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Thread started 05/12/10 6:20pm

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Rick James copying Prince

Ever notice how much "Cold Blooded" by Rick James sounds exactly like "Sexy Dancer" by Prince.Almost note for note.
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Reply #1 posted 05/12/10 7:37pm

ernestsewell

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Reply #2 posted 05/12/10 10:47pm

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I dunno. I bug out to Ol' Dirty Bastard's version though.

If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #3 posted 05/13/10 2:28am

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No, if anything Rick was always accusing Prince of stealing his thunder.
So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #4 posted 05/13/10 2:55am

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Rick James went minneapolis sound after 1983, and that's when he started to lose his edge. I never understood what happened with this guy (drugs?): he was so talented at 1st and then his music went weaker and weaker. His last 80's albums sound more like sub-Jesse Johnson records than Rick James.
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Reply #5 posted 05/13/10 6:43am

ernestsewell

No. lock
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Reply #6 posted 05/13/10 10:29am

jackson35

why would rick james be copying prince when he is just as talented as prince if not more. i had the pleasure of working with rick james on the road at his peak and believe me he can blow prince away.fyi there is no Minneapolis sound, that just prince stealing everybody sound just to sell records.
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Reply #7 posted 05/13/10 12:41pm

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why would rick james be copying prince when he is just as talented as prince if not more.


Because he's wasn't.
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Reply #8 posted 05/13/10 2:21pm

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Rick was superb! that gig captured on dvd from Rockpalast 82 was unbelievable.

The cat rips germany up, I'm sure to an unsuspecting audience and playing all kinds of instruments a la Prince. cool
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Reply #9 posted 05/13/10 2:27pm

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beatdeadhorse x100000
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Reply #10 posted 05/13/10 2:29pm

Erika2k8

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No. lock


plllease lock before a roach (she/he knows who she is) brings her ghetto booty in here lol
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Reply #11 posted 05/13/10 2:48pm

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jackson35 said:

why would rick james be copying prince when he is just as talented as prince if not more. i had the pleasure of working with rick james on the road at his peak and believe me he can blow prince away.fyi there is no Minneapolis sound, that just prince stealing everybody sound just to sell records.


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the fuck? no minneapolis sound? prince stole everyones sound to sell records? lol!



Anyways

I dont think Ricks Mid-Late 80s production sounded much like Prince at all.

Technology was at the forefront of popular music during that time period and to limit Ricks possible inspiration to one artist makes no sense.

Prince did a complete 180 in 1985 and only dabbled in his former style from then on.
You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #12 posted 05/14/10 5:39am

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I don't think that Rick was copying Prince,musically,but let's be honest....Rick's 1985 music video "Glow" looks alot like 'Purple Rain'.
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Reply #13 posted 05/14/10 6:21am

SoulAlive

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Rick James went minneapolis sound after 1983, and that's when he started to lose his edge.


I don't think Rick's music was very Prince-sounding at all.In 1983,he changed his sound,like so many other funk artists and bands....adding more synthesizers and less horns,but I don't think it sounds like the stuff that Prince was doing at the time.



I never understood what happened with this guy (drugs?): he was so talented at 1st and then his music went weaker and weaker. His last 80's albums sound more like sub-Jesse Johnson records than Rick James.


I agree with this.'Cold Blooded' was Rick's last great album.'Glow' had a few really cool tracks,but it's no masterpiece.'The Flag' (1986) and 'Wonderful' (1988) are terrible.


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Reply #14 posted 05/14/10 6:33am

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Cold Blooded?

How about Wonderful?

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Reply #15 posted 05/14/10 6:36am

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skywalker said:

why would rick james be copying prince when he is just as talented as prince if not more.


Because he's wasn't.

exactly!!!
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Reply #16 posted 05/14/10 6:41am

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cinnamongal said:

skywalker said:



Because he's wasn't.

exactly!!!



Find the Wonderful video short. He straight up jacks Prince in Purple Rain.
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Reply #17 posted 05/14/10 6:45am

SoulAlive

It's the "Glow" video where he copies Prince lol Ruffles and lace gloves too!
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Reply #18 posted 05/14/10 6:47am

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SoulAlive said:

It's the "Glow" video where he copies Prince lol Ruffles and lace gloves too!
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Oh my bad! But yall get the idea now. As much as James was doggin Prince for years, he ended up copying him to the max lmao.



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Reply #19 posted 05/14/10 6:51am

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xlr8r said:

SoulAlive said:

It's the "Glow" video where he copies Prince lol Ruffles and lace gloves too!



Oh my bad! But yall get the idea now. As mush a sJames wa doggin Prince for years, he ended up copying him to th emax lmao.


I'm a Rick James fan,but I was embarassed for him when I saw that video lol
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Reply #20 posted 05/14/10 6:55am

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SoulAlive said:[quote]

xlr8r said:




Oh my bad! But yall get the idea now. As mush a sJames wa doggin Prince for years, he ended up copying him to th emax lmao.


I'm a Rick James fan,but I was embarassed for him when I saw that video lol


Same here but after 1999, I couldnt stomach Ricks music. It was all over for him after Throwin Down imo.
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Reply #21 posted 05/14/10 11:39am

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Rick really needs to rest in peace eek
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Reply #22 posted 05/14/10 1:01pm

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SoulAlive said:

databank said:

Rick James went minneapolis sound after 1983, and that's when he started to lose his edge.


I don't think Rick's music was very Prince-sounding at all.In 1983,he changed his sound,like so many other funk artists and bands....adding more synthesizers and less horns,but I don't think it sounds like the stuff that Prince was doing at the time.



I never understood what happened with this guy (drugs?): he was so talented at 1st and then his music went weaker and weaker. His last 80's albums sound more like sub-Jesse Johnson records than Rick James.


I agree with this.'Cold Blooded' was Rick's last great album.'Glow' had a few really cool tracks,but it's no masterpiece.'The Flag' (1986) and 'Wonderful' (1988) are terrible.


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Exactly. I've always said that Rick and Prince switched places around 1985. Prince took Rick's horns and Rick took Prince's synths. Hell, both of them should have just stuck to the style they were famous for. lol
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Reply #23 posted 05/14/10 2:06pm

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vainandy said:



Exactly. I've always said that Rick and Prince switched places around 1985. Prince took Rick's horns and Rick took Prince's synths. Hell, both of them should have just stuck to the style they were famous for. lol


Preach!



2thehaters - The glow video is obviously purple rain inspired but the music isnt very prince-like.

I also think that The Flag had a few decent songs.
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Reply #24 posted 05/14/10 3:49pm

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SoulAlive said:

I don't think that Rick was copying Prince,musically,but let's be honest....Rick's 1985 music video "Glow" looks alot like 'Purple Rain'.



Jesus. I bet Prince still has teeth marks from Rick biting him so hard.

Listen, I've said it before: At one time, Prince and Rick may have been "competition" to each other at one time...fighting over some funk-rock turf.

However, Prince surpassed Rick by 1982 if not 1980. Shit, I think The Time were more in line to compete with Rick James audience. By Little Red Corvette, Prince had transcended and crossed over leaving Rick in alone in his box. By 1984, Prince was in outer space and onto new galaxies.
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