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Thread started 05/03/10 5:07pm

sro100

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319 origin?

One of my faves from one of my favorite movie's and CDs.

Which came first: The song or the movie?

Room 319 is in the dialgoue of the film.

Did Prince make the song after seeing a cut of the movie or did he have the song finished and then Paul Veerhoven incorporated 319 into the dialogue?

Anyone know?
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Reply #1 posted 05/03/10 5:08pm

dance4me3121

I believe 319 was made in 89. I could be wrong though
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Reply #2 posted 05/03/10 5:45pm

IshmaelB

A little math reveals...

((319/7)*8.2)/53 = 7.05067385445

Coincidence? Who knows...?
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Reply #3 posted 05/03/10 7:02pm

databank

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sro100 said:

One of my faves from one of my favorite movie's and CDs.

Which came first: The song or the movie?

Room 319 is in the dialgoue of the film.

Did Prince make the song after seeing a cut of the movie or did he have the song finished and then Paul Veerhoven incorporated 319 into the dialogue?

Anyone know?


In any case the song was made much before "Showgirls" was considered.
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Reply #4 posted 05/03/10 7:40pm

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databank said:

sro100 said:

One of my faves from one of my favorite movie's and CDs.

Which came first: The song or the movie?

Room 319 is in the dialgoue of the film.

Did Prince make the song after seeing a cut of the movie or did he have the song finished and then Paul Veerhoven incorporated 319 into the dialogue?

Anyone know?


In any case the song was made much before "Showgirls" was considered.



Well that's cool; then the song did alter part of the movie; I"m sure it wasn't a coincidence that Gina Gershon's character was in Room 319. But I do remember when Prince was asked years back about 319, he said something to the effect, that it was inspired by Elizabeth Berkley's dancing.
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Reply #5 posted 05/03/10 8:46pm

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In 2001, my mother died in room 319 of her hospital. It was quite strange eek
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Reply #6 posted 05/03/10 9:06pm

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sro100 said:

databank said:



In any case the song was made much before "Showgirls" was considered.



Well that's cool; then the song did alter part of the movie; I"m sure it wasn't a coincidence that Gina Gershon's character was in Room 319. But I do remember when Prince was asked years back about 319, he said something to the effect, that it was inspired by Elizabeth Berkley's dancing.



Prince says a lot of things.... lol


I also remember back on the old PML or PPML in '95 or '96 that someone said it was originally from 1989, but I don't remember ever seeing that from any other source since (though it could have been one of those minor details in Uptown or Days Of Wild or the Vault that I didn't bother to file and index in my memory).
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #7 posted 05/03/10 9:30pm

dance4me3121

errant said:

sro100 said:

Well that's cool; then the song did alter part of the movie; I"m sure it wasn't a coincidence that Gina Gershon's character was in Room 319. But I do remember when Prince was asked years back about 319, he said something to the effect, that it was inspired by Elizabeth Berkley's dancing.
Prince says a lot of things.... lol I also remember back on the old PML or PPML in '95 or '96 that someone said it was originally from 1989, but I don't remember ever seeing that from any other source since (though it could have been one of those minor details in Uptown or Days Of Wild or the Vault that I didn't bother to file and index in my memory).
reason I said it was from 89 was because I think it was here that i read a interview in which Cat mentions its from 89.
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Reply #8 posted 05/04/10 12:05am

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IIRC, I think the quote from Cat was referenced in an old issue of Uptown, but since it's never been picked up on since (including in any of their books), I'd say it was a mis-understanding, or could not be verified.

The horn sounds are very like that era, like Partyman, but AFAIK, it's from '93.
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Reply #9 posted 05/04/10 12:19am

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NouveauDance said:

IIRC, I think the quote from Cat was referenced in an old issue of Uptown, but since it's never been picked up on since (including in any of their books), I'd say it was a mis-understanding, or could not be verified.

The horn sounds are very like that era, like Partyman, but AFAIK, it's from '93.


Paisley Park, mid to late October 1993
Gold #1 (5:56) – without guitar
Strawberries (25/10) – with The Hornheadz
319 #1 (3:19)* (25/10) – offered to Showgirls Soundtrack 12/2-‘95
Billy Jack Bitch #1 (7:07) (/Michael B. Nelson from NPG Hornz) – includes NPG Operator
Chaos And Disorder #1 (4:13) – recorded on the same day as
Right The Wrong #1 (4:42) – segues with Acknowledge Me
Acknowledge Me #1 (6:24)
Listen 2 The Rhythm #2 – tentative placing
+ “other tracks not ending up on The Gold Experience”

Source: http://prince.org/msg/7/320445
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Reply #10 posted 05/04/10 5:03am

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Ecclesiastes 3:19

For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.
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Reply #11 posted 05/04/10 5:45am

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IstenSzek said:

Ecclesiastes 3:19

For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.


So when you quote something you don't write like
that?
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Reply #12 posted 05/04/10 6:18am

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databank said:

IstenSzek said:

Ecclesiastes 3:19

For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.


So when you quote something you don't write like
that?


it makes it easier to distinguish between my words and those of someone else

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Reply #13 posted 05/04/10 4:52pm

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IstenSzek said:

Ecclesiastes 3:19

For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.


Does that really work for a song about a girl taking off her clothes?
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Reply #14 posted 05/04/10 5:59pm

IstenSzek

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sro100 said:

IstenSzek said:

Ecclesiastes 3:19

For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.


Does that really work for a song about a girl taking off her clothes?


it doesn't biggrin

i just saw that quote in an xfiles episode today and right after
that i stumbled upon this thread. so i thought i'd post it. just
to post something.
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Reply #15 posted 05/05/10 1:51am

HamsterHuey

Prince came in after the filming.
He wrote 319 based on the movie.
When asked in an interview what the inspiration was, he said Liz Berkley.
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Reply #16 posted 05/05/10 4:27am

NelsonR

damn, i need to go and listen to this right now...forgot how much i loved;
a classic prince jam cool
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Reply #17 posted 05/05/10 4:28am

NelsonR

IshmaelB said:

A little math reveals...

((319/7)*8.2)/53 = 7.05067385445

Coincidence? Who knows...?


kindof like if u add 3121 up
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Reply #18 posted 05/05/10 9:27am

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databank said:

In 2001, my mother died in room 319 of her hospital. It was quite strange eek


eek rose
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Reply #19 posted 05/05/10 1:51pm

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1989 sounds about right - it's got that sampled guitar stab sound that he was doing back then. Like on Batdance and others.


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