how's that audit coming along

the 'presidents before Washington' is silly. Sure under the Articles of the Confederation there were 'presidents' but that was only when congress was in session. So what? That is like saying that we were once ruled by King George!

And chem trails? He sounds as foolish as the water sprinkler rainbow Conspiracy woman.

ernestsewell said:

robinhood said:

cats and dogs are already being microchipped. shopping addicts (consumers) suck up to the barcode. same thing. metaphoric microchipping began when people started believing money was the most important thing.

That's kind of two ideas though. I think Prince was more referring to a chip in your body to keep track of your information. Kind of like a very secure ID system. It's already used on laptop computers with fingerprint IDing to keep your computer secure, and government agencies use it a lot, as well as eye ID. Some airports use face recognition, as do webcams that move when you move (unless you're black and it doesn't see you at all).

Yes, pets are chipped.

There's just no way I'll ever get a chip, or some tattoo on me that lets a computer know who I am or where I am. Hell, even a lot of cell phone's locations can be traced. How safe is your privacy anyway? (Note to people using Google Latitude.)

No one "sucked up" to the barcode though. You have to buy things to survive, and you can't get everything you need from a mom & pop stand...unless you furnish your house from garage sales and flea markets. But you're right about the money thing Even the Bible says "the love of money is the root of all evil" (not just money as most have misquoted). I remember churches and religious organizations freaking out when the barcode was introduced on a broader basis in the mid 1970's, especially since the number "6" was at the beginning, in the middle, and at the end of every barcode. (The number 6 is represented by two thin lines next to each other, and appear at the front, middle and end of a barcode). Therefore all barcodes had 666 embedded in them by default. Of course that led to more hysteria about the eventual "mark of the beast", and people thought that was coming to pass at that time. It wasn't of course, but it will.

I think we're a slave to the fact that we have to live, and that things we buy will always just have a barcode on them.

even if Prince confuses country with government. He seems to be dead on (but not at all orginal) with this. That is something that is being put into place.

But his question was how much will you give up for security and comfort? Which again is a good question but not original by any means.

as for Lincoln being a racist. I have to give him a pass on this. As based on his experience persons of color were not as well educated in English and would thus be seen as not as intelligent. If any of us were forced to move to a place where we did not know the language we would be seen as poorly educated too.

And no matter what his true motive was, he did free the slaves.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

as for Lincoln being a racist. I have to give him a pass on this. As based on his experience persons of color were not as well educated in English and would thus be seen as not as intelligent. If any of us were forced to move to a place where we did not know the language we would be seen as poorly educated too.

And no matter what his true motive was, he did free the slaves.

technically, lincoln really didnt free the slaves

the emancipation proclamation only freed slaves that were of the confederacy or the rebellion

and the US/Union didnt have the power to enforced laws in states that it didnt control

it also did not free slaves that were apart of the union such as states like Kentucky and Maryland

and when sections of New Orleans surrendered to the Union the slaves in New Orleans were not

free either

the slaves were still fucked either way

[Edited 6/12/10 22:52pm]

PicklesMcMillan said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

as for Lincoln being a racist. I have to give him a pass on this. As based on his experience persons of color were not as well educated in English and would thus be seen as not as intelligent. If any of us were forced to move to a place where we did not know the language we would be seen as poorly educated too.

And no matter what his true motive was, he did free the slaves.

technically, lincoln really didnt free the slaves

the emancipation proclamation only freed slaves that were of the confederacy or the rebellion

and the US/Union didnt have the power to enforced laws in states that it didnt control

it also did not free slaves that were apart of the union such as states like Kentucky and Maryland

and when sections of New Orleans surrendered to the Union the slaves in New Orleans were not

free either

the slaves were still fucked either way

[Edited 6/12/10 22:52pm]

Lincoln is probably rolling over in his grave. After Prince wrote that song, Lincoln was probably thinking to himself "Oh, hell, why did I even bother with that stupid Emancipation Proclamation and that pointless Civil War. Prince called me a racist in a fan club only CD "

PicklesMcMillan said:

robinhood said:

just because you havent been served evidence on a golden platter doesnt mean chemtrails dont exist. do you think that kind of evidence would be easy to find? considering WHO is implicated? since when would your government want evidence leaking out of their direct involvement in geo-engineering and climate change via chemtrails? do you think they want you to know how much they enjoy poisoning the air you breathe? these are the same people who poison your food, your water, your mind and cover-it up like they have for ages. thankfully there is evidence out there, if you google the right search terms.

if the government really doesnt want evidence leaking out about chemtrails as you say,

then why is it that all you have to do is complete a simple google search to find this evidence?

if the government is as powerful as you say, wouldn't they control critical evidence from leaking

on the internet aswell ?

And are you saying climate change is the result of chemtrails?

because there could be a million variables that effect climate change that not myself , you , or

top government scientist can prove 100%

the cause of climate change is never for certain

have you googled anything? what did you find?

did you find the numerous articles on this subject providing proof including the chemical composition of a lot of the toxic dumps they do from aeroplanes?

and no, your government does not want this stuff 'leaking out' - nor will they hand it to you on a silver platter - you wont see it on the news - or read about it in your papers.

they cant control the internet - but they have tried - a lot of articles on this topic have been taken down - because they hit too close to home with way too much evidence implicating them as the vile little lying leeches they really are.

my point is - just because you didnt see it on tv or read it in a magazine or no one walked up to you and said 'hey here's all the proof you'll never need about chemtrails' - it doesnt mean they dont exist.

its 2010 and people still laugh things like this off as presposterous - then in 20 years when the shit hits the fan they say "oh yeah. i remember they told me about them airplanes once. guess i should've listened"

no disrespect, but hey yo. the chemtrails topic is vast and includes many different areas so all i'm sayin is do the research before saying there's no scientific evidence that they exist - there is - and they do.

I would venture to say Prince is probably more well read than ANY orger...thats right I said it...so until u catch up or keep up..u might wanna try and learn something from him.

lotusboy said:

I would venture to say Prince is probably more well read than ANY orger...thats right I said it...so until u catch up or keep up..u might wanna try and learn something from him.

Yes.

"What? Dorothy Parker was a real person???"

robinhood said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

if the government really doesnt want evidence leaking out about chemtrails as you say,

then why is it that all you have to do is complete a simple google search to find this evidence?

if the government is as powerful as you say, wouldn't they control critical evidence from leaking

on the internet aswell ?

And are you saying climate change is the result of chemtrails?

because there could be a million variables that effect climate change that not myself , you , or

top government scientist can prove 100%

the cause of climate change is never for certain

have you googled anything? what did you find?

did you find the numerous articles on this subject providing proof including the chemical composition of a lot of the toxic dumps they do from aeroplanes?

and no, your government does not want this stuff 'leaking out' - nor will they hand it to you on a silver platter - you wont see it on the news - or read about it in your papers.

they cant control the internet - but they have tried - a lot of articles on this topic have been taken down - because they hit too close to home with way too much evidence implicating them as the vile little lying leeches they really are.

my point is - just because you didnt see it on tv or read it in a magazine or no one walked up to you and said 'hey here's all the proof you'll never need about chemtrails' - it doesnt mean they dont exist.

its 2010 and people still laugh things like this off as presposterous - then in 20 years when the shit hits the fan they say "oh yeah. i remember they told me about them airplanes once. guess i should've listened"

no disrespect, but hey yo. the chemtrails topic is vast and includes many different areas so all i'm sayin is do the research before saying there's no scientific evidence that they exist - there is - and they do.

the chemical composition of the chem-trails is one issue, that they are being intentionally used to control the people is a whole other thing. A cover up is not the same as a conspiracy.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

robinhood said:

have you googled anything? what did you find?

did you find the numerous articles on this subject providing proof including the chemical composition of a lot of the toxic dumps they do from aeroplanes?

and no, your government does not want this stuff 'leaking out' - nor will they hand it to you on a silver platter - you wont see it on the news - or read about it in your papers.

they cant control the internet - but they have tried - a lot of articles on this topic have been taken down - because they hit too close to home with way too much evidence implicating them as the vile little lying leeches they really are.

my point is - just because you didnt see it on tv or read it in a magazine or no one walked up to you and said 'hey here's all the proof you'll never need about chemtrails' - it doesnt mean they dont exist.

its 2010 and people still laugh things like this off as presposterous - then in 20 years when the shit hits the fan they say "oh yeah. i remember they told me about them airplanes once. guess i should've listened"

no disrespect, but hey yo. the chemtrails topic is vast and includes many different areas so all i'm sayin is do the research before saying there's no scientific evidence that they exist - there is - and they do.

the chemical composition of the chem-trails is one issue, that they are being intentionally used to control the people is a whole other thing.

yes. and the cover-up is what makes it a conspiracy. no cover-up, no conspiracy. just fact.

robinhood said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

the chemical composition of the chem-trails is one issue, that they are being intentionally used to control the people is a whole other thing.

yes. and the cover-up is what makes it a conspiracy. no cover-up, no conspiracy. just fact.

Do you think that they are adding chemicals to the fuel to affect people?

And there is a distinction between a cover up and a conspiracy.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

robinhood said:

yes. and the cover-up is what makes it a conspiracy. no cover-up, no conspiracy. just fact.

Do you think that they are adding chemicals to the fuel to affect people?

And there is a distinction between a cover up and a conspiracy.

they outright dump massive amounts of all kinds of toxicity - over cities - and they lie about it - humanity is a slave race - bred to pay taxes - and they keep you dumbed down with all manner of poisons in your food, water, electronic devices, media - to totally mess up your mind so you wont question the status quo - and their laughable illusion of 'freedom' they give you - while you work your ass off just to eat - and pay taxes - to them - so they can take that money - 'the people' so graciously give them - and with it - they feed their war-machines - their viruses - their fraudulent fear campaigns - terrorism - usury - you name it - they will hook you up like pigs to whatever suits their needs...

i know. i've seen it with my own eyes.

lotusboy said:

I would venture to say Prince is probably more well read than ANY orger...thats right I said it...so until u catch up or keep up..u might wanna try and learn something from him.

lotusboy, their are all types of people on the org with many professions, some lawyers doctors teachers and students etc. for you to discredit their education is very unfair and is an insult

just because prince is rich and famous doesn't make him more well read than anyone including yourself

plus we dont even know what prince reads everyday, so we cant say hes less or more educated than us

robinhood said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

if the government really doesnt want evidence leaking out about chemtrails as you say,

then why is it that all you have to do is complete a simple google search to find this evidence?

if the government is as powerful as you say, wouldn't they control critical evidence from leaking

on the internet aswell ?

And are you saying climate change is the result of chemtrails?

because there could be a million variables that effect climate change that not myself , you , or

top government scientist can prove 100%

the cause of climate change is never for certain

have you googled anything? what did you find?

did you find the numerous articles on this subject providing proof including the chemical composition of a lot of the toxic dumps they do from aeroplanes?

and no, your government does not want this stuff 'leaking out' - nor will they hand it to you on a silver platter - you wont see it on the news - or read about it in your papers.

they cant control the internet - but they have tried - a lot of articles on this topic have been taken down - because they hit too close to home with way too much evidence implicating them as the vile little lying leeches they really are.

my point is - just because you didnt see it on tv or read it in a magazine or no one walked up to you and said 'hey here's all the proof you'll never need about chemtrails' - it doesnt mean they dont exist.

its 2010 and people still laugh things like this off as presposterous - then in 20 years when the shit hits the fan they say "oh yeah. i remember they told me about them airplanes once. guess i should've listened"

no disrespect, but hey yo. the chemtrails topic is vast and includes many different areas so all i'm sayin is do the research before saying there's no scientific evidence that they exist - there is - and they do.

yes , i googled it and i really don't know what to believe, it could be chemtrails maybe? or maybe not?

but how do we know these people are creditable ?

and just because some people created websites dedicated chemtrails on the internet means i should believe them ??

how do i know their research isnt phony or faulty ?

internet is full of all types of bogus information

and the more think about it i wonder how the hell can they can they get plausible evidence?

they have to do some type of experiments to show its effects on people

and they would have to first obtain the chemicals used by the government

you think the government is going to give people trying to "exposed" them access to these chemicals? hell to the naw

and for all we know the chemtrails could be a conspiracy that the government made up

to create panic and fear( you say chemicals are used as weapons to control the masses , but the government thrives on fear )

And no im not laughing at chemtrails, im just questioning it

robinhood said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Do you think that they are adding chemicals to the fuel to affect people?

And there is a distinction between a cover up and a conspiracy.

they outright dump massive amounts of all kinds of toxicity - over cities - and they lie about it - humanity is a slave race - bred to pay taxes - and they keep you dumbed down with all manner of poisons in your food, water, electronic devices, media - to totally mess up your mind so you wont question the status quo - and their laughable illusion of 'freedom' they give you - while you work your ass off just to eat - and pay taxes - to them - so they can take that money - 'the people' so graciously give them - and with it - they feed their war-machines - their viruses - their fraudulent fear campaigns - terrorism - usury - you name it - they will hook you up like pigs to whatever suits their needs...

i know. i've seen it with my own eyes.

ok, no one is bred pay taxes their are plenty of homeless, llegal aliens, celebrities ,wealthy people not paying taxes

if these chemtrails are suppose causes people to become so docile why is it that people are still committing crimes and still questioning the government? arent these chemicals suppose stop this behavior ?

these chemtrails could just be Jet fuel or contrails

1.)Contrail persistence is a function of air relative humidity

2.)On/off trails occur because the plane flies through pockets of dryer air.

3) Criss-cross patterns, asterisks, As, Vs, Xs in the sky form because planes follow radio beacons.

if they did dump chemicals, why would they do it in 32,000 in th air where it can easily be blown

away by wind patterns.

and Not to mention that spraying any kind of agent from such high altitudes is ineffective. You

could spray anthrax, VX, GB, or XYZ-QED from 30,000 ft and not hurt anyone, with the dispersion

and inactivation by sunlight and temperature swings

and if in fact these chemtrails do effect us how come people that are "in the know" such as your

self are not effected ?

[Edited 6/13/10 19:43pm]

I cannot determine the validity of Prince's conspiracies, but one quote I like is people have eyes, but do not see, and have ears, but do not hear. Thus, one should not totally disregard all conspiracy theories.

I have read a couple of very interesting books, "Freakonomics" and "Lies My Teacher Told Me", which can be found at most bookstores/on-line bookstores. Both will keep you thinking and are bound to spark good conversations, which is always a good thing.

In regards to the "microchip" theory, actually the technology already exists if parents want to use a tracking device for their children. And at the rate of child abuse and child abduction many people do not see this as a bad idea. Of course, mankind has the choice of whether or not to use inventions for good or bad. When Einstein split the atom, he wasn’t trying to make an atom bomb. Also, in "The War," I took this more as a metaphorical thing than a literal thing. "What is one willing to do to be secure or on the side of the government?" "How much of oneself are we willing to sell to be secure or gain a profit?" There were some Africans and Jews who worked with their captors and enslavers to save their own necks and line their own pockets so is the notion of receiving a microchip so far fetched?

robinhood said:

they outright dump massive amounts of all kinds of toxicity - over cities - and they lie about it - humanity is a slave race - bred to pay taxes - and they keep you dumbed down with all manner of poisons in your food, water, electronic devices, media - to totally mess up your mind so you wont question the status quo - and their laughable illusion of 'freedom' they give you - while you work your ass off just to eat - and pay taxes - to them - so they can take that money - 'the people' so graciously give them - and with it - they feed their war-machines - their viruses - their fraudulent fear campaigns - terrorism - usury - you name it - they will hook you up like pigs to whatever suits their needs...

i know. i've seen it with my own eyes.

I dunno anything about chemtrails, but this is the straight up truth.

1725topp said:

In regards to the "microchip" theory, actually the technology already exists if parents want to use a tracking device for their children. And at the rate of child abuse and child abduction many people do not see this as a bad idea. Of course, mankind has the choice of whether or not to use inventions for good or bad. When Einstein split the atom, he wasn’t trying to make an atom bomb. Also, in "The War," I took this more as a metaphorical thing than a literal thing. "What is one willing to do to be secure or on the side of the government?" "How much of oneself are we willing to sell to be secure or gain a profit?" There were some Africans and Jews who worked with their captors and enslavers to save their own necks and line their own pockets so is the notion of receiving a microchip so far fetched?

They have been doing these implants since 2002...

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...8641.shtml

The sheeple are so well conditioned that they actually pay for the privilege of being controlled...micro-chips, cameras, gps, etc.

PicklesMcMillan said:

lotusboy said:

I would venture to say Prince is probably more well read than ANY orger...thats right I said it...so until u catch up or keep up..u might wanna try and learn something from him.

lotusboy, their are all types of people on the org with many professions, some lawyers doctors teachers and students etc. for you to discredit their education is very unfair and is an insult

just because prince is rich and famous doesn't make him more well read than anyone including yourself

plus we dont even know what prince reads everyday, so we cant say hes less or more educated than us

EVEN DOCTORS AND LAWYERS READ..yes this is true...but Ive not heard any noise from anyone on here as WELL READ AS PRINCE IS...and if u knew about Prince enough to reply to this post, you'd know he reads a whole lot. But alas, you must be here to learn. oh, and $ has nothing to do with being well read. and your chosen name u use here is a sure sign your not a doctor/lawyer/teacher..but obviously a student. keep learning...we don't mind schoolin u!

lotusboy said:

I would venture to say Prince is probably more well read than ANY orger...thats right I said it...so until u catch up or keep up..u might wanna try and learn something from him.

the bible's the only book he reads. he's a peach.

errant said:

lotusboy said:

I would venture to say Prince is probably more well read than ANY orger...thats right I said it...so until u catch up or keep up..u might wanna try and learn something from him.

the bible's the only book he reads. he's a peach.

yes your right, he is a peach, but the bible is far from the only book he reads, or has read.

lotusboy said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

lotusboy, their are all types of people on the org with many professions, some lawyers doctors teachers and students etc. for you to discredit their education is very unfair and is an insult

just because prince is rich and famous doesn't make him more well read than anyone including yourself

plus we dont even know what prince reads everyday, so we cant say hes less or more educated than us

EVEN DOCTORS AND LAWYERS READ..yes this is true...but Ive not heard any noise from anyone on here as WELL READ AS PRINCE IS...and if u knew about Prince enough to reply to this post, you'd know he reads a whole lot. But alas, you must be here to learn. oh, and $ has nothing to do with being well read. and your chosen name u use here is a sure sign your not a doctor/lawyer/teacher..but obviously a student. keep learning...we don't mind schoolin u!

i cant even respond to you because your post so incoherent

and your rebuttal is off topic and never touched any of my points

and you insulted my screen name out of nowhere

i never said anything mean to you in my post lotusboy

so please dont insult me becuase you disagree with me

be nice

I am not so sure that Prince is all that bright or that well read (or a very good reader) at least not the terms of his recording contracts. How could it have come to a suprise to him that he did not own his masters?

PicklesMcMillan said:

lotusboy said:

EVEN DOCTORS AND LAWYERS READ..yes this is true...but Ive not heard any noise from anyone on here as WELL READ AS PRINCE IS...and if u knew about Prince enough to reply to this post, you'd know he reads a whole lot. But alas, you must be here to learn. oh, and $ has nothing to do with being well read. and your chosen name u use here is a sure sign your not a doctor/lawyer/teacher..but obviously a student. keep learning...we don't mind schoolin u!

i cant even respond to you because your post so incoherent

and your rebuttal is off topic and never touched any of my points

and you insulted my screen name out of nowhere

i never said anything mean to you in my post lotusboy

so please dont insult me becuase you disagree with me

be nice

u in fact did insult me by saying I insulted everyone on the org...there are some brilliant minds here, i did not insult your username either..that was an observation. Seeing my response as Incoherentness is due to comprehension issues, but keep trying..i aint mad at u.

lotusboy said:

errant said:

the bible's the only book he reads. he's a peach.

yes your right, he is a peach, but the bible is far from the only book he reads, or has read.

really? that JW New Translation of the Bible and Embraced by the Light. what else has he read?

errant said:

lotusboy said:

yes your right, he is a peach, but the bible is far from the only book he reads, or has read.

really? that JW New Translation of the Bible and Embraced by the Light. what else has he read?

Obviously works by Dorthy Parker....but besides that its obvious he reads tons of books, he's mentioned books he's read in scores of interviews and based on tons of songs, u couldnt learn half the stuff he knows if he didn't read..what makes u think he doesn't read?

lotusboy said:

errant said:

really? that JW New Translation of the Bible and Embraced by the Light. what else has he read?

Obviously works by Dorthy Parker....but besides that its obvious he reads tons of books, he's mentioned books he's read in scores of interviews and based on tons of songs, u couldnt learn half the stuff he knows if he didn't read..what makes u think he doesn't read?

he was boning a chick that was into Dorthy Parker and that's all he knows about her. you think he could even tell you the names of any of her work?

as for the other part. name some of these books. and point to some of these interviews and songs that reference them.

[Edited 6/13/10 18:37pm]

errant said:

lotusboy said:

yes your right, he is a peach, but the bible is far from the only book he reads, or has read.

really? that JW New Translation of the Bible and Embraced by the Light. what else has he read?

Obviously works by Dorthy Parker....but besides that its obvious he reads tons of books, he's mentioned books he's read in scores of interviews and based on tons of songs, u couldnt learn half the stuff he knows if he didn't read..what makes u think he doesn't read?