Reading the new Ebony made me see clearly that Prince is the same as ever.

Some of his best CONspiracies over the years include:

Chemtrails

The Staurous

The Presidents of the United States

Abraham Lincoln

What else???

sro100 said:

Reading the new Ebony made me see clearly that Prince is the same as ever.

Some of his best CONspiracies over the years include:

Chemtrails

The Staurous

The Presidents of the United States

Abraham Lincoln

What else???

9/11 (Osama is a myth and not related)

Obama's birth certificate (if he relaly is American, why don't they show it?)

USA economy

Iraq/Afghanistan

Etc

I hate to go down this trail, in a way. But Prince has latched on to some semi-radical ideas that are somewhat based in truth...sometimes.

At least with the last two on your list. There were various "presidents" before Washington, though not of the same status/caliber. With Lincoln, some of the ideas he held regarding black people during his time were seen as fairly progressive/liberal/take your pick of words here. However, many of the other things he said in regards to black people were the kinds of things are seen as very racist.

I guess I don't know what I'm really trying to say here. With any of these "CONspiracies," the issue is much larger than Prince and how he chooses to inform others about these things. The problem rests in the actions and decisions of many people over long periods of time. Personal gains and losses, beliefs, politics, and so on all play a massive role in the development/spreading/proving/debunking of any of these theories.

So in a way, Prince is just another person, like any one of us, searching for some sort of truth. We grasp what makes sense to us because of our experiences and beliefs, and let go that which does not.

The "problem" here is that Prince's beliefs, such as the four you listed, often manifest themselves in song. In reality, as a creator of art, he has every right to write about anything, regardless of his popularity or fanbase. Many of the fans, like us, "suffer" because of the strange vibes given off by some of these expressions in his music. At the end of the day, it's up to him to believe what he wants to believe and choose how to incorporate that into his music.

CerpinTaxt said:

Big Brother:

-microchip, in yo neck.

robinhood said:

Big Brother:

-microchip, in yo neck.

This one will be truth one day. Technology is here.

Now only we'll have to wait for the moment to carry the number of the beast.

That he can still pee on a record and a million people will buy it.

He shit out Lotus and not even half that bought it.

udo said:

robinhood said:

Big Brother:

-microchip, in yo neck.

This one will be truth one day. Technology is here.

Now only we'll have to wait for the moment to carry the number of the beast.

cats and dogs are already being microchipped. shopping addicts (consumers) suck up to the barcode. same thing. metaphoric microchipping began when people started believing money was the most important thing.

robinhood said:

udo said:

This one will be truth one day. Technology is here.

Now only we'll have to wait for the moment to carry the number of the beast.

cats and dogs are already being microchipped. shopping addicts (consumers) suck up to the barcode. same thing. metaphoric microchipping began when people started believing money was the most important thing.

That's kind of two ideas though. I think Prince was more referring to a chip in your body to keep track of your information. Kind of like a very secure ID system. It's already used on laptop computers with fingerprint IDing to keep your computer secure, and government agencies use it a lot, as well as eye ID. Some airports use face recognition, as do webcams that move when you move (unless you're black and it doesn't see you at all).

Yes, pets are chipped.

There's just no way I'll ever get a chip, or some tattoo on me that lets a computer know who I am or where I am. Hell, even a lot of cell phone's locations can be traced. How safe is your privacy anyway? (Note to people using Google Latitude.)

No one "sucked up" to the barcode though. You have to buy things to survive, and you can't get everything you need from a mom & pop stand...unless you furnish your house from garage sales and flea markets. But you're right about the money thing Even the Bible says "the love of money is the root of all evil" (not just money as most have misquoted). I remember churches and religious organizations freaking out when the barcode was introduced on a broader basis in the mid 1970's, especially since the number "6" was at the beginning, in the middle, and at the end of every barcode. (The number 6 is represented by two thin lines next to each other, and appear at the front, middle and end of a barcode). Therefore all barcodes had 666 embedded in them by default. Of course that led to more hysteria about the eventual "mark of the beast", and people thought that was coming to pass at that time. It wasn't of course, but it will.

I think we're a slave to the fact that we have to live, and that things we buy will always just have a barcode on them.

robinhood said:

cats and dogs are already being microchipped. shopping addicts (consumers) suck up to the barcode. same thing. metaphoric microchipping began when people started believing money was the most important thing.

This 'cri$i$' tells us money is nothing. It is created out of thin air when `needed` and it is losing value in the process.

And of course, this not a USA-only issue at this point in time.

Why can't we just have a few bankruptcies? A few failures? Soon thereafter recovery can start.

Now there is no recovery, just some extended stimulus-after-stimulus...

Conspiracy has been turned into a bad word or code speak to make you accept whatever is told to you.

People were told that a crazy man took his rifle and shot the President but 30 years later he has a w-4 form from both the CIA and the FBI.

People were told a racist shot a preacher one Thursday night because he hated Black people but were not told that he got have way around the world using identities of real people who looked like him and each had law enforcement backgrounds.

People were told of a crazy preacher making 900 people drink kood aid that was spiked with poison but his CIA file is still classified 32 years later.

People were told that a man in a cave told some guys to fly planes into buildings because they hate America but they are not told that the CIA and FBI knew they were in the country and people were fired by trying to get these people arrested.

So Prince may sound crazy now but will he sound crazy in the future when some of this stuff becomes common knowledge.

ernestsewell said:

robinhood said:

cats and dogs are already being microchipped. shopping addicts (consumers) suck up to the barcode. same thing. metaphoric microchipping began when people started believing money was the most important thing.

That's kind of two ideas though. I think Prince was more referring to a chip in your body to keep track of your information. Kind of like a very secure ID system. It's already used on laptop computers with fingerprint IDing to keep your computer secure, and government agencies use it a lot, as well as eye ID. Some airports use face recognition, as do webcams that move when you move (unless you're black and it doesn't see you at all).

Yes, pets are chipped.

There's just no way I'll ever get a chip, or some tattoo on me that lets a computer know who I am or where I am. Hell, even a lot of cell phone's locations can be traced. How safe is your privacy anyway? (Note to people using Google Latitude.)

No one "sucked up" to the barcode though. You have to buy things to survive, and you can't get everything you need from a mom & pop stand...unless you furnish your house from garage sales and flea markets. But you're right about the money thing Even the Bible says "the love of money is the root of all evil" (not just money as most have misquoted). I remember churches and religious organizations freaking out when the barcode was introduced on a broader basis in the mid 1970's, especially since the number "6" was at the beginning, in the middle, and at the end of every barcode. (The number 6 is represented by two thin lines next to each other, and appear at the front, middle and end of a barcode). Therefore all barcodes had 666 embedded in them by default. Of course that led to more hysteria about the eventual "mark of the beast", and people thought that was coming to pass at that time. It wasn't of course, but it will.

I think we're a slave to the fact that we have to live, and that things we buy will always just have a barcode on them.

yeah they did... people chase material things because of what they've been taught they represent. many people desperately scramble to keep up with the Jones's. swipe. swipe. swipe. its a total suck up to false values. they may not realise thats what they're doing, but that's what they're doing.

udo said:

robinhood said:

cats and dogs are already being microchipped. shopping addicts (consumers) suck up to the barcode. same thing. metaphoric microchipping began when people started believing money was the most important thing.

This 'cri$i$' tells us money is nothing. It is created out of thin air when `needed` and it is losing value in the process.

And of course, this not a USA-only issue at this point in time.

Why can't we just have a few bankruptcies? A few failures? Soon thereafter recovery can start.

Now there is no recovery, just some extended stimulus-after-stimulus...

delusionals participating in a delusional system.

muleFunk said:

Conspiracy has been turned into a bad word or code speak to make you accept whatever is told to you.

People were told that a crazy man took his rifle and shot the President but 30 years later he has a w-4 form from both the CIA and the FBI.

People were told a racist shot a preacher one Thursday night because he hated Black people but were not told that he got have way around the world using identities of real people who looked like him and each had law enforcement backgrounds.

People were told of a crazy preacher making 900 people drink kood aid that was spiked with poison but his CIA file is still classified 32 years later.

People were told that a man in a cave told some guys to fly planes into buildings because they hate America but they are not told that the CIA and FBI knew they were in the country and people were fired by trying to get these people arrested.

So Prince may sound crazy now but will he sound crazy in the future when some of this stuff becomes common knowledge.

What's the issue with Jim Jones here? How is there any level of conspiracy there?

All this beliefs of his clearly show one thing for me: he's an IGNORANT.

vitriol said:

All this beliefs of his clearly show one thing for me: he's an IGNORANT.

only in one respect: none of them are real in the context they were created in.

eg: chemtrails arent chemtrails in the sky - they're a manifestation of toxic thinking.

^Call it whatever.

The guy is able to believe anything.

No wonder he was trapped by a sect.

And then he talks about all this as if it were the most logical things in life.

vitriol said:

^Call it whatever.

The guy is able to believe anything.

No wonder he was trapped by a sect.

And then he talks about all this as if it were the most logical things in life.

a sect begets a sect, but whatever he has said about things like chemtrails and big brother, is not entirely fiction.

they just mean something other than what he thinks they mean.

It's up to you what you want to believe.

I can't waste time thinking of all that rubbish.

I forgot that the entire English language itself is filled with CONspiracies.

the thing about Lincoln is kinda true

Lincoln sent a letter to editor Horace Greeley and here alittle excerpt of the letter (read the whole thing , not just the underlined part !)

The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time

save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do morewhenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

clearly in this letter he cared more about the preserving the Union than the well-being of slaves

now im NOT saying hes a racist because we have no proof however if you do enough research you can move closer to finding the truth

[Edited 6/12/10 10:24am]

muleFunk said:

Conspiracy has been turned into a bad word or code speak to make you accept whatever is told to you.

People were told of a crazy preacher making 900 people drink kood aid that was spiked with poison but his CIA file is still classified 32 years later.

I don't think there is any worthy debate about what happened with this one!

and about chemtrails

there is no scientific evidence

but its safe to most planes leave some type of pollutant

Well, then it seems clear that Abe was not moved by his love to the black people and he only did it for the wellness of the Union.

OK, still HE DID IT, didn't he? Slaves were freed while he was a president.

Even with the wrong motives, it was HIM who put an end to that atrocity.

That's what counts in my book. And in ALL History books.

ufoclub said:

muleFunk said:

Conspiracy has been turned into a bad word or code speak to make you accept whatever is told to you.

People were told of a crazy preacher making 900 people drink kood aid that was spiked with poison but his CIA file is still classified 32 years later.

I don't think there is any worthy debate about what happened with this one!

I did not think so either until I found out the families of these victims caught all types of Hell trying to get their loved ones back to the states even then they were buried in a mass grave.

The CIA has a ton of files on Jim Jones and the Jonestown camp and WILL NOT release these files under FOIA. The site of the Jonestown camp is still being used by the Rabbi Emmanuel Isreal who claims that Blacks are the lost tribe of Isreal . One of his followers went into the Ebenezer Baptist Church in 1972 and tried to assassinate Coretta Scott King.He missed and killed Mama King who was MLK's mother.

The shit is crazy as Hell but true. Look it up.

The War is my favorite Prince song.

PicklesMcMillan said:

the thing about Lincoln is kinda true

Lincoln sent a letter to editor Horace Greeley and here alittle excerpt of the letter (read the whole thing , not just the underlined part !)

The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time

save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do morewhenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

clearly in this letter he cared more about the preserving the Union than the well-being of slaves

now im NOT saying hes a racist because we have no proof however if you do enough research you can move closer to finding the truth

[Edited 6/12/10 10:24am]

thank you for posting this.

Well you better check your history books, and more important who wrote them ........

To call Prince ignorant is well ............ ignorant

I m sure he checks his facts and is really looking for the truth, just because it s on paper or on the TV doesn't make it true......

News IS created .......

PicklesMcMillan said:

and about chemtrails

there is no scientific evidence

just because you havent been served evidence on a golden platter doesnt mean chemtrails dont exist. do you think that kind of evidence would be easy to find? considering WHO is implicated? since when would your government want evidence leaking out of their direct involvement in geo-engineering and climate change via chemtrails? do you think they want you to know how much they enjoy poisoning the air you breathe? these are the same people who poison your food, your water, your mind and cover-it up like they have for ages. thankfully there is evidence out there, if you google the right search terms.

robinhood said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

and about chemtrails

there is no scientific evidence

just because you havent been served evidence on a golden platter doesnt mean chemtrails dont exist. do you think that kind of evidence would be easy to find? considering WHO is implicated? since when would your government want evidence leaking out of their direct involvement in geo-engineering and climate change via chemtrails? do you think they want you to know how much they enjoy poisoning the air you breathe? these are the same people who poison your food, your water, your mind and cover-it up like they have for ages. thankfully there is evidence out there, if you google the right search terms.

if the government really doesnt want evidence leaking out about chemtrails as you say,

then why is it that all you have to do is complete a simple google search to find this evidence?

if the government is as powerful as you say, wouldn't they control critical evidence from leaking

on the internet aswell ?

And are you saying climate change is the result of chemtrails?

because there could be a million variables that effect climate change that not myself , you , or

top government scientist can prove 100%

the cause of climate change is never for certain