Aristotle said:

Not exactly about Black pride, but "Race" is a good one dealing with racial equality.

Check out "Family Name" from 'The Rainbow Children' as well.

[Edited 6/14/10 17:52pm]

Race is an anti-pride song if anything...

It's pretty remarkable how much his racial attitude has changed since then.

ronnwinter said:

babynoz said:

What's funny is I predicted this angry backlash before the election and very few took it seriously. Gun and ammo sales skyrocketed, the rhetoric turned ugly and I don't think it's going to improve anytime soon. Bottom line, promoting fear and hatred is profitable for a select few.

I agree that Prince was addressing his comments to Ebony's core audience and also speaking from his own perspective just as he does in his so called black pride songs.

One reason this happened was because Obama either DID and/or STILL wants to tax the hell out of handguns and handgun ammo. I went out and stocked up myself before the tax increase.

As far as Prince's comments in Ebony..yea.. your probably right about him just talking to the core audience. But his songs and other interviews where his entire fanbase are reading and listening...well... again, I say its nonsense for him to portray the "struggling black man".

Its just sickening to hear him blabbering about it. Just get back to the Prince that never talked.

If you pay close attention, the man only complains in his interviews now, unless it concerns his gigs or religion.

Yeah, the scare campaign is working quite well.

I imagine that Prince wasn't always "Prince". Like a lot of folks, he came from humble beginnings and experienced struggle in his youth and quite likely witnessed his parents and people around him struggle as well.

Like anybody else, Prince usuallly speaks from his own perspective, not necessarily yours or mine. One of the most useful qualities I try to cultivate is the ability to understand how people from different walks of life see things. Sometimes I appreciate Prince's POV whether I agree with it or not.

babynoz said:

Yeah, the scare campaign is working quite well.

I imagine that Prince wasn't always "Prince". Like a lot of folks, he came from humble beginnings and experienced struggle in his youth and quite likely witnessed his parents and people around him struggle as well.

Like anybody else, Prince usuallly speaks from his own perspective, not necessarily yours or mine. One of the most useful qualities I try to cultivate is the ability to understand how people from different walks of life see things. Sometimes I appreciate Prince's POV whether I agree with it or not.

Smart Lady!! I need to try that more often

colorblu said:

babynoz said:

Yeah, the scare campaign is working quite well.

I imagine that Prince wasn't always "Prince". Like a lot of folks, he came from humble beginnings and experienced struggle in his youth and quite likely witnessed his parents and people around him struggle as well.

Like anybody else, Prince usuallly speaks from his own perspective, not necessarily yours or mine. One of the most useful qualities I try to cultivate is the ability to understand how people from different walks of life see things. Sometimes I appreciate Prince's POV whether I agree with it or not.

Smart Lady!! I need to try that more often

How ya been lady?

babynoz said:

colorblu said:

Smart Lady!! I need to try that more often

How ya been lady?

how bout U?

Alamine said:

Date and the year, and where they released while he was signed with WB.

Must be songs released on an album, not bootlegs or second thoughts

[Edited 6/14/10 16:58pm]

Gee I don't know. Half the time his black pride songs sound like politically correct catchup prides songs in blackface.

OldFriends4Sale said:

ThreadBare said:

That's another one I was thinking of.

That's just about Interracial Love / Romance / Sex

Prince did a good number of songs like that. I believe Yellow (Sheila E:Romance 1600) & Olivers House (Sheila E:Glamorous Life) are about the same thing

Jerk Out(Mazarati / the Time) are about the same, but from an angrier direction

I was actually being sarcastic throwing that in because if you read the lyrics and combine that with the scene with the Lady of Color in 'Under A Cherry Moon' THAT let's you know where Prince was coming from with his whole colorstruck idealism.

ThreadBare said:

A lot of what P did, with regard to black pride stuff (and I have to say this low, before babynoz accuses me of defending the brotha ), was done subtly. It was the difference between explicitly proclaiming "I'm black and I'm proud" and his more slick references to race.

For example, on "DMSR," he pokes fun at white people (rather stereotypically) needing help to clap on the 4 beat. And on "The Bird," which I still see as a Prince vehicle, you see it again.

On "The Sacrifice of Victor," he references the slaying of Dr. King (a recurring reference, in light of "Dreamer").

Again, you won't find a "black" anthem on his records during his Warner days, but I still think it's a stretch to say that his records (and the Time's) presented him as anything but a black man who rocked as hard as he funked.

I thought I was the only one who got the "1, 2, 3" humor you can even hear a chuckle in his voice when he sang that part.

I'm on the same page as you, I think his racial pride is less pronounced than say James Brown or even Sly Stone(who influenced Prince to aim for a multi racial audience).

I'd like to add the song "Free" to your list.

Harlepolis said:

ThreadBare said:

A lot of what P did, with regard to black pride stuff (and I have to say this low, before babynoz accuses me of defending the brotha ), was done subtly. It was the difference between explicitly proclaiming "I'm black and I'm proud" and his more slick references to race.

For example, on "DMSR," he pokes fun at white people (rather stereotypically) needing help to clap on the 4 beat. And on "The Bird," which I still see as a Prince vehicle, you see it again.

On "The Sacrifice of Victor," he references the slaying of Dr. King (a recurring reference, in light of "Dreamer").

Again, you won't find a "black" anthem on his records during his Warner days, but I still think it's a stretch to say that his records (and the Time's) presented him as anything but a black man who rocked as hard as he funked.

I thought I was the only one who got the "1, 2, 3" humor you can even hear a chuckle in his voice when he sang that part.

I'm on the same page as you, I think his racial pride is less pronounced than say James Brown or even Sly Stone(who influenced Prince to aim for a multi racial audience).

I'd like to add the song "Free" to your list.

Trust me, those jabs didn't fly over the heads of us with heavy caucasoid ancestry. It was good fun, though.

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ThreadBare said:

A lot of what P did, with regard to black pride stuff (and I have to say this low, before babynoz accuses me of defending the brotha ), was done subtly. It was the difference between explicitly proclaiming "I'm black and I'm proud" and his more slick references to race.

For example, on "DMSR," he pokes fun at white people (rather stereotypically) needing help to clap on the 4 beat. And on "The Bird," which I still see as a Prince vehicle, you see it again.

On "The Sacrifice of Victor," he references the slaying of Dr. King (a recurring reference, in light of "Dreamer").

Again, you won't find a "black" anthem on his records during his Warner days, but I still think it's a stretch to say that his records (and the Time's) presented him as anything but a black man who rocked as hard as he funked.