JoeTyler said:

MacDaddy said:

JoeTaylor, you brave, crazy fool

Watch out, the Fammies will enter in 4, 3, 2, 1....

In my defence, I wanna say that we're talking ABOUT SALES & POPULARITY here, not the quality of the music that Prince has released since 1987...

His popularity might increase due the nostalgia effect it would have but music sales today are not what they would've been in the 80's. Those days are gone.

Again...it's not about being a star and it's not about record sales. It's about quality work and relevance.

If you believe that Prince's studio output since the fall of the Revolution has been of the same quality that we were spoiled by at that time...again, to each his own but I really think you're in denial.

ernestsewell said:

Graycap23 said:

Artistically.............it is a CRIME 2 the Canvas 2 paint the SAME picture over and over again.

Not true. Many of the greatest had recurring images and themes.

Salvador Dali painted "soft watches", his wife Gala's visage, black ants (representing decay), his own profile, and his town of Figueres, Catalonia, Spain in many of his paintings.

ah... but this is an instance of the same subject never twice, not the same painting. There is a bit of a difference.

hollywooddove said:

ernestsewell said:

Not true. Many of the greatest had recurring images and themes.

Salvador Dali painted "soft watches", his wife Gala's visage, black ants (representing decay), his own profile, and his town of Figueres, Catalonia, Spain in many of his paintings.

ah... but this is an instance of the same subject never twice, not the same painting. There is a bit of a difference.

How many paintings are okay with Gala's face? How many are okay with the same landscape and background?

Prince And The Revolution again isn't a bad thing. It doesn't mean they're rerecording their 3 album catalog. It means they'd be coming together as a team to create something new. You look for the newness as much as the familiarity.

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ernestsewell said:

hollywooddove said:

ah... but this is an instance of the same subject never twice, not the same painting. There is a bit of a difference.

How many paintings are okay with Gala's face? How many are okay with the same landscape and background?

Prince And The Revolution again isn't a bad thing. It doesn't mean they're rerecording their 3 album catalog. It means they'd be coming together as a team to create something new. You look for the newness as much as the familiarity.

Oh I don't believe it a bad thing, but I don't think it would make Prince a star again, or better said as the 80's sensation to the pop world that he once was, I simply think the Rev has done all it is supposed to do, and Prince obviously believed that the sound was going no where... so he braved it without them... which was a brave move.

It was true step out of a comfort zone I would think,,,, but maybe I'm wrong... I can only assume what his feelings were.

StonedImmaculate said:

Again...it's not about being a star and it's not about record sales. It's about quality work and relevance.

If you believe that Prince's studio output since the fall of the Revolution has been of the same quality that we were spoiled by at that time...again, to each his own but I really think you're in denial.

Consider how much Prince has evolved and the same of Wendy & Lisa (who were probably his most influential collaborators) you probably won't get the same results as the 80's. Prince output since the Revolution breakup may have disappointed some fans but I think areunion with lackluster output would be worse and tarnish a great legacy of that time.

HonestMan13 said:

StonedImmaculate said:

Again...it's not about being a star and it's not about record sales. It's about quality work and relevance.

If you believe that Prince's studio output since the fall of the Revolution has been of the same quality that we were spoiled by at that time...again, to each his own but I really think you're in denial.

Consider how much Prince has evolved and the same of Wendy & Lisa (who were probably his most influential collaborators) you probably won't get the same results as the 80's. Prince output since the Revolution breakup may have disappointed some fans but I think areunion with lackluster output would be worse and tarnish a great legacy of that time.

Most definitely true. There is that risk...kinda like George Lucas going back and doing Star Wars I-III. Definitely tarnished his legacy.

This is all a fantasy because we know it will never happen, but if it did and Prince truly allowed Wendy and Lisa and even Sheila to have a strong input and say so on what goes into the new stuff...the sky's the limit.

But again...Prince will never concede that much control again. I think one of the main reasons he wouldnt is that he is well aware that this is what a lot of his fans wish for. Following thru with this would be an admission that he was "better" then than he is now.

"Never!" said the Prince.

Prince's hits are always tied to pussy.

Here me out on this.

He scored a major hit with the album 1999 because he was drowning in pussy at the time. Purple Rain came out and he was having him some Vanity pussy.

When Sign of The Times and LoveSexy came out, they failed to sell as many records as PR because Prince was sleeping with Cat Glover--who it is arguable may or may not have possessed a pussy. So, the USA didn't dig it as much as it could. However, LoveSexy did very well in the UK, because they are relatively gay over there and dig chicks with dicks, or at least the idea that the chick next to them might not have a pussy.

The Prince fucked Kim Bassigner, and YOU KNOW she had some prime time pussy back in those days, and he scored a major hit with Batman.

When Graffiti Bridge came out, the pussy there was provided by Ingrid Chavez. However, that was sterile poetic pussy which seldom leads to much excitment, so the USA didn't dig it.

Then Diamonds & Pearls came out. ONe could argue Prince scored his first major hit (not tied to a soundtrack) due to the pussy being provided by Diamond or Pearl; however, there is no evidence that he was sleeping with either women.

There is, however, TONS of evidence that Prince was using his OWN BOI-PUSSY almost nightly on the Act I tour.

In recent years, Prince's pussyventures have been sporadic and often laced with a certain amount of desperation. At 51 years of age, attending high fashion shows in Paris accompanied by a much younger looking female companion who looks a bit like a cross between an extra in a Janet Jackson video and an Egyptian hooker, just makes you look sort of...well, silly.

So again.. It's all tied to pussy.

^^^ I know he was sleeping with Mayte Garcia who had that wonderful first class groupie-wanna-be-famous-at-any-cost pussy, but let's face---her pussy was only on loan to him from Tommy Lee, unbeknownst to both of them at that time. So, no hits.

TheVoid said:

Prince's hits are always tied to pussy.

Here me out on this.

He scored a major hit with the album 1999 because he was drowning in pussy at the time. Purple Rain came out and he was having him some Vanity pussy.

When Sign of The Times and LoveSexy came out, they failed to sell as many records as PR because Prince was sleeping with Cat Glover--who it is arguable may or may not have possessed a pussy. So, the USA didn't dig it as much as it could. However, LoveSexy did very well in the UK, because they are relatively gay over there and dig chicks with dicks, or at least the idea that the chick next to them might not have a pussy.

The Prince fucked Kim Bassigner, and YOU KNOW she had some prime time pussy back in those days, and he scored a major hit with Batman.

When Graffiti Bridge came out, the pussy there was provided by Ingrid Chavez. However, that was sterile poetic pussy which seldom leads to much excitment, so the USA didn't dig it.

Then Diamonds & Pearls came out. ONe could argue Prince scored his first major hit (not tied to a soundtrack) due to the pussy being provided by Diamond or Pearl; however, there is no evidence that he was sleeping with either women.

There is, however, TONS of evidence that Prince was using his OWN BOI-PUSSY almost nightly on the Act I tour.

In recent years, Prince's pussyventures have been sporadic and often laced with a certain amount of desperation. At 51 years of age, attending high fashion shows in Paris accompanied by a much younger looking female companion who looks a bit like a cross between an extra in a Janet Jackson video and an Egyptian hooker, just makes you look sort of...well, silly.

So again.. It's all tied to pussy.

Gee, I wonder why The Org isn't taken seriously.

^ I lol'd

TheVoid said:

StonedImmaculate said:

Again...it's not about being a star and it's not about record sales. It's about quality work and relevance.

If you believe that Prince's studio output since the fall of the Revolution has been of the same quality that we were spoiled by at that time...again, to each his own but I really think you're in denial.

here we go again...

This thread IS about how popular a comeback of the Revolution would be; I'm not talking about the quality/relevance of the music that Prince has released without them...

TheVoid said:

Prince's hits are always tied to pussy.

Here me out on this.

He scored a major hit with the album 1999 because he was drowning in pussy at the time. Purple Rain came out and he was having him some Vanity pussy.

When Sign of The Times and LoveSexy came out, they failed to sell as many records as PR because Prince was sleeping with Cat Glover--who it is arguable may or may not have possessed a pussy. So, the USA didn't dig it as much as it could. However, LoveSexy did very well in the UK, because they are relatively gay over there and dig chicks with dicks, or at least the idea that the chick next to them might not have a pussy.

The Prince fucked Kim Bassigner, and YOU KNOW she had some prime time pussy back in those days, and he scored a major hit with Batman.

When Graffiti Bridge came out, the pussy there was provided by Ingrid Chavez. However, that was sterile poetic pussy which seldom leads to much excitment, so the USA didn't dig it.

Then Diamonds & Pearls came out. ONe could argue Prince scored his first major hit (not tied to a soundtrack) due to the pussy being provided by Diamond or Pearl; however, there is no evidence that he was sleeping with either women.

There is, however, TONS of evidence that Prince was using his OWN BOI-PUSSY almost nightly on the Act I tour.

In recent years, Prince's pussyventures have been sporadic and often laced with a certain amount of desperation. At 51 years of age, attending high fashion shows in Paris accompanied by a much younger looking female companion who looks a bit like a cross between an extra in a Janet Jackson video and an Egyptian hooker, just makes you look sort of...well, silly.

So again.. It's all tied to pussy.

Yeah, and that's why 3121 was a nº1 album; he fucked two muscular and sweaty pussies at the same time (the Twins!!)

g3121 said:

I'm 22, i've been a fan since primary school. my answer to your question is that at secondary school most kids had no idea who he was and now, they do. i'm at university and so i mix with many many different people of my age every day. most people i meet (18-25) know Prince, well, generally they know 'kiss' 'thmgitw' 'guitar' and 'musicology'.. sometimes 'Black Sweat'. Most don't know 'purple rain' although a few associate the phrase with Prince. The work that most seem to know is post-revolution Prince.. and even if they knew songs by Prince and the revolution they most certainly couldn't pick the revolution out of a line up visually or musically. Most didn't even know Prince has a backing band, be it the rev or the npg. So if he was looking to boost sales in my age group (teens/twenties) whether or not he was to get back with the band would make no difference. Also, to the people I know, prince is a big star, they all ask me when they see his symbol round my neck 1. why he did it 2. is he gay 3. did he remove any ribs and 4. what other songs has he made besides the above 4 or 5.. when you begin to drop names at least half of them go 'he did that?' i mean he is seen as a bit odd but is respected among my age group and is respected as a star, in fact, most hadn't heard of him until his resurge in popular culture with musicology and then his planet earth tour/giveaway. so to most people i know, prince is a bigger star in the last few years than he was back in the mid-80s. and i really wouldn't say prince ever stopped being a star, but he became recognised as hip again, and picked upon by people not exposed to him before between 2004-2007.. so no, prince doesn't NEED the revolution. if he WANTS them, then that's different. Perhaps for the over 40s then the rev would make more of a difference as that's who prince was when they first got into him, but for the people i know, of my age group, prince's star was actually at it's highest in the last 5 years of this decade, not 25 years ago like so many people round here seem to think.. either way i don't believe prince needs anyone musically.

Wow! You sound like my daughter lol, She's the same age as you but i raised her on all of the greats no matter the era with prince being the focus. All i can say is great insight, the truth is the children move the needle, they recognize his greatness but they have their own stars. The reunion would be big with us because most of us were in our formative years when the revolution became his signiture vehicle. The Revolution reunion if done correctly and in conjunction with remasters, docu's, and Tv specials would do big business. Thats the one tour he could charge us an arm and a leg for and get it, with the original Time opening i'd pay 200 for nosebleeds lol. Look at the stones, they've been gauging baby boomers for years! lol. Once again young lady thanks for the insight, but all i can say about his peak is you had to be there.

PRINCE AND THE REVOLUTION 'PURPLE REIGN 2010' REUNION TOUR

Tour takes place this summer.New album arrives in the fall

just trying to ponder the possibilities

NO!!! He never stopped being a star. Stupid question... next.

There is that risk...kinda like George Lucas going back and doing Star Wars I-III. Definitely tarnished his legacy.

What Star Wars is to George Lucas does not equal what The Revolution is to Prince.

Also, I would add that--although the Prequels may have upset older fans of Star Wars and divided critics, the new films were each all time mega hits, hella blockbusters, and gained George Lucas a few more generations of Star Wars fans. They weren't bombs by any sense of the word. Prince would be lucky to "tarnish his legacy" like that. The kind of massive appeal that Star Wars has is exactly the kind of mass appeal the original poster is talking about.

Lastly, George Lucas made Howard the Duck. If that didn't "tarnish his legacy" nothing will. The same could be said of Prince and Grafitti Bridge.

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JoeTyler said:

muscular and sweaty pussies

Romance is alive and well I see.

SoulAlive said:

PRINCE AND THE REVOLUTION 'PURPLE REIGN 2010' REUNION TOUR

Tour takes place this summer.New album arrives in the fall

just trying to ponder the possibilities

please, I'd be right on it, it would shoot Prince 2 the top again

and I bet he would have the Time on the show

Like at Coachella, when Morris & Jerome opened followed by Sheila

Prince said (2007) This is how it was supposed to be. And people say "Prince never looks back, Prince doesn't go back etc etc" Please.

And I bet the band could get him to do some other outtakes

hollywooddove said:

ernestsewell said:

How many paintings are okay with Gala's face? How many are okay with the same landscape and background?

Prince And The Revolution again isn't a bad thing. It doesn't mean they're rerecording their 3 album catalog. It means they'd be coming together as a team to create something new. You look for the newness as much as the familiarity.

Oh I don't believe it a bad thing, but I don't think it would make Prince a star again, or better said as the 80's sensation to the pop world that he once was, I simply think the Rev has done all it is supposed to do, and Prince obviously believed that the sound was going no where... so he braved it without them... which was a brave move.

It was true step out of a comfort zone I would think,,,, but maybe I'm wrong... I can only assume what his feelings were.

Totally disagree

Just by the amount of outtakes and boots from the 1986 period alone, shows the Revolution wasn't done yet.

To say that sound (what sound? from 1999 Purple Rain ATWIAD the Family Parade)? which one because each is very unique...

That same sound was continued with Sign o the Times, SOTT was not a Sheila E. Levi Boni Cat Mico album. That music was Dream Factory/Revolution/Susannah Melvoin + Prince. Just because the Revolution wasn't his backing band didn't negate that. Even music from the Black album came from that 1986 era... there is a reason Susannah is the backing lead on Rock Hard In A Funky Place

I guess Tony M had what it took to take Prince where it was happening. Prince got lost in the swirl of 1990's heavy hip hop influence music.

scandalousalan said:

TheVoid said:

Prince's hits are always tied to pussy.

Here me out on this.

He scored a major hit with the album 1999 because he was drowning in pussy at the time. Purple Rain came out and he was having him some Vanity pussy.

When Sign of The Times and LoveSexy came out, they failed to sell as many records as PR because Prince was sleeping with Cat Glover--who it is arguable may or may not have possessed a pussy. So, the USA didn't dig it as much as it could. However, LoveSexy did very well in the UK, because they are relatively gay over there and dig chicks with dicks, or at least the idea that the chick next to them might not have a pussy.

Hahaha, aw that brightened my day, funny shit that

The Prince fucked Kim Bassigner, and YOU KNOW she had some prime time pussy back in those days, and he scored a major hit with Batman.

When Graffiti Bridge came out, the pussy there was provided by Ingrid Chavez. However, that was sterile poetic pussy which seldom leads to much excitment, so the USA didn't dig it.

Then Diamonds & Pearls came out. ONe could argue Prince scored his first major hit (not tied to a soundtrack) due to the pussy being provided by Diamond or Pearl; however, there is no evidence that he was sleeping with either women.

There is, however, TONS of evidence that Prince was using his OWN BOI-PUSSY almost nightly on the Act I tour.

In recent years, Prince's pussyventures have been sporadic and often laced with a certain amount of desperation. At 51 years of age, attending high fashion shows in Paris accompanied by a much younger looking female companion who looks a bit like a cross between an extra in a Janet Jackson video and an Egyptian hooker, just makes you look sort of...well, silly.

So again.. It's all tied to pussy.

With the utterance of "sterile poetic pussy," we have reached the zenith of the org.

Might as well shut 'er down, now.

SoulAlive said:

PRINCE AND THE REVOLUTION 'PURPLE REIGN 2010' REUNION TOUR

Tour takes place this summer.New album arrives in the fall

just trying to ponder the possibilities

Where can I buy tickets in advance?????

skywalker said:

There is that risk...kinda like George Lucas going back and doing Star Wars I-III. Definitely tarnished his legacy.

What Star Wars is to George Lucas does not equal what The Revolution is to Prince.

Also, I would add that--although the Prequels may have upset older fans of Star Wars and divided critics, the new films were each all time mega hits, hella blockbusters, and gained George Lucas a few more generations of Star Wars fans. They weren't bombs by any sense of the word. Prince would be lucky to "tarnish his legacy" like that. The kind of massive appeal that Star Wars has is exactly the kind of mass appeal the original poster is talking about.

Lastly, George Lucas made Howard the Duck. If that didn't "tarnish his legacy" nothing will. The same could be said of Prince and Grafitti Bridge.

Great post, thanks for that! Most of the people who complained about the prequels were those who were kids/teens during the original trilogy (the same people who forced out the DVDs of the 'unaltered' trilogy), a group of people not being satisfied does not make a legacy "tarnished". And yes, that applies Come and Chaos & Disorder not tarnishing the legacy of Prince of the 80s. In fact, I'm not even sure if such thing exists, a more recent piece of art nullifying another piece from the past.

Baby, HE'S a star....

SherryJackson said:

Baby, HE'S a star....

They all just look so well 2gether, planets revolving around the sun

There is something about people who knew him when he was still trying to make it. He was a superstar at this point but was still hungry and not Hollywood yet

^^^^ Oh My God! Can we post links now?!???!!!!!!!!!

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

^^^^ Oh My God! Can we post links now?!???!!!!!!!!!

No.

That clip looks like it´s lifted from the officially released Syracuse show, not the Atlanta show.

TheVoid said:

Prince's hits are always tied to pussy.

Here me out on this.

He scored a major hit with the album 1999 because he was drowning in pussy at the time. Purple Rain came out and he was having him some Vanity pussy.

When Sign of The Times and LoveSexy came out, they failed to sell as many records as PR because Prince was sleeping with Cat Glover--who it is arguable may or may not have possessed a pussy. So, the USA didn't dig it as much as it could. However, LoveSexy did very well in the UK, because they are relatively gay over there and dig chicks with dicks, or at least the idea that the chick next to them might not have a pussy.

The Prince fucked Kim Bassigner, and YOU KNOW she had some prime time pussy back in those days, and he scored a major hit with Batman.

When Graffiti Bridge came out, the pussy there was provided by Ingrid Chavez. However, that was sterile poetic pussy which seldom leads to much excitment, so the USA didn't dig it.

Then Diamonds & Pearls came out. ONe could argue Prince scored his first major hit (not tied to a soundtrack) due to the pussy being provided by Diamond or Pearl; however, there is no evidence that he was sleeping with either women.

There is, however, TONS of evidence that Prince was using his OWN BOI-PUSSY almost nightly on the Act I tour.

In recent years, Prince's pussyventures have been sporadic and often laced with a certain amount of desperation. At 51 years of age, attending high fashion shows in Paris accompanied by a much younger looking female companion who looks a bit like a cross between an extra in a Janet Jackson video and an Egyptian hooker, just makes you look sort of...well, silly.

So again.. It's all tied to pussy.