I mean, seriously? There's gotta be a file of this thing somewhere? It's not like they are selling hard copies anymore. Anyone got a clue about this?

JudasLChrist said:

Buy my hard copy! I have a car to repair.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/...702wt_1079
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JudasLChrist said:

Excellent question. I have been searching for copies of The Vault and Turn It Up 2.0 for years now, and I'd rather not have to pay through the nose to get them! PDFs need to be made, if they're not already out there.

Would you wanna scan it?

Per Nilsen's feeling is that it wouldn't be fair on the people who've spent a great deal of money on The Vault for their to be an easily copied PDF doing the rounds.

Gav said:

Put it back in print, then. Problem solved.

Gav said:

This is the internet. When did feelings ever come into it?

Those that are interested enough, bought it. If somebody can be arsed or has that much spare time, go for it.

NouveauDance said:

If I had it, I would scan it for ppl who can't get it. It's OOP, so why not share it as a PDF? The best thing to do, though, would be to put it back in print, along with Turn it Up 2.0 and DMSR: The First Decade.

It is a pretty good book...I cant let mine go...too much info

Marrk said:

Wrong. Back when it was first published, I wanted to buy a copy, but couldn't afford it. Now, I can afford to pay the original price, but not the current rate for used copies.

The demand for reprints of both Uptown books is out there, but evidently there's a reason why revised/updated editions haven't yet surfaced (I'm guessing it's $...didn't Uptown go broke, or something?).

NouveauDance said:

You know what, I have a scanner right here. I would be up for this project. I'm in Oakland California if there are any takers.

However, I assume the book itself was made on computers, so there should be a file of the book floating around, right?

bluefish said:

Yeah, make another pressing! That excuse doesn't fly. Also some of us are disabled and can't read hardcopy books without much f'nagling.

This thing really needs an electronic version.

Gav said:

That's rich coming from a guy who's made a career out of stolen Prince music.

bluefish said:

Per himself has said recently that Uptown is shut down and there will be no updated edition. He's moved on. He has a job now and has left the Prince research behind. But he did mention he'd be interested in passing on his research to soemone else, if they were interested.

billymeade said:

He has? Explain this please.

errant said:

Where did you hear that?

JudasLChrist said:

here. look up the posts by user pernil

errant said:

I just e-mailed Per and humbly volunteered to update the 3 books. I am dead serious about it, too. I realize there are hundreds of folks out there who are more qualified to do it than me, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
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I didn't realise such a book existed but that is excellent for another detailist like me? I seem to remember when i was in the oxford street branch of virgin megastore's music book department and browsed a book of all prince's lyrics up to that point (possibly early to mid 90's?) I forget the author but it had all released songs, the bootlegs (well known unreleased tracks?) and vault tracks in it and was pretty comprehensive if anyone can point me towards any information regarding that particular book?
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CarlM said:

That sounds like "Prince: A Documentary", by, yup, Per Nilsen and Uptown. It was a chronological 'diary' of Prince's career, and it had listings, discography and bootleg info at the back. Basically, this is what all the other Uptown books were built upon, ending with 'The Vault'.

It was a smaller book than the "A documentary by per nilsen" and might have been unofficial but basically just had his lyrics and maybe not hardly if any pics of Prince?

Like the Days Of Wild:Uptown cdrom with all of the issues. Glad I p got the Vault when they had that special release with all of it.

A PDF would be the cat's pajamas.

squirrelgrease said:

Wouldn't it though?

Gav said:

is he aware of options like this http://www.lulu.com/ http://www.bookprinting.org.uk/ http://www.fast-print.net/

those are just some i googled up

i saw something on tv about this where writers can directly sell books online that are either sold as a pdf file or printed on demand as a real book, with no minimum copies. presumably they host a pdf file and when a customer buys the book the company prints a copy automatically and binds it and ships it

there are also options where you can get small runs made, for example 50 copies for £170

so whilst i can understand him not wanting a pdf file that anyone can easily copy and share, he could make the book available in print form via those means, with little to no effort required. fans get a copy of the book, and he gets paid for it. it opens up no further ease of piracy, as it's just as easy for someone to scan and pdf an existing copy, than someone would do from one of these reprints

with those sites you can basically take any pdf file and make a bound and printed book, with different sizes and options such as paperback and hard copy

NouveauDance said:

Sigh... READ what he posted. A book with just LYRICS.

CarlM said:

Just look for the DTT Lyrics website.

manray10 said:

Indeed!
Who needs a pdf when we got this?

BartVanHemelen said:

Wow, I fell foul to Bart's wrath!

My sincere apologies, I shall from this day forth read every post I reply to with a fine toothcomb, twice!



Edit: check for spelling!
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