... Although i'd still like to see that quote where he said that Prince was a "keeper of the funk."

Ditto with George. Although i'd wager dollars to donuts that when George said it, Prince was signing his paychecks. What else was he going to say? No one in George's camp believes that. Neither does George.

ButterscotchPimp said:

lol, now you are belittling the motivations of a music legend's opinion.

Listen its no big deal, you are bipolar you have your own opinion and that's cool. Keep waving that flag pretending you know better than George Clinton, Miles Davis and everyone else. Entertaining and amusing for sure.
After all, when it comes to "funk" you are some dude on the org that was appointed to dictate matters of taste and opinion.

[Edited 5/22/10 7:57am]

violetblues said:

Let's put it this way.
Unlike some folks in here, I tend to back up what I say. And I don't come in here to brag about my own personal accomplishments.

I will say this. I did my stint in the funk community. I'm not claiming to be an "expert". But apparently I know a little more that the rabid fams in here that LOVE to throw the word funk around as if Prince either invented it (bullshit) or even worse "perfected it" (laughable).

Unless someone comes in with a newer take/opinion, i'm probably going to let this go. Debated this one to death, and this is already a re-hash of the same arguments.


I was in the shower and maybe came up with another take that hopefully illustrates my point. When some of you name drop the "funk" in regards to Prince, it sort of lends itself to the opinion that Prince is a "funk master". Which he isn't. Anymore than he's a "jazz master". He's not one of those either.

Prince is a musical genius. Prince is probably the most prolific artist of his generation. And one of the things that makes him somewhat unique is his ability to take any particular genre of music that he's interested in, and give it his own unique flavor.

Imagine if you will (a picture. just kidding) that Prince were a chef. And his style of cooking borrowed from different styles of cooking. Some French cuisine, maybe some good ole American cajun, you get my point. So the fact that he has knowledge of these styles of cooking and can create delicious dishes that contain elements of those particular styles would be his signature and his mark on the world. But would it make him a "French cook"? A master of "cajun cuisine"? No.

Does that make any more sense?

ButterscotchPimp said:

No.

I brought this up awhile ago and the debate lasted WEEKS.

ThreadBare said:

ah.
THANK YOU.

I think P's a master at cobbling together elements that work really well together under his own style.

I don't think he's a major contributor to rock, say in a Hendrix or even Dylan kind of way, but he's a killer rock performer. The same goes for funk. I think he's incredibly funky (his rhythm clock is absolutely sick) but devoted fans of funk will shout you down with Cameo, the Meters and Sly and a host of other acts.

Prince raps, but he's not a major contributor to the genre. He uses classical, but he's no Mahler or Chopin.

violetblues said:

Let's put it this way.
Unlike some folks in here, I tend to back up what I say. And I don't come in here to brag about my own personal accomplishments.

I will say this. I did my stint in the funk community. I'm not claiming to be an "expert". But apparently I know a little more that the rabid fams in here that LOVE to throw the word funk around as if Prince either invented it (bullshit) or even worse "perfected it" (laughable).

Unless someone comes in with a newer take/opinion, i'm probably going to let this go. Debated this one to death, and this is already a re-hash of the same arguments.


I was in the shower and maybe came up with another take that hopefully illustrates my point. When some of you name drop the "funk" in regards to Prince, it sort of lends itself to the opinion that Prince is a "funk master". Which he isn't. Anymore than he's a "jazz master". He's not one of those either.

Prince is a musical genius. Prince is probably the most prolific artist of his generation. And one of the things that makes him somewhat unique is his ability to take any particular genre of music that he's interested in, and give it his own unique flavor.

Imagine if you will (a picture. just kidding) that Prince were a chef. And his style of cooking borrowed from different styles of cooking. Some French cuisine, maybe some good ole American cajun, you get my point. So the fact that he has knowledge of these styles of cooking and can create delicious dishes that contain elements of those particular styles would be his signature and his mark on the world. But would it make him a "French cook"? A master of "cajun cuisine"? No.

Does that make any more sense?
[Edited 5/22/10 9:46am]

KoolEaze said:

So i'm just supposed to take your word for it.

Link, perhaps?

Simple question. Is Prince a major contributor to Funk, like James Brown, Sly Stone or George Clinton was to it? Did he really add anything that was groundbreaking? Look past the fact of being diehard fans, and at it from a musical standpoint.....by the way don't get upset at the question..Its just a question.

datdude said:

Who me? Or the OP?
Because none of those songs are remotely in the neighborhood of funk, so your point would be.....

ThreadBare said:

ah.
THANK YOU.

ButterscotchPimp said:

Simple question. Is Prince a major contributor to Funk, like James Brown, Sly Stone or George Clinton was to it? Did he really add anything that was groundbreaking? Look past the fact of being diehard fans, and at it from a musical standpoint.....by the way don't get upset at the question..Its just a question.

No.

I brought this up awhile ago and the debate lasted WEEKS.

Those who can't dance 2 kiss probably have 2 left feet. I could go down with my dance moves which impresses the ladies.

Kiss is sex funk! kiss would have me on the dance floor then most of the songs I would hear in a club. peolple tend 2 dance 2 different music like I said b4 it's all about the feel.

compare

we gets up vs. if u want me to stay

which one is danceable?

which one is garbage?

junk v. funk

violetblues said:

Let's put it this way.
Unlike some folks in here, I tend to back up what I say. And I don't come in here to brag about my own personal accomplishments.

I will say this. I did my stint in the funk community. I'm not claiming to be an "expert". But apparently I know a little more that the rabid fams in here that LOVE to throw the word funk around as if Prince either invented it (bullshit) or even worse "perfected it" (laughable).

Unless someone comes in with a newer take/opinion, i'm probably going to let this go. Debated this one to death, and this is already a re-hash of the same arguments.


I was in the shower and maybe came up with another take that hopefully illustrates my point. When some of you name drop the "funk" in regards to Prince, it sort of lends itself to the opinion that Prince is a "funk master". Which he isn't. Anymore than he's a "jazz master". He's not one of those either.

Prince is a musical genius. Prince is probably the most prolific artist of his generation. And one of the things that makes him somewhat unique is his ability to take any particular genre of music that he's interested in, and give it his own unique flavor.

Imagine if you will (a picture. just kidding) that Prince were a chef. And his style of cooking borrowed from different styles of cooking. Some French cuisine, maybe some good ole American cajun, you get my point. So the fact that he has knowledge of these styles of cooking and can create delicious dishes that contain elements of those particular styles would be his signature and his mark on the world. But would it make him a "French cook"? A master of "cajun cuisine"? No.

Does that make any more sense?
[Edited 5/22/10 9:46am]