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Thread started 06/17/10 7:32am

MikeyB71

Band lineup on 'The War'

I have always enjoyed this jam, but does anyone know who played on this recording?

I have read that Larry Graham played bass, but i do not know if this is true or not, and i cannot seem to find anymore information on it.

Any idea's?

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Reply #1 posted 06/17/10 7:45am

ernestsewell

Given the time frame, I would think it was some verison of the NPG circa 1998. That would probably include Kirk on drums, Rhonda on bass, Mike Scott on guitar, Morris on keyboards, possibly Kat on guitar, although I think she was gone by that point. Good question though.

Also, on that same night he played "One Of Us", "You're Still The One" (Shania Twain cover), and "The Christ" (cringe).

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Reply #2 posted 06/17/10 7:54am

MikeyB71

ernestsewell said:

Given the time frame, I would think it was some verison of the NPG circa 1998. That would probably include Kirk on drums, Rhonda on bass, Mike Scott on guitar, Morris on keyboards, possibly Kat on guitar, although I think she was gone by that point. Good question though.

Also, on that same night he played "One Of Us", "You're Still The One" (Shania Twain cover), and "The Christ" (cringe).

Was that at Paisley Ernest?

We need an updated 'The Vault' for questions like these. wink

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Reply #3 posted 06/17/10 7:54am

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From what you say ernest I think Kat Dyson was still there (isn't she on the War cassette/CD cover giving birth to the world or something?). Would she have done co-lead vocals on Still The One that night too?

Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #4 posted 06/17/10 7:58am

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KeithyT said:

From what you say ernest I think Kat Dyson was still there (isn't she on the War cassette/CD cover giving birth to the world or something?). Would she have done co-lead vocals on Still The One that night too?

That was Marva King, in both instances.

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Reply #5 posted 06/17/10 8:02am

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ernestsewell said:

KeithyT said:

From what you say ernest I think Kat Dyson was still there (isn't she on the War cassette/CD cover giving birth to the world or something?). Would she have done co-lead vocals on Still The One that night too?

That was Marva King, in both instances.

Oh yeah lol doh!

Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #6 posted 06/17/10 8:17am

MikeyB71

I found this in P. Nilsen's 'The Vault.'

20th June (am) 1998.

Prince and the NPG play an early morning show at Paisley Park dubbed 'The One,' which was announced on the Love 4 One Another website.

The gig began at 3.15am with a screening of The One video. After the video Prince performed a string of 'one' songs. Then closed the set with The Christ.

After a short break, the band returned chanting 'the revolution will be colourised.' The chanting continued for a while before the band broke into what we now know as 'The War.'

The jam lasted 45 minutes, the band then left the stage with only Kirk Johnson remaining, while he encouraged the audience to continue chanting.

The jam was then edited down to 26 minutes and released in July.

So we know that Kirk was present that night but who else? The vault does not mention anyone else.

And yes, i should have checked properly before posting this thread. lol

[Edited 6/17/10 8:19am]

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Reply #7 posted 06/17/10 8:38am

ernestsewell

MikeyB71 said:

I found this in P. Nilsen's 'The Vault.'

20th June (am) 1998.

Prince and the NPG play an early morning show at Paisley Park dubbed 'The One,' which was announced on the Love 4 One Another website.

The gig began at 3.15am with a screening of The One video. After the video Prince performed a string of 'one' songs. Then closed the set with The Christ.

After a short break, the band returned chanting 'the revolution will be colourised.' The chanting continued for a while before the band broke into what we now know as 'The War.'

The jam lasted 45 minutes, the band then left the stage with only Kirk Johnson remaining, while he encouraged the audience to continue chanting.

The jam was then edited down to 26 minutes and released in July.

So we know that Kirk was present that night but who else? The vault does not mention anyone else.

And yes, i should have checked properly before posting this thread. lol

Good bit of information there. I sort of knew some of those facts.

The telling part though is that it was recorded on 20JUN98. It'd be quite easy to narrow down who was in the band at that time. NewPowerSoul was released June 30, so it'd be a very safe bet that whoever is on that album, played on "The War". That was his band at the time. He changed it up a bit after the NewPowerSoul touring, and he headed into the Rave Un2 era (which had folks like Kip Blackshire, and Graham on bass).

You can also reference this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...Generation

We see that the NPG consisted of:

Rev. Mike Scott was on rhythm guitar (Kat left in 1997)

Rhonda on bass (took her break in 1999)

Morris Hayes - Organ (and keys)

Kirk Johnson - drums

Marva King - vocals

Tony Morris - horns (never heard of him)

It's weird to me that the song was credited to New Power Generation, but when folks talk about NPG projects like Goldnigga, Exodus, NewPowerSoul, etc, it's often overlooked. Some of the NPGMC releases were NPG songs too.

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Reply #8 posted 06/17/10 8:53am

MikeyB71

ernestsewell said:

MikeyB71 said:

I found this in P. Nilsen's 'The Vault.'

20th June (am) 1998.

Prince and the NPG play an early morning show at Paisley Park dubbed 'The One,' which was announced on the Love 4 One Another website.

The gig began at 3.15am with a screening of The One video. After the video Prince performed a string of 'one' songs. Then closed the set with The Christ.

After a short break, the band returned chanting 'the revolution will be colourised.' The chanting continued for a while before the band broke into what we now know as 'The War.'

The jam lasted 45 minutes, the band then left the stage with only Kirk Johnson remaining, while he encouraged the audience to continue chanting.

The jam was then edited down to 26 minutes and released in July.

So we know that Kirk was present that night but who else? The vault does not mention anyone else.

And yes, i should have checked properly before posting this thread. lol

Good bit of information there. I sort of knew some of those facts.

The telling part though is that it was recorded on 20JUN98. It'd be quite easy to narrow down who was in the band at that time. NewPowerSoul was released June 30, so it'd be a very safe bet that whoever is on that album, played on "The War". That was his band at the time. He changed it up a bit after the NewPowerSoul touring, and he headed into the Rave Un2 era (which had folks like Kip Blackshire, and Graham on bass).

You can also reference this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...Generation

We see that the NPG consisted of:

Rev. Mike Scott was on rhythm guitar (Kat left in 1997)

Rhonda on bass (took her break in 1999)

Morris Hayes - Organ (and keys)

Kirk Johnson - drums

Marva King - vocals

Tony Morris - horns (never heard of him)

It's weird to me that the song was credited to New Power Generation, but when folks talk about NPG projects like Goldnigga, Exodus, NewPowerSoul, etc, it's often overlooked. Some of the NPGMC releases were NPG songs too.

Cool, thanks for your thoughts ernest.

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Reply #9 posted 06/17/10 10:30am

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Some old school orgers, for example Lovemachine, were there during the performance.

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Reply #10 posted 06/17/10 1:35pm

booyah

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Check out PrinceVault for some info: http://princevault.com/in...hp/The_War

I am one of the Orgeanic 6
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Reply #11 posted 06/17/10 2:19pm

MikeyB71

booyah said:

Check out PrinceVault for some info: http://princevault.com/in...hp/The_War

Thanks, thumbs up! ernest was correct in the band lineup according to princevault.

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