WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU???



I mean, it's been 4 years since the release of Prince's BEST & MOST POPULAR album of the 00s decade, and there are still MANY people that dislike or loathe this album as one of the man's worst.

WTF???

I mean, to each his own, but there are some instant neo-classics on that record: TITLE-TRACK (how can anyone dislike this groovy song? ) , Black Sweat, Fury, The Word, Satisfied, Lolita, Love, The Dance...)

I just don't get it...the album was strong (much better than Musicology anyway), the production was hip, the song order was perfect, and it had plenty of different styles (pop singles, electro, funk, soul, rock, salsa, etc.)...
Ok, there are a couple of slighty disposable (yet enjoyable) tracks (TAC, BL&B, I&C), but the rest of the album is top-notch...On top of that, it's the best summer record that the man has done in his entire career, I mean, 3121and a hot beach party? Ok, THIS I LIKE

3121 was the best mainstream album that Prince could do at that point of his career...WE NEED mainstream albums from time to time...we also need stuff like TRC and LotusFlower, but without albums like 3121 the man's career would be just

To the 3121 haters: I don't trust you...




Discuss...


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I don't see how anyone could hate 3121!It was a great album.Every track was fantastic!I mean who could resist the imagination he sparked with the lyrics to the song 3121?Who wouldn't want to come to that!

HATE ?

who does....?

not me-cool album

polkadotbliss said:

there are many orgers around here that dislike / loathe the album

where are U?

drinkin champagne from a glass with chocolate handles thankyou

Except for the title track, the rest is utter crap, imho.

I can still remember how I cringed when Lolita started to play on my first listen. I never thought Prince could do something that horrible.

I couldn't understand how Prince put out such a lame record, but well, soon after he did it much worse: Planet Earth.

I will never forgive him for his 2004-onwards period.

vitriol said:

You have no love for the killer tracks Guitar and Fury?Hell im a lily white chick and even I dig the song Black Sweat!

3121: interesting opener

Lolita: too forced

Te Amo Corazon: boring

Black Sweat: so-so groove

Incense And Candles: conventional R&B track

Love: borrows from typical pop clichés

Satisfied: heard before

Fury: mediocre rock effort

The word: borrows from typical pop clichés

Beautiful, Loved & Blessed: conventional R&B track

The Dance: overproduced

Get On The Boat: heard before


The whole: no flow

vitriol said:

The kind of brainless yet entertaining answer that I was expecting

"3121 sucks because...uuhh...ehh...because it sucks! Period!"

3121: interesting opener - Kick ass opener!

Lolita: too forced - Agreed.

Te Amo Corazon: boring - Sexy.

Black Sweat: so-so groove - Agreed.

Incense And Candles: conventional R&B track - Pure Sex.Dig it!

Love: borrows from typical pop clichés - Filler groove for the work day radio kind of song.

Satisfied: heard before - Took me awhile to come around but it is a so-so song.

Fury: mediocre rock effort - Very in your face.Love it.

The word: borrows from typical pop clichés - Relaxing and a song to think about.

Beautiful, Loved & Blessed: conventional R&B track - Can't stand this song.:K

The Dance: overproduced - See above comment.

Get On The Boat: heard before - Ok groove.


The whole: no flow - No flow but a good effort.

the only thing i would say is-the original version of the dance is one of my fave P tunes-i much prefer it to the album version-other than that-cool album

funkomatic said:

3121: CLASSIC

Lolita: good enough / funny pop track

Te Amo Corazon: good enough

Black Sweat: CLASSIC

Incense And Candles: conventional R&B track

Love: killer melody, killer chorus

Satisfied: catchy soul ballad

Fury: great rock effort

The word: CLASSIC

Beautiful, Loved & Blessed: conventional R&B track

The Dance: CLASSIC

Get On The Boat: groovy salsa jam


The whole: his best mainstream album since TGE

JoeTyler said:

:likebutton:

agreed.

JoeTyler said:

Very org-y to call brainless to those who don't think like you.

How can I explain that I don't like an album (even if my fave artist did it)?
So that's it. I don't like it.

You must not have many brains when you like that piece of plastic.

vitriol said:

Brainless / devoid of any substance answer part.II

not only a 3121 hater but a org. hater!

I'm lovin' this


3121 haters: I don't trust you...

JoeTyler said:

they are way too chicken to admit that they hate the album. i love the album

I used to hate this album but after a while it really grew to be a favourite! The song-writing is so refined and polished & the whole album flows really well i think

I like 3121.
I was not a big fan of it when it came out, but now i like it just fine.
Same thing with Planet Earth and Lotus Flow3r.
In fact i probably like Planet Earth a little more than 3121, but it is close.

Hate ?

Who does ?


I don't like it, that's all !!!!

The word 'hate' has been used a lot in the forums lately.

vitriol said:[quote]

I will never forgive him for his 2004-onwards period.[/quote]

Hey Joe

I know you love this album, but to me the problem is there are simply no stand out original songs to center my focus when listening to it. The title track is fun, (especially live), but it's one of those one chord grooves. Not exactly the height of creativity.

And Black Sweat is an interesting song in its' production and vibe.

But for me, that's about as much praise as I can offer. The rest of this album, like Planet Earth is just cluttered with tracks that have been done many many times over.

Understanding that almost all "pop" music is derivative in some way, shape or form, this album doesn't offer me any slants that grab me and make me want to hear more.

Vitriol, as to your quote about all of 2004 to 09 being bad, I don't agree. I think there are a few very strong moments on Musicology and Lotus. I would agree that they are not killer albums, but they both have some stand out tracks.

fury always reminded me of Saxon's 747

Long, long ago i used to love every track on a prince album. Now there are still some really good ones on each albums, but also a lot that just doesn't do anything to me. Same goes for this album: i love Lolita (which gets trashed on the org a lot, but i love everything about it...typical pop Prince track) and 3121 (killer track).
Live "Fury" is hot, not so much on the album.

That's about it.

polkadotbliss said:

I like 3121

It's a great album - just a couple duds (Get on the Boat, Beautiful Loved & Blessed)

"Fury" was spoiled by the ferocious Saturday Night Live performance - the album version could never hold up, but it's still a cool track.

"Get On the Boat" is one of only two Prince songs I've never listened to all the way through (the other being "I Like Funky Music")

I surely don't hate the 3121 album... then again i don't HATE any album. I think it's a wrong choice in words to describe music.

To say it's a classic is really too much. There are some good tracks on this album like : Fury - Black Sweat
I like "Te Amo Corazon" something different for Prince and a beautiful song.

But songs like "Love" "Incense and candles" "The word" are just mediocre for me. They don't stick with me.

I like "Lotus Flow3r" much more.
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vitriol said:

The album was WEAK. Period. It was like he spoofed himself.
Lotusflow3r was a masterpiece compared to this garbage.

funkomatic said:

Agreed, should have skipped 3121 and planet earth albums and put the track "3121" on Lotusflow3r along with F.U.N.K or on MPLSound.
I remember hearing 3121 thinking this album is going to be awesome and then being very unimpressed with the sound and material on the rest of the record

Next one will be great though, boy got his mojo back. I'm hoping for a new "prince and the new power genration" album.... a follow up to Symbol album with Sonny T, Michael B and Mr Hayes at the helm..... I can dream!

Fenwick said:

I can see that some people think that but I cannot feel it.

Remember when you heard a new track in the past and your first thought was 'Wow, ONLY PRINCE could've done that'?

I haven't experienced that for a long time.

His recent output is very predictable, unsurprising. I understand he gained a lot of new fans since Musicology and he wants to fidelize them by releasing albums which are easy to listen to instead of 'scaring' them with a more challenging music which demands more from the listener.

I think this is a wrong tactic. Young people mainly understand music as a 'product' for 'consumers'. Something you can 'use' and then 'dump'. They will never be devoted followers of an artist in a great majority of cases.

The problem is he can be losing a part of his long-term die-hards with every new release.
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How could anyone hate something so lovely



The Word is a masterpiece, Love is beautiful, Satisfied leaves you just that and we all wanna drink from a glass with Chocolate handles