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"I Hate U"/Billy Jack Bitch

Please someone explain this song to me as it relates to C.J writer of Star Tribune (Minneapolis paper)? thx. She appears to be a "hater"of Prince.
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Reply #1 posted 05/24/10 8:05pm

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"I Hate U" is about Carmen Electra cheating on Prince with Tony M.

"Billy Jack Bitch" is about CJ being.....well, a bitch. He took her out once to talk to her, in his car, at one of the lake (Lake of the Isles I think). He left her at the lake and drove off. hahaha (It's a stripped down version of it.) She's had it in for him every since, calling him "Symbolina" or whatever. She's retarded, and she needs to get past it. 14 years and she's still going on and on about it.
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Reply #2 posted 05/24/10 9:06pm

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ernestsewell said:

"I Hate U" is about Carmen Electra cheating on Prince with Tony M.

"Billy Jack Bitch" is about CJ being.....well, a bitch. He took her out once to talk to her, in his car, at one of the lake (Lake of the Isles I think). He left her at the lake and drove off. hahaha (It's a stripped down version of it.) She's had it in for him every since, calling him "Symbolina" or whatever. She's retarded, and she needs to get past it. 14 years and she's still going on and on about it.


Hey, call my Boo a retarded bitch one more time, muthafucka, and it's on! She is not retarded! mad
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Reply #3 posted 05/24/10 9:38pm

ernestsewell

CJBabyDaddy said:

ernestsewell said:

"I Hate U" is about Carmen Electra cheating on Prince with Tony M.

"Billy Jack Bitch" is about CJ being.....well, a bitch. He took her out once to talk to her, in his car, at one of the lake (Lake of the Isles I think). He left her at the lake and drove off. hahaha (It's a stripped down version of it.) She's had it in for him every since, calling him "Symbolina" or whatever. She's retarded, and she needs to get past it. 14 years and she's still going on and on about it.


Hey, call my Boo a retarded bitch one more time, muthafucka, and it's on! She is not retarded! mad

I never called her a bitch.

But she's mad retarded!!!
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Reply #4 posted 05/24/10 10:44pm

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ernestsewell said:

CJBabyDaddy said:



Hey, call my Boo a retarded bitch one more time, muthafucka, and it's on! She is not retarded! mad

I never called her a bitch.

But she's mad retarded!!!


I'm warning you. She may be mad. She may be a bitch. But my Boo ain't retarded. Take it back now! mad
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Reply #5 posted 05/24/10 11:06pm

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C.J.
NEWS
Prince's curbside chat with his `biggest enemy' // Chance conversation outside Paisley Park runs the gamut: sex, God, Mayte, the baby
Cheryl Johnson; Staff Writer
1464 words
3 June 1997
Star-Tribune Newspaper of the Twin Cities Mpls.-St. Paul
MSP
METRO
04B
English
(Copyright 1997)

Chanhassen's most famous citizen has been such a chatterbox of late that it was only a matter of time before he yakked me up. It wasn't a planned thing, mind you. But the way Prince sees the world, he'd probably say it was meant to be.

For 45 minutes we chatted and sparred about worldly and otherworldly things: Mayte, marriage, sex, God; and was I a girlfriend from his past? On a lighter note, at least for me, Prince declared me his "biggest enemy."

He interviewed me as much as vice versa, according to my friend, witness, and the person responsible for this close encounter, Beverly Cochran. Beverly is a childhood friend I met at a small Presbyterian church in Albany, Ga. She had come to spend the Memorial Day holiday with me . . . and to see Prince. She knew the odds. She was playfully planning to fabricate a story for her friends back in Atlanta about meeting Prince at Paisley Park but not getting a picture of him because he is famously camera-shy.

Make-believe came dangerously close to reality. Accommodating host that I am, I dutifully drove Beverly to Chanhassen and pointed out the house where I believed Prince lives. (Do not call 332-TIPS to ask where.)

At that moment, a sports car with superdark tinted windows roared down the drive. The driver followed my car, and from my rearview mirror I could see his hands on the steering wheel. It was enough for me to make a positive ID: I know his hands, his knuckles, his fingernails, his cuticles.

With his thumbs wrapped under the steering wheel, he used his fingers to make a move-it-buster gesture. Cooperative as ever, I slowed down. He whipped by us, only to have us catch up at the next light. Lowering his window, he stuck his hand out and made a series of graceful gestures: Was he moving to music or testing my proficiency at interpreting gang signs? His face was visible, reflected in his side-view mirror.

Take a picture of the car, I ordered. Beverly, daughter of a famous portrait photographer, was transfixed and fumbled around before the camera finally clicked. With the green light, we both took off again. We both headed to Paisley Park (our next tourist stop). He zipped into Paisley. I parked on the street outside - having been kicked out of there before, I wasn't about to get into trouble for trespassing. But when I spied his vehicle positioned just inside Paisley, I got out of my car so he could see his pursuer. Bingo. He pulled out and parked right behind my car.

I walked over. He lowered his car window. Beverly came over with a camera in hand. "No pictures!" he said. Even though his eyes were hidden behind dark glasses with a glyph on the temple, there was flight in his voice. I stashed the camera back in my car.

You have Beverly to thank for the rest. Sincerely, she told Prince how much she loves his music and how gifted he is. Somehow, the conversation turned to me. He said he didn't recognize me. Peering over my dark glasses (with no symbol on the side), I revealed my eyes and identity. "Billy!" Prince said, in a playfully yet condescendingly familiar growl. Proof that "Billy Jack Bitch" was written in my honor?

I was surprised he didn't snap his car in gear that minute. But somehow, he and Beverly got into a discussion of the "Celestine Prophecy." Both had read it and found it incredible. "I can't believe you have a friend I like!" said Prince.

Of God and judgments

God came up. I admitted to a belief in a higher power. "Where do you think God is? Where is he?" asked Prince, draping his arm out of the car to motion to the surroundings. "I think that God is in all of us," said Beverly. Prince loved that, adding, "it takes all of us knowing God before he'll manifest himself." My turn: Did God approve of his sexually explicit lyrics (not to mention the simulated sex on stage)? "Sex is the door-opener," he said, "once you open the door. . . . "

More godly talk ensued, with Prince growing more impressed with Beverly. "What are you here for? " he asked me. I told him I was here to have fun - he was not impressed - and that in my job, I also liked to remind people how we should behave.

"Oh, you're a judger. You like to judge, and you shouldn't, because one day you will be judged," the Rev. Prince said. I plan to do enough good to merit a decent evaluation.

"Why don't you like me?" asked Prince. I told him I didn't like the way he behaved. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis are big-time musicmakers, and yet they go out and act like normal people. "I'm not Jimmy Jam and Terry," he said. "I thought you hated me because you were an old girlfriend."

I ripped off my sunglasses so he'd get a good look at a face that does not radiate the exquisite beauty of his protegees Carmen Electra, Apollonia or Mayte. "It's what's inside," he said, tapping his chest.

Of Mayte and fate

I'm not doubting what's inside his wife (Mayte must have the soul of a saint to live with this guy), but I doubt he could read her innards at first sight. Prince admitted that marriage was the last thing on his mind when he met Mayte: "I didn't want to get married. Get married? Me? I wasn't looking to get married."

But he couldn't ignore the signs. Mayte is like Mattie, his mom's name. Mayte's mom's name is Nell, and when he married Mayte he became son of Nell; his family name is Nelson. He said his dad's name was John L. - Jannell is Mayte's middle name. My eyes glazed over; I have never understood predicating an important decision like marriage on a name game. I believe he also said both his dad and Mayte's dad's names were John. That's a cosmic coincidence? But Prince clearly believes there is much to this and his discovery of Mayte as "my soul mate." I suggested that he sought a soul mate who was gorgeous.

I'm not Billy?

Despite greeting me as Billy and using the "Billy Jack Bitch" theme "you lie" on me, he maintained that the song was not about me at all. More intelligent types than yours truly - KMSP-TV and Impact, a national radio-biz publication - concluded the song was an attack on me: "What if I called you silly names . . . just like the ones that you call me . . . " Names, you know, such as Symbolina.

And while we're talking about lying, "You lied on Oprah," I parried. I didn't go into the lies of commission and of omission on the birth and death certificates of his baby boy. But I said I was bothered that he reportedly told "Entertainment Tonight" that the birth of his baby was "amazing." "Look up amazing in the dictionary," he advised.

He called me his "biggest enemy," but said he had no ill will toward me. He said he dated a cheerleader named Cheryl Johnson - here we go again with the names - in the 11th grade at Central High in Minneapolis. Prince said that people named Johnson have been either his best friends or his great enemies. He mentioned enemy and former rocker Rick James, whose real last name is Johnson according to Prince, and Jesse Johnson, a former Time guitarist who I believe was characterized as a former friend.

No hard feelings

I told him I've enjoyed some of his music, and I know he's a musical genius. I also tried to make the point that no self-respecting gossip columnist could ignore a local celeb of his worldwide stature. Despite our mutual lack of animosity, Prince refused to allow a photo of himself and Beverly. But not because he was camera-shy. When another Atlanta resident visiting the metro happened by with her relatives and asked for a picture, Prince acquiesced. Beverly wanted to know why she was refused a picture. "You're with her," he said, pointing at me. And she must be punished for that, I replied.

Ladies and gentlemen, kids of all ages, it's official - Prince will talk to anybody.

ILLUSTRATION;PHOTO

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Reply #6 posted 05/24/10 11:38pm

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i wonder who CJ will come back as in her next life, maybe a celebrity?
this too shall pass
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Reply #7 posted 05/25/10 6:50am

ernestsewell

CJBabyDaddy said:

ernestsewell said:


I never called her a bitch.

But she's mad retarded!!!


I'm warning you. She may be mad. She may be a bitch. But my Boo ain't retarded. Take it back now! mad

LOL @ "warning". ohgoon
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Reply #8 posted 05/25/10 7:08am

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Heidi said:

C.J.
NEWS
Prince's curbside chat with his `biggest enemy' // Chance conversation outside Paisley Park runs the gamut: sex, God, Mayte, the baby
Cheryl Johnson; Staff Writer
1464 words
3 June 1997
Star-Tribune Newspaper of the Twin Cities Mpls.-St. Paul
MSP
METRO
04B
English
(Copyright 1997)

Chanhassen's most famous citizen has been such a chatterbox of late that it was only a matter of time before he yakked me up. It wasn't a planned thing, mind you. But the way Prince sees the world, he'd probably say it was meant to be.

For 45 minutes we chatted and sparred about worldly and otherworldly things: Mayte, marriage, sex, God; and was I a girlfriend from his past? On a lighter note, at least for me, Prince declared me his "biggest enemy."

He interviewed me as much as vice versa, according to my friend, witness, and the person responsible for this close encounter, Beverly Cochran. Beverly is a childhood friend I met at a small Presbyterian church in Albany, Ga. She had come to spend the Memorial Day holiday with me . . . and to see Prince. She knew the odds. She was playfully planning to fabricate a story for her friends back in Atlanta about meeting Prince at Paisley Park but not getting a picture of him because he is famously camera-shy.

Make-believe came dangerously close to reality. Accommodating host that I am, I dutifully drove Beverly to Chanhassen and pointed out the house where I believed Prince lives. (Do not call 332-TIPS to ask where.)

At that moment, a sports car with superdark tinted windows roared down the drive. The driver followed my car, and from my rearview mirror I could see his hands on the steering wheel. It was enough for me to make a positive ID: I know his hands, his knuckles, his fingernails, his cuticles.

With his thumbs wrapped under the steering wheel, he used his fingers to make a move-it-buster gesture. Cooperative as ever, I slowed down. He whipped by us, only to have us catch up at the next light. Lowering his window, he stuck his hand out and made a series of graceful gestures: Was he moving to music or testing my proficiency at interpreting gang signs? His face was visible, reflected in his side-view mirror.

Take a picture of the car, I ordered. Beverly, daughter of a famous portrait photographer, was transfixed and fumbled around before the camera finally clicked. With the green light, we both took off again. We both headed to Paisley Park (our next tourist stop). He zipped into Paisley. I parked on the street outside - having been kicked out of there before, I wasn't about to get into trouble for trespassing. But when I spied his vehicle positioned just inside Paisley, I got out of my car so he could see his pursuer. Bingo. He pulled out and parked right behind my car.

I walked over. He lowered his car window. Beverly came over with a camera in hand. "No pictures!" he said. Even though his eyes were hidden behind dark glasses with a glyph on the temple, there was flight in his voice. I stashed the camera back in my car.

You have Beverly to thank for the rest. Sincerely, she told Prince how much she loves his music and how gifted he is. Somehow, the conversation turned to me. He said he didn't recognize me. Peering over my dark glasses (with no symbol on the side), I revealed my eyes and identity. "Billy!" Prince said, in a playfully yet condescendingly familiar growl. Proof that "Billy Jack Bitch" was written in my honor?

I was surprised he didn't snap his car in gear that minute. But somehow, he and Beverly got into a discussion of the "Celestine Prophecy." Both had read it and found it incredible. "I can't believe you have a friend I like!" said Prince.

Of God and judgments

God came up. I admitted to a belief in a higher power. "Where do you think God is? Where is he?" asked Prince, draping his arm out of the car to motion to the surroundings. "I think that God is in all of us," said Beverly. Prince loved that, adding, "it takes all of us knowing God before he'll manifest himself." My turn: Did God approve of his sexually explicit lyrics (not to mention the simulated sex on stage)? "Sex is the door-opener," he said, "once you open the door. . . . "

More godly talk ensued, with Prince growing more impressed with Beverly. "What are you here for? " he asked me. I told him I was here to have fun - he was not impressed - and that in my job, I also liked to remind people how we should behave.

"Oh, you're a judger. You like to judge, and you shouldn't, because one day you will be judged," the Rev. Prince said. I plan to do enough good to merit a decent evaluation.

"Why don't you like me?" asked Prince. I told him I didn't like the way he behaved. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis are big-time musicmakers, and yet they go out and act like normal people. "I'm not Jimmy Jam and Terry," he said. "I thought you hated me because you were an old girlfriend."

I ripped off my sunglasses so he'd get a good look at a face that does not radiate the exquisite beauty of his protegees Carmen Electra, Apollonia or Mayte. "It's what's inside," he said, tapping his chest.

Of Mayte and fate

I'm not doubting what's inside his wife (Mayte must have the soul of a saint to live with this guy), but I doubt he could read her innards at first sight. Prince admitted that marriage was the last thing on his mind when he met Mayte: "I didn't want to get married. Get married? Me? I wasn't looking to get married."

But he couldn't ignore the signs. Mayte is like Mattie, his mom's name. Mayte's mom's name is Nell, and when he married Mayte he became son of Nell; his family name is Nelson. He said his dad's name was John L. - Jannell is Mayte's middle name. My eyes glazed over; I have never understood predicating an important decision like marriage on a name game. I believe he also said both his dad and Mayte's dad's names were John. That's a cosmic coincidence? But Prince clearly believes there is much to this and his discovery of Mayte as "my soul mate." I suggested that he sought a soul mate who was gorgeous.

I'm not Billy?

Despite greeting me as Billy and using the "Billy Jack Bitch" theme "you lie" on me, he maintained that the song was not about me at all. More intelligent types than yours truly - KMSP-TV and Impact, a national radio-biz publication - concluded the song was an attack on me: "What if I called you silly names . . . just like the ones that you call me . . . " Names, you know, such as Symbolina.

And while we're talking about lying, "You lied on Oprah," I parried. I didn't go into the lies of commission and of omission on the birth and death certificates of his baby boy. But I said I was bothered that he reportedly told "Entertainment Tonight" that the birth of his baby was "amazing." "Look up amazing in the dictionary," he advised.

He called me his "biggest enemy," but said he had no ill will toward me. He said he dated a cheerleader named Cheryl Johnson - here we go again with the names - in the 11th grade at Central High in Minneapolis. Prince said that people named Johnson have been either his best friends or his great enemies. He mentioned enemy and former rocker Rick James, whose real last name is Johnson according to Prince, and Jesse Johnson, a former Time guitarist who I believe was characterized as a former friend.

No hard feelings

I told him I've enjoyed some of his music, and I know he's a musical genius. I also tried to make the point that no self-respecting gossip columnist could ignore a local celeb of his worldwide stature. Despite our mutual lack of animosity, Prince refused to allow a photo of himself and Beverly. But not because he was camera-shy. When another Atlanta resident visiting the metro happened by with her relatives and asked for a picture, Prince acquiesced. Beverly wanted to know why she was refused a picture. "You're with her," he said, pointing at me. And she must be punished for that, I replied.

Ladies and gentlemen, kids of all ages, it's official - Prince will talk to anybody.

ILLUSTRATION;PHOTO

Document msp0000020020328dt6304alj

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Reply #9 posted 05/25/10 7:56am

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ernestsewell said:

"I Hate U" is about Carmen Electra cheating on Prince with Tony M.

"Billy Jack Bitch" is about CJ being.....well, a bitch. He took her out once to talk to her, in his car, at one of the lake (Lake of the Isles I think). He left her at the lake and drove off. hahaha (It's a stripped down version of it.) She's had it in for him every since, calling him "Symbolina" or whatever. She's retarded, and she needs to get past it. 14 years and she's still going on and on about it.


eek

Where did u read this? That's totally weird. When did it happen (i.e. did Prince & Tony work together after it happened or was it after Tony was fired anyway)? & WHY would anyone wanna cheat delicate Prince with brutal Tony M. in the 1st place????
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Reply #10 posted 05/25/10 8:21am

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databank said:

ernestsewell said:

"I Hate U" is about Carmen Electra cheating on Prince with Tony M.

"Billy Jack Bitch" is about CJ being.....well, a bitch. He took her out once to talk to her, in his car, at one of the lake (Lake of the Isles I think). He left her at the lake and drove off. hahaha (It's a stripped down version of it.) She's had it in for him every since, calling him "Symbolina" or whatever. She's retarded, and she needs to get past it. 14 years and she's still going on and on about it.

Where did u read this? That's totally weird. When did it happen (i.e. did Prince & Tony work together after it happened or was it after Tony was fired anyway)? & WHY would anyone wanna cheat delicate Prince with brutal Tony M. in the 1st place????

The song in general is about Carmen cheating on him. Prince had it HARD for Carmen at the time. Endless stories have been relayed by former Prince workers about how he'd even have her sleep in full makeup, so she was always "ready" or "on" if he wanted her for something.

The Tony M. thing isn't a joke. Yes, it sounds like "WTF?", like she traded down to sleep with someone. Just because Tony wasn't on a record doesn't mean he wasn't around. He was around for the prince album, and Carmen's record was being promoted at the time. She's all over the prince album, and a promo for her video is on the 3 Chains O' Gold video collection, so there is an overlap between Carmen and Tony's presence with Prince. The Tony M. story is rather well known, and believed to be real. It's not some oddball rumor that people are glomming onto.

For me, you can feel the pain and anger Prince had at the situation. Some of those lyrics are raw. The production might be lavish, but the lyrical content is hard core angst.

I kind of believe it though.
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ernestsewell said:

databank said:


Where did u read this? That's totally weird. When did it happen (i.e. did Prince & Tony work together after it happened or was it after Tony was fired anyway)? & WHY would anyone wanna cheat delicate Prince with brutal Tony M. in the 1st place????

The song in general is about Carmen cheating on him. Prince had it HARD for Carmen at the time. Endless stories have been relayed by former Prince workers about how he'd even have her sleep in full makeup, so she was always "ready" or "on" if he wanted her for something.

The Tony M. thing isn't a joke. Yes, it sounds like "WTF?", like she traded down to sleep with someone. Just because Tony wasn't on a record doesn't mean he wasn't around. He was around for the prince album, and Carmen's record was being promoted at the time. She's all over the prince album, and a promo for her video is on the 3 Chains O' Gold video collection, so there is an overlap between Carmen and Tony's presence with Prince. The Tony M. story is rather well known, and believed to be real. It's not some oddball rumor that people are glomming onto.

For me, you can feel the pain and anger Prince had at the situation. Some of those lyrics are raw. The production might be lavish, but the lyrical content is hard core angst.

I kind of believe it though.


I certainly can believe it and yeah "Eye Hate U" sounds like a real-life experience. My question was about how (and if) it affected Tony's relationship with Prince (you'd believe it did, from the song i can hardly imagine Tony being on stage with Prince after humiliating him like this) and if it had anything to do with him being out of the Prince camp after the London 1993 concert (though it seemed a logical step to stop working with him considering the directions Prince's music was taking, but on the other hand other rappers were invited to guest later in the 90's, and not Tony)? Do you know anything about it?
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Reply #12 posted 05/25/10 1:22pm

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databank said:

I certainly can believe it and yeah "Eye Hate U" sounds like a real-life experience. My question was about how (and if) it affected Tony's relationship with Prince (you'd believe it did, from the song i can hardly imagine Tony being on stage with Prince after humiliating him like this) and if it had anything to do with him being out of the Prince camp after the London 1993 concert (though it seemed a logical step to stop working with him considering the directions Prince's music was taking, but on the other hand other rappers were invited to guest later in the 90's, and not Tony)? Do you know anything about it?

Well no one ever said it was while the Act I tour was still going on. And if it did happen during that, that's not an indication that Prince knew about it right off the bat. That's all conjecture.

Perfect example is Tina Landon being cheated on by her dancer/fiance Robert on Janet's Velvet Rope Tour. Janet knew, but Tina herself, the victim, didn't know until after the tour was over. Tours are busy places, and the focus is often just on the tour, the schedule, and SLEEP.

Prince obviously found out, but it had to be later on. Tony wasn't even around during The Hits/The B-sides. The last time we really see him was on "Money Don't Matter 2 Nite", or the 3 Chains VHS, whichever came last. Same with Carmen.
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databank said:

I certainly can believe it and yeah "Eye Hate U" sounds like a real-life experience. My question was about how (and if) it affected Tony's relationship with Prince (you'd believe it did, from the song i can hardly imagine Tony being on stage with Prince after humiliating him like this) and if it had anything to do with him being out of the Prince camp after the London 1993 concert (though it seemed a logical step to stop working with him considering the directions Prince's music was taking, but on the other hand other rappers were invited to guest later in the 90's, and not Tony)? Do you know anything about it?

Well no one ever said it was while the Act I tour was still going on. And if it did happen during that, that's not an indication that Prince knew about it right off the bat. That's all conjecture.

Perfect example is Tina Landon being cheated on by her dancer/fiance Robert on Janet's Velvet Rope Tour. Janet knew, but Tina herself, the victim, didn't know until after the tour was over. Tours are busy places, and the focus is often just on the tour, the schedule, and SLEEP.

Prince obviously found out, but it had to be later on. Tony wasn't even around during The Hits/The B-sides. The last time we really see him was on "Money Don't Matter 2 Nite", or the 3 Chains VHS, whichever came last. Same with Carmen.


Ok, thanks biggrin

4 the record, i think Tony's last public appearance with Prince was on what became "The Sacrifice of Victor" concert in early september 1993. And the data we have indicates this:
The Beautiful Experience/Gold, Paisley Park, 20 January – early 1994
NPG Operator Segues
Love 4 1 Another (3:43)* - released as New World
Interactive #3 (2:25) – incl. NPG Operator
Days Of Wild #1 (6:03)
NPG Operator/Days Of Wild #2 (3:55) – edit of #1
Acknowledge Me #2 (5:27)*
NPG Operator/Now #2 (4:46)
Shy #2 (5:04) – similar to released version
Eye Hate U #1 (6:13) – incl. NPG Operator
Gold #2 (7:33) – without NPG Operator
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Reply #14 posted 05/25/10 1:44pm

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databank said:

4 the record, i think Tony's last public appearance with Prince was on what became "The Sacrifice of Victor" concert in early september 1993. And the data we have indicates this:

Ahh, yes, forgot about that.
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Reply #15 posted 05/25/10 2:41pm

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Heidi said:

C.J.
NEWS
Prince's curbside chat with his `biggest enemy' // Chance conversation outside Paisley Park runs the gamut: sex, God, Mayte, the baby
Cheryl Johnson; Staff Writer
1464 words
3 June 1997
Star-Tribune Newspaper of the Twin Cities Mpls.-St. Paul
MSP
METRO
04B
English
(Copyright 1997)



Thanks for the article, I didn't know 1/2 of this. I always wondered about CJ, I cannot stand that chick either ... LoL
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Reply #16 posted 05/25/10 3:25pm

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ernestsewell said:

databank said:

4 the record, i think Tony's last public appearance with Prince was on what became "The Sacrifice of Victor" concert in early september 1993. And the data we have indicates this:

Ahh, yes, forgot about that.


Tony got to perform at The Beautiful Experience concert (as The Deacon) so I guess that would be the last time. I don't think he performed with Prince and the NPG but he was introduced by Prince I seem to recall.

I've always wondered where the Tony M and Carmen rumour came from as well
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Reply #17 posted 05/25/10 5:37pm

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ernestsewell said:


Ahh, yes, forgot about that.


Tony got to perform at The Beautiful Experience concert (as The Deacon) so I guess that would be the last time. I don't think he performed with Prince and the NPG but he was introduced by Prince I seem to recall.

I've always wondered where the Tony M and Carmen rumour came from as well


Tony did perform at the Beautiful Experience, but did not get on stage with Prince and the NPG. His last performance with Prince that I can recall was at Glam Slam Minneapolis July 26, 1994.

As far as the Carmen rumour, Prince had several "regular" women around at that time and they all knew that. Carmen was just tired of being holed up in Minneapolis and left.
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Reply #18 posted 05/26/10 5:20am

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dodger said:



Tony got to perform at The Beautiful Experience concert (as The Deacon) so I guess that would be the last time. I don't think he performed with Prince and the NPG but he was introduced by Prince I seem to recall.

I've always wondered where the Tony M and Carmen rumour came from as well


Tony did perform at the Beautiful Experience, but did not get on stage with Prince and the NPG. His last performance with Prince that I can recall was at Glam Slam Minneapolis July 26, 1994.

As far as the Carmen rumour, Prince had several "regular" women around at that time and they all knew that. Carmen was just tired of being holed up in Minneapolis and left.


Tony had some involvement in Carmen's album didnt he so they obviously knew eachother and worked together so its possible but am still curious how and where this rumour started as I see it mentioned on here quite a bit.

If he did tap that arse good on him - got to admire a man if he can punch above his weight!
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Reply #19 posted 05/26/10 9:38am

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Didn't CJ touch his pee pee and go in to a four and a fifth day coma.... or something?
We are all so full of doody here
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Reply #20 posted 05/26/10 1:35pm

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Heidi said:

C.J.
NEWS
Prince's curbside chat with his `biggest enemy' // Chance conversation outside Paisley Park runs the gamut: sex, God, Mayte, the baby
Cheryl Johnson; Staff Writer
1464 words
3 June 1997
Star-Tribune Newspaper of the Twin Cities Mpls.-St. Paul
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Thanks for this article. I gave her a piece of my mind recently in regards to the "What's up with Prince". I can't stand her ass.
(Copyright 1997)



Thanks for the article, I didn't know 1/2 of this. I always wondered about CJ, I cannot stand that chick either ... LoL
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Reply #21 posted 05/26/10 1:37pm

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dodger said:

motherfunka said:



Tony did perform at the Beautiful Experience, but did not get on stage with Prince and the NPG. His last performance with Prince that I can recall was at Glam Slam Minneapolis July 26, 1994.

As far as the Carmen rumour, Prince had several "regular" women around at that time and they all knew that. Carmen was just tired of being holed up in Minneapolis and left.


Tony had some involvement in Carmen's album didnt he so they obviously knew eachother and worked together so its possible but am still curious how and where this rumour started as I see it mentioned on here quite a bit.

If he did tap that arse good on him - got to admire a man if he can punch above his weight!


If the story's true, Prince must have puked everytime he listened to "S.T." after that confused
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Reply #22 posted 05/27/10 6:54am

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"I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters and photographers." - Ghandi

even Ghandi doesnt like CJ
this too shall pass
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