This is from 4/23/10. Nuno mentions a Tower Records performance in L.A. on sunset blvd. Does anyone know what year of performance this was? Eddie Trunk demonstrates that hes an idiot with this classic line. "He got so close with Purple Rain"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...ZSLT-ksgoo
enjoy
Big Chick

2007

Thanks for posting that. Nuno and Gary are huge P fans. Gary wore a ol' school iron on "Dirty Mind" shirt when I saw Extreme back in 1990.

Eddie Trunk is a nice guy but he's a bit of a blowhard. He has no clue about P and Eddie actually thought Parliament (not Funkadelic) was a hard rock group.

I do agree with Eddie that (from a rock lover's perspective), Prince really hasn't satisfied the thirst for heavy guitar (on his records). Of course, the Undertaker CD would put a smile on most rocker's faces, it's really only known about by a tiny, dying fan base. The same can be said about all of those great aftershow bootlegs. Casual fans don't usually know Prince's six string capabilities, while many die-hard fans wish he would make a studio album of straight up overdriven guitar wankery.

squirrelgrease said:

I think he did that with Lotusflower.

TRON said:

The next person to suggest that gets an almighty slap.

And Prince isn't a rock star, it's just not his thing. He's the wrong colour for a start. Don't bite me, there aren't that many black rock stars. More than there are funny, black, English comedians mind you

iloveannie said:

Have you seen Prince live? Michael Jackson was not a rock star. Prince is. It is not all that he is, but he is definitely a rock star.

And as for your comments on colour - I won't even bother.

i sent eddie some heavy prince tracks

Eddie Trunk is a total kiss-ass to everyone he has on the show and he is a terrible interviewer.

TRON said:

Yes he did make a studio album of straight up overdriven guitar mastery with 'Lotusflow3r'.

'Lotusflow3r' SMOKES 'Purple Rain' and 'The Undertaker'... any previous album actually, as far as Prince unleashing his guitar.

Whether folks like the songs or not is another question. I do.

Even as an old school Prince nut, 'Lotusflow3r' is one of my favorite albums.

...and U can damn sure bet that all of the rockers (aforementioned included), Jeff Beck, Steve Vai, etc, have all listened 2 'Lotusflow3r', and feel similarly.

Just sayin'...

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[Edited 5/6/10 6:37am]

iloveannie said:

Go ahead and slap me then because I totally agree
(Not so much about the "wankery" part. LF is a guitar lover's dream).

BigChick said:

i think eddies point was that prince got real close to a stripped down rock group. nothing about how good purple rain was or wasnt. they were talking about people like prince rocking with no keyboards or drum machines or other programmed type of instruments.

Nuno is God.

fms said:

Mmm i wouldn't go THAT far
yes Dreamer is pure bliss
Crimson and Clover was brilliant
But I know Prince has more in him... This was just a taste of it
it would be the raddest thing if he does go the hard rock route for one album, but i won't hold it against him if he doesn't.. cause that's not 100% who he is (but he sure as heck is good at it)
plus if you add up all of his rocker tracks over the years, it's plentifull enough for an album

Lotusflow3r is a guitar record now.

iloveannie said:

The term "rock star" is very limiting to some artists.
And NO ONE IS THE WRONG COLOR, PERIOD.

Giovanni777 said:

my guess is they respect him as a guitar player, but are not exactly fans of his guitar playing. I think they more likely wish they could make music like him--ie sing, dance, write, perform, play multiple instruments, connect with a mass audience, etc
[Edited 5/6/10 15:09pm]

NDRU said:

That's funny. I don't know any proficient guitar player who, if given the choice to be able to play like Steve Vai or Prince, would choose Prince. Those guys also play other instruments. Playing multiple instruments isn't a "Prince thing" Many, many, many musicians do.
Now I doubt that any of them can dance like him and he has connected with a mass audience well, so yo may have a case there. [/b]

Nothing Prince has ever released has ever "smoked" PURPLE RAIN. That's a ridiculous statement dressed up as insight.

BlaqueKnight said:

I know whose guitar talent I'd rather have. It's simple when you look at rock guitarist like Nuno, Vai, Gilbert and Satriani (yes I know they all come under the term 'shredder'): they may not play what everybody likes but they have the theory and technical ability imbedded to enable them to play what they like. Whether they then have the feel that you get is a different thing altogether.

Personally, after the rock gods, I like session players. They have the knowledge to be able to play anything and have the experience to know what works and what gear to use. There's being a star and being a professional. Very different things.

And as for 'smoking' Purple Rain, well for me no song Prince has released has ever rocked harder or better than Let's Go Crazy.

And Dave1992, I agree (as do the whole editorial team at Guitarist magazine) that Nuno is indeed a God. Doesn't matter who he's playing with (Nick Cave for instance) it's always a joy to hear him. Thank god for YouTube

BlaqueKnight said:

Very true. Although my sister being a redhead burns very easily in the sun. So I guess you could say she is the wrong colour for that environment.

Just off the top of my head, has anyone ever seen Prince drag a black guy up on stage and take the piss of his dancing? Anyone? Hmmm, enforcing a racial stereotype or not?

Wasn't it Lenny Henry who said the worst thing about ecstasy was that it made white guys think they could dance? Apparently it wasn't a racist comment. Depends on which side of the table you're sitting I guess. And whether you're sensitive to it (which really is the big part).

squirrelgrease said:

But every time he plays Controversy live he shines on the guitar. It's his slightly overdriven funky rhythm that makes him world class for me, not his overly-distorted lead playing. That I find a bit dull truth be told. He's sounded the same for years now and although he's improved his lead playing is and has been in rut since Purple Rain. Okay, so lead playing on tracks like Cause and Effect and Guitar are different to his 80s style but they still don't rock my boat like his rhythm playing. Give me some ACDC any day

TRON said:

No he didn't.

squirrelgrease said:

Unbelievable, right?

Giovanni777 said:

Dream on.

Isn't C&D a rock record? Lotus had rock elements but when it was announced that he was doing a rock record i was kind of expecting an album of Endorphinemachine style rock.

bigd74 said:

Maybe he needs to get Kirk to bring his cowbell


[Edited 5/7/10 7:47am]

BlaqueKnight said:

Absolutely no case there.

They, in fact, do appreciate Prince's guitar work.

BlaqueKnight said:

well that's exactly my point. Purely as a guitar player I think prince is very solid, but I don't think Steve Vai is sitting around saying "damn how does he do that?"

But he may be saying "I wish I could write & sing a song like Kiss"

And they are probably very impressed by a guy who gets compared to Michael Jackson and Madonna can play (multiple instruments, just like those guys) as well as he does.

BigChick said:

It was 3/21/2006

http://prince.org/msg/7/182038

4 the promotion of 3121


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