robinhood said:

crazydoctor said:

What else is the criteria?

musical skill, quality of composition, level of output, level of achievement, the overall contribution they make to the quality of music on the earth as a whole, their integrity, discipline, and whether or not they leave the world a better place than when they found it, and for how long after death they are remembered and listened to with great respect.

how many instruments they composed music for, how long are those pieces, in different languages, those who composed operas had to compose for dancers and singers and in different languages. even the pianists were absolutely brilliant. Prince cant play piano like mozart could.

I suppose Mozart could sing like Prince?

Graycap23 said:

robinhood said:

a lot of those composers wrote entire operas for every instrument in the orchestra.

its not about what music you like.

[Edited 6/4/10 10:04am]

Lol..........so how should I respond 2 the question?

What has Prince done in his career?

Prince has been in the music business every since 1978. He has been in the business for 32yrs

he plays a multi of instruments and has one varies awards . He is well respect by his fans but most of all he is the most misunderstood though his peers @ copyright edit

PicklesMcMillan said:

to count out all those other great artist is not fair....

Graycap23 said:

robinhood said:

musical skill, quality of composition, level of output, level of achievement, the overall contribution they make to the quality of music on the earth as a whole, their integrity, discipline, and whether or not they leave the world a better place than when they found it, and for how long after death they are remembered and listened to with great respect.

how many instruments they composed music for, how long are those pieces, in different languages, those who composed operas had to compose for dancers and singers and in different languages. even the pianists were absolutely brilliant. Prince cant play piano like mozart could.

I suppose Mozart could sing like Prince?

i dont know. but he died a pauper and was buried in a mass unmarked grave. would you like Prince to out-do him in that area as well?

That list of classical musicans cannot be compared to Prince. I appreciate ur knowledge of all those musicans who were innovators of there time, but those artists have been dead for 100-300 yrs ago and we dont know how Prince will be looked upon from 100+ years from now, but im sure it would be on the same level as artist like Mozart and Beethoven etc, and it will be studied dissected and will be a source of fascination too.

robinhood said:

Graycap23 said:

I suppose Mozart could sing like Prince?

i dont know. but he died a pauper and was buried in a mass unmarked grave. would you like Prince to out-do him in that area as well?

i though i will go to other area but.... Mozart can't sing like Prince.

picture it one moment.. See no.. ya'll ain't right..

catpark said:

That list of classical musicans cannot be compared to Prince. I appreciate ur knowledge of all those musicans who were innovators of there time, but those artists have been dead for 100-300 yrs ago and we dont know how Prince will be looked upon from 100+ years from now, but im sure it would be on the same level as artist like Mozart and Beethoven etc, and it will be studied dissected and will be a source of fascination too.

maybe, but the question is, is prince the greatest music artist of all time. i took it mean in the current context, is he the greatest 'up til now'.

we might have to wait another 300 years before we know the answer to 'of all time', but who knows what kinds of musicians will be making music in 300 years?

robinhood said:

Graycap23 said:

I suppose Mozart could sing like Prince?

i dont know. but he died a pauper and was buried in a mass unmarked grave. would you like Prince to out-do him in that area as well?

Guess what?.......Everybody else here knows. He could NOT.

Case closed.

robinhood said:

catpark said:

That list of classical musicans cannot be compared to Prince. I appreciate ur knowledge of all those musicans who were innovators of there time, but those artists have been dead for 100-300 yrs ago and we dont know how Prince will be looked upon from 100+ years from now, but im sure it would be on the same level as artist like Mozart and Beethoven etc, and it will be studied dissected and will be a source of fascination too.

maybe, but the question is, is prince the greatest music artist of all time. i took it mean in the current context, is he the greatest 'up til now'.

I think it did, but I for one and majority of other people cannot relate to the classical musicans on a level. how i see it, i wasn't there 300 years ago, a totally different world.

we might have to wait another 300 years before we know the answer to 'of all time', but who knows what kinds of musicians will be making music in 300 years?

Exactly. music will be made but it will be so diluted, instruments will be ancient antiques and if u want to hear music u'll make it urself with ur personal android, i can see that happening! lol

robinhood said:

crazydoctor said:

What else is the criteria?

musical skill, quality of composition, level of output, level of achievement, the overall contribution they make to the quality of music on the earth as a whole, their integrity, discipline, and whether or not they leave the world a better place than when they found it, and for how long after death they are remembered and listened to with great respect.

how many instruments they composed music for, how long are those pieces, in different languages, those who composed operas had to compose for dancers and singers and in different languages. even the pianists were absolutely brilliant. Prince cant play piano like mozart could.

actually we don't really know the true level of piano playing he has.he hasn't really demonstrated that.he has been playing from childhood but we r more familiar with his guitar playing b cuz we c and hear it more.

catpark said:

That list of classical musicans cannot be compared to Prince. I appreciate ur knowledge of all those musicans who were innovators of there time, but those artists have been dead for 100-300 yrs ago and we dont know how Prince will be looked upon from 100+ years from now, but im sure it would be on the same level as artist like Mozart and Beethoven etc, and it will be studied dissected and will be a source of fascination too.

Nonsense. For one, Prince isn't an innovator. No Sly Stone = no Prince.

BartVanHemelen said:

catpark said:

That list of classical musicans cannot be compared to Prince. I appreciate ur knowledge of all those musicans who were innovators of there time, but those artists have been dead for 100-300 yrs ago and we dont know how Prince will be looked upon from 100+ years from now, but im sure it would be on the same level as artist like Mozart and Beethoven etc, and it will be studied dissected and will be a source of fascination too.

Nonsense. For one, Prince isn't an innovator. No Sly Stone = no Prince.

Ermmm did i say Prince was an innovator? No

Also u can't use the Sly thing again, which artist do u know that wasn't influence by someone?

[Edited 6/4/10 11:48am]

BartVanHemelen said:

catpark said:

That list of classical musicans cannot be compared to Prince. I appreciate ur knowledge of all those musicans who were innovators of there time, but those artists have been dead for 100-300 yrs ago and we dont know how Prince will be looked upon from 100+ years from now, but im sure it would be on the same level as artist like Mozart and Beethoven etc, and it will be studied dissected and will be a source of fascination too.

Nonsense. For one, Prince isn't an innovator. No Sly Stone = no Prince.

Prince ISNT an innovator? Are you sure? Not at all? Not even one little bit?

U say No Sly=No Prince... How about....

No Prince = No Lenny Kravitz

No Prince = No Terrence Trent Darby

No Prince = No ready for the World

No Prince = No Justin Timberlake (solo career)

No Prince = No JC Chavez (Solo Career...not that he really had a good one, but still)

No Prince = No Most current male singers that use a falsetto voice

Everyone has an influence. Just because you yourself have been influenced by someone else, does not automatically disqualify you from being an innovator.

ronnwinter said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Nonsense. For one, Prince isn't an innovator. No Sly Stone = no Prince.

Prince ISNT an innovator? Are you sure? Not at all? Not even one little bit?

U say No Sly=No Prince... How about....

No Prince = No Lenny Kravitz

No Prince = No Terrence Trent Darby

No Prince = No ready for the World

No Prince = No Justin Timberlake (solo career)

No Prince = No JC Chavez (Solo Career...not that he really had a good one, but still)

No Prince = No Most current male singers that use a falsetto voice

Everyone has an influence. Just because you yourself have been influenced by someone else, does not automatically disqualify you from being an innovator.

Curtis Mayfield ???

ronnwinter said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Nonsense. For one, Prince isn't an innovator. No Sly Stone = no Prince.

Prince ISNT an innovator? Are you sure? Not at all? Not even one little bit?

U say No Sly=No Prince... How about....

No Prince = No Lenny Kravitz

No Prince = No Terrence Trent Darby

No Prince = No ready for the World

No Prince = No Justin Timberlake (solo career)

No Prince = No JC Chavez (Solo Career...not that he really had a good one, but still)

No Prince = No Most current male singers that use a falsetto voice

Everyone has an influence. Just because you yourself have been influenced by someone else, does not automatically disqualify you from being an innovator.

Philip Bailey ?

ronnwinter said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Nonsense. For one, Prince isn't an innovator. No Sly Stone = no Prince.

Prince ISNT an innovator? Are you sure? Not at all? Not even one little bit?

U say No Sly=No Prince... How about....

No Prince = No Lenny Kravitz

No Prince = No Terrence Trent Darby

No Prince = No ready for the World

No Prince = No Justin Timberlake (solo career)

No Prince = No JC Chavez (Solo Career...not that he really had a good one, but still)

No Prince = No Most current male singers that use a falsetto voice

Everyone has an influence. Just because you yourself have been influenced by someone else, does not automatically disqualify you from being an innovator.

Dude, if that's his legacy...

Oh, and Prince is the first artist to sing in falsetto? And I'm supposed to take lessons from you?

Did Sly Stone have influences? Sure, but that didn't stop him from revolutionizing funk and soul. But Prince? Sure, the Minneapolis Sound -- but that's not his invention, nor is it that original.

[Edited 6/4/10 14:53pm]

Graycap23 said:

robinhood said:

a lot of those composers wrote entire operas for every instrument in the orchestra.

its not about what music you like.

[Edited 6/4/10 10:04am]

Lol..........so how should I respond 2 the question?

What has Prince done in his career?

I'd argue that Prince is more like those classical musicians than most people realize. They are multi-instrumentalists who write complex arrangements and have a few "greatest hits" appreciated by millions, and huge catalogs that are mostly ignored/not understood by the unappreciative masses.

They do certain things better than he does, and he does certain things better than they do (or things they never even thought of).

Greatest of all time is a tough call for anyone, but it's not laughable to put Prince in the discussion.

the better way to approach it is to ask: what are Prince's innovations?

But remember innovation is not the same as inventing. you need not be the first to do something in order to be innovative.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

the better way to approach it is to ask: what are Prince's innovations?

But remember innovation is not the same as inventing. you need not be the first to do something in order to be innovative.

innovation is only one aspect of art.

Bach was seen as old fashioned back in his own time, but after his death he was seen as the greatest of the style of music he did, and maybe the greatest of all classical musicians, because of his total mastery

BartVanHemelen said:

ronnwinter said:

Prince ISNT an innovator? Are you sure? Not at all? Not even one little bit?

U say No Sly=No Prince... How about....

No Prince = No Lenny Kravitz

No Prince = No Terrence Trent Darby

No Prince = No ready for the World

No Prince = No Justin Timberlake (solo career)

No Prince = No JC Chavez (Solo Career...not that he really had a good one, but still)

No Prince = No Most current male singers that use a falsetto voice

Everyone has an influence. Just because you yourself have been influenced by someone else, does not automatically disqualify you from being an innovator.

Dude, if that's his legacy...

Oh, and Prince is the first artist to sing in falsetto? And I'm supposed to take lessons from you?

Did Sly Stone have influences? Sure, but that didn't stop him from revolutionizing funk and soul. But Prince? Sure, the Minneapolis Sound -- but that's not his invention, nor is it that original.

[Edited 6/4/10 14:53pm]

But does having invention or doing something original make it great? it doesn't. With everything around us nowadays and for awhile things are just constantly being reproduced with the intent of making it better than the last person and making it their own product, theres nothing original anymore.

yankem said:

Jeff Buckley?

YES.

Nuff said-no debate or statements needed

2the9s said:

When you say "of all time," I think you are linmiting it to this particular universe (i.e. *this* space/time continuum) whereas many scientists suspect there might be more than one universe, a so-called "multiverse."

So you might want to qualify your rather modest statement by saying that he is the greatest music artist of the *multiverse." Just a suggestion.

Technically we have a Prince for each parallel earth. It is known that there are differences between people from different earths (for exemple, Superman from Earth 1 is quite different from Superman from Earth 2 and from Superboy Prime), therefore we'd have to make sure that OUR earth's version of Prince is the best one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...DC_Comics)

databank said:

2the9s said:

When you say "of all time," I think you are linmiting it to this particular universe (i.e. *this* space/time continuum) whereas many scientists suspect there might be more than one universe, a so-called "multiverse."

So you might want to qualify your rather modest statement by saying that he is the greatest music artist of the *multiverse." Just a suggestion.

Technically we have a Prince for each parallel earth. It is known that there are differences between people from different earths (for exemple, Superman from Earth 1 is quite different from Superman from Earth 2 and from Superboy Prime), therefore we'd have to make sure that OUR earth's version of Prince is the best one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...DC_Comics)

I wish I could got to a few of those to get the alternate albums.

databank said:

2the9s said:

When you say "of all time," I think you are linmiting it to this particular universe (i.e. *this* space/time continuum) whereas many scientists suspect there might be more than one universe, a so-called "multiverse."

So you might want to qualify your rather modest statement by saying that he is the greatest music artist of the *multiverse." Just a suggestion.

Technically we have a Prince for each parallel earth. It is known that there are differences between people from different earths (for exemple, Superman from Earth 1 is quite different from Superman from Earth 2 and from Superboy Prime), therefore we'd have to make sure that OUR earth's version of Prince is the best one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...DC_Comics)

The symbol guy was an alternate Prince that temporarily invaded our universe...

Spooky Electric is a clone of Prince from an alternate future where the universe has been taken over by Sentinels...

.

[Edited 6/5/10 7:55am]

PicklesMcMillan said:

he might just be

i find myself going deeper into the rabbithole when i listen to his musc

i swear im getting crazier ,crazier by the day no lie

my dad said he caught me doing crazy hand movements & scrunching up my face when i was listening to prince ( he probably was like that girl needs help ,like he always says )

i can help though i GET INTO the music and sometimes i cant help myself

please!!!!!!!!!!!

zaza said:

yankem said:

Curtis Mayfield ???

Jeff Buckley?

No, I just wanted to say that people singing in falsetto did not start with Prince, it existed before (Philip Bailey, Curtis Mayfield to name a few...)

zaza said:

One of the greatest? Yes. The greatest? No.

i'm not trying to get flamed, but TO ME he was just an eccentric pop star who is a GREAT musician....so the answer is NO.....lol ppl act like he's some sort of god....."hear ye hear ye all hail the purple one"