRY AND DIRECTED HIM FOR EXPLANATION! ROFL!!!! From the JW website if you wanna read it....they give much credit to Brother Larry for showing young brother Prince the way....

STRANGELY....."STAUROS" SOUNDS LIKE THE ORIGINAL "THE CROSS" EXCEPT STAUROS.

DAMMM WHO'S IDEA WAS THIS!!!!

Prince came to the Jehovah's Witnesses through Larry Graham, the infamous Sly & the Family Stone bassist who has been a witness for quite a while. The two started working together in the early 1990's when Graham, true to his form, began witnessing to Prince. Graham had been doing this for some time (and was subsequently signed to Prince's Label), and Prince began to accept the witness teachings little by little. The culmination of all this came together when Prince released a song called Stauros, a reference to the Greek word that the witnesses believe proves that Jesus Christ died on an upright torture stake, not a cross. When he was asked to explain Stauros on a special that featured Graham and Chaka Khan by Comedian Sinbad on BET (Black Entertainment Television), Prince, who at that time didn't fully understand the concept of Stauros himself, directed Larry Graham to explain the concept behind the song. If you remember also, Larry Graham's wife appeared on the show as well.

Prince came to the Jehovah's Witnesses through Larry Graham, the infamous Sly & the Family Stone bassist who has been a witness for quite a while. The two started working together in the early 1990's when Graham, true to his form, began witnessing to Prince. Graham had been doing this for some time (and was subsequently signed to Prince's Label), and Prince began to accept the witness teachings little by little. The culmination of all this came together when Prince released a song called Stauros, a reference to the Greek word that the witnesses believe proves that Jesus Christ died on an upright torture stake, not a cross. When he was asked to explain Stauros on a special that featured Graham and Chaka Khan by Comedian Sinbad on BET (Black Entertainment Television), Prince, who at that time didn't fully understand the concept of Stauros himself, directed Larry Graham to explain the concept behind the song. If you remember also, Larry Graham's wife appeared on the show as well.

http://www.jehovahs-witne...Music-Club

I BET PRINCE WOULDN'T SING SEXY MUTHRFKR IF YOU PAID HIM $7M! IT WOULD HAVE TO BE YOU "CATCHY BIBLE THUMPA!"

[Edited 7/4/10 1:49am]

Like I said earlier, you seem to be obsessed and fixated on this topic. This isn't nearly as important as you think it is.

Who cares if he doesn't sing Sexy M.F.??? He's got many other songs that he can sing.

Who cares if he changes a lyric here or there.

He wrote them. But even if he didn't, there have been cover versions of songs that changes the lyrics to fit the person singing the song.

Everyone knows Larry Graham was the main reason why Prince is a Jehovah's Witness. But other your superficial reasons. It's not really a bad thing.

Prince was at his lowest point both professionally and personally. His marriage was over, his albums weren't selling and they weren't very good. He lost a child, and both parents.

Prince was also firing members of his staff just for looking him in the eye.

If Larry Graham introducing his religion to Prince has made him a calmer, happier, well-adjusted person. Who cares about him changing a lyric or two???

If Prince singing dirty lyrics means he has to be an unhappy, miserable, surly, uncaring asshole, I say bring on New World Translation.

Had Prince commited suicide after all the tragedy that went on in his life. Or died of a drug overdose, none of this would matter.

Prince the person's well-being should take precedent over the lyrics he wrote to some silly song. If not singing Sexy M.F., or changing the lyric "It's Mainly a phyisical thing" to "It's Mainly a Spiritual Thing".

Who are we to say he's wrong??? Especially if he's not hurting anyone or breaking any laws.

If Larry Graham was Prince heroin dealer, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Because musicians do drugs all the time. Everyone here would be used to it.

All I'm trying to say is. Whatever your problem is, you need to build a bridge, and get over it.

Paris9748430 said:

MoneyMade said:

WHAT'S EVEN MORE HILARIOUS IS WHEN LARRY AND PRINCE WROTE "STAUROUS" PRINCE WAS ASKED ON BET TO EXPLAIN.....AND HE COULDN'T!!! HE TURNED TO LARRY AND DIRECTED HIM FOR EXPLANATION! ROFL!!!! From the JW website if you wanna read it....they give much credit to Brother Larry for showing young brother Prince the way....

STRANGELY....."STAUROS" SOUNDS LIKE THE ORIGINAL "THE CROSS" EXCEPT STAUROS.

DAMMM WHO'S IDEA WAS THIS!!!!

Prince came to the Jehovah's Witnesses through Larry Graham, the infamous Sly & the Family Stone bassist who has been a witness for quite a while. The two started working together in the early 1990's when Graham, true to his form, began witnessing to Prince. Graham had been doing this for some time (and was subsequently signed to Prince's Label), and Prince began to accept the witness teachings little by little. The culmination of all this came together when Prince released a song called Stauros, a reference to the Greek word that the witnesses believe proves that Jesus Christ died on an upright torture stake, not a cross. When he was asked to explain Stauros on a special that featured Graham and Chaka Khan by Comedian Sinbad on BET (Black Entertainment Television), Prince, who at that time didn't fully understand the concept of Stauros himself, directed Larry Graham to explain the concept behind the song. If you remember also, Larry Graham's wife appeared on the show as well.

Prince came to the Jehovah's Witnesses through Larry Graham, the infamous Sly & the Family Stone bassist who has been a witness for quite a while. The two started working together in the early 1990's when Graham, true to his form, began witnessing to Prince. Graham had been doing this for some time (and was subsequently signed to Prince's Label), and Prince began to accept the witness teachings little by little. The culmination of all this came together when Prince released a song called Stauros, a reference to the Greek word that the witnesses believe proves that Jesus Christ died on an upright torture stake, not a cross. When he was asked to explain Stauros on a special that featured Graham and Chaka Khan by Comedian Sinbad on BET (Black Entertainment Television), Prince, who at that time didn't fully understand the concept of Stauros himself, directed Larry Graham to explain the concept behind the song. If you remember also, Larry Graham's wife appeared on the show as well.

http://www.jehovahs-witne...Music-Club

I BET PRINCE WOULDN'T SING SEXY MUTHRFKR IF YOU PAID HIM $7M! IT WOULD HAVE TO BE YOU "CATCHY BIBLE THUMPA!"

[Edited 7/4/10 1:49am]

Like I said earlier, you seem to be obsessed and fixated on this topic. This isn't nearly as important as you think it is.

Who cares if he doesn't sing Sexy M.F.??? He's got many other songs that he can sing.

Who cares if he changes a lyric here or there.

He wrote them. But even if he didn't, there have been cover versions of songs that changes the lyrics to fit the person singing the song.

Everyone knows Larry Graham was the main reason why Prince is a Jehovah's Witness. But other your superficial reasons. It's not really a bad thing.

Prince was at his lowest point both professionally and personally. His marriage was over, his albums weren't selling and they weren't very good. He lost a child, and both parents.

Prince was also firing members of his staff just for looking him in the eye.

If Larry Graham introducing his religion to Prince has made him a calmer, happier, well-adjusted person. Who cares about him changing a lyric or two???

If Prince singing dirty lyrics means he has to be an unhappy, miserable, surly, uncaring asshole, I say bring on New World Translation.

Had Prince commited suicide after all the tragedy that went on in his life. Or died of a drug overdose, none of this would matter.

Prince the person's well-being should take precedent over the lyrics he wrote to some silly song. If not singing Sexy M.F., or changing the lyric "It's Mainly a phyisical thing" to "It's Mainly a Spiritual Thing".

Who are we to say he's wrong??? Especially if he's not hurting anyone or breaking any laws.

If Larry Graham was Prince heroin dealer, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Because musicians do drugs all the time. Everyone here would be used to it.

All I'm trying to say is. Whatever your problem is, you need to build a bridge, and get over it.

You know I used to think it was all an act this new JW transformation.....I thought Prince had more intelligence than to be hoodwinked by Larry but I was wrong. Furthermore,,,I wouldn't be surprised if his will has the Kingdom Hall as his primary beneficiary. Kudos....I'm looking forward to the remake She's always in my hair...remaster "Jehova's always in my life"

144,000 will enter the kingdom....Get on the boat Parrot9748430

Kinda weird this Charles T. Russell (1852- 1916) founded the JW movement only just a few years ago...........

Rock hard in a spritual place....

[Edited 7/4/10 2:45am]

Gheez, how did we get from "I Feel For You" to stauros discussions?

ernestsewell said:

Gheez, how did we get from "I Feel For You" to stauros discussions?

We got there because the OP doesn't know the definition of "argument."

MoneyMade said:

TwiliteKid said:

This has nothing to do with Prince changing the lyrics in recent years, and everything to do with Chaka's version being a hit, while Prince's wasn't even a single.

By your silly logic....Didn't DeAngelo write "She's always in my hair"

After all it was a hit....a definite commercial success and If Prince changed the lyrics to From she's always in my hair to "Jesus is always in my Life" then I would be wrong??? No I am right...no one new understands his new JW format. The original is the original Period....

Hi TykN

--MONEYMADE

[Edited 7/3/10 22:02pm]

What's silly about my logic? People think Chaka wrote it because hers is likely the only version they've heard. You can make it more complicated if you like, but that's what it boils down to. Think about it: How may people think Aretha wrote "Respect"? Or Whitney wrote "I Will Always Love You"? Or Soft Cell wrote "Tainted Love"? I could go on and on.

And in what universe was D'Angelo's "She's Always In My Hair" a hit? I can't find any evidence that it even made a dent on the charts.

Paris9748430 said:

this is the same reason that people think that whitney wrote songs like "Greatest Love of All" and "I wil always love you" but we all know she did nothing in the writing field. People indentify this song with Chaka and NEVER with Prince she got it and owned the song because it was a huge hit, the same with Sinead's version of "Nothin Compares 2U" but maybe Prince or the WB label is more to blame for not thinking these were singles for himself in the day.

Scanning this thread (it's not worthwhile reading...) I couldn't help thinking: has Prince re-released that great track? Did he come out with other re-releases (I guess they are remasterd as well???) Where can I get them???? Why isn't such great news a sticky????????