I discovered my first P vinyl in 1979 (2d album) back in my native country Cameroon (central Africa)!
I was in high school...just after spending my teen youth listening to: James Brown Stevie Wonder Elton John Gary Wright The Jacksons 5 and more... The Ignorant asserts,The learned doubts,The wise thinks.
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luv4u said: Africa1 said: Read a book. Let's see..... political unstability, AIDs, famine, civil wars, arms dealing, corrupt governments, blood diamonds, cocoa beans, refugee camps..... Plus .... I doubt he's well known. Does he have fans on that continent? That would be Maybe he will expand that way. and this has nothing to do with Prince being irrelevant in Africa. | |
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fakir said: I discovered my first P vinyl in 1979 (2d album) back in my native country Cameroon (central Africa)!
I was in high school...just after spending my teen youth listening to: James Brown Stevie Wonder Elton John Gary Wright The Jacksons 5 and more... wow i got alot to learn | |
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paintedlady said: WaterInYourBath said: Prince has never visited Africa. Ever. That's why.
He filmed videos with Mayte in Cairo. Never really? That always looked like blue/green screen and inserted images to me in that "3 Chains 'o Gold" movie. I've never believed he was actually in Egypt. And as for Morocco, well, I don't remember reading about that. But going there to use their land to shoot a quick video is not visiting with African people. They probably didn't even know he was there. And if they did, they most likely didn't know who he was. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Dewrede said: because they're homophobic and they think he's too feminine ?
With "they" you mean ALL africans? As in "all 1.000.000.000"? Wow... And if that's the case - sure it's a genetic disposition? Does it apply to african-americans, too? | |
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^ no , i meant in general they have a machismo culture , i'd say
and no , i wasn't referring to african americans [Edited 4/27/10 22:40pm] | |
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Wait, we're talking about AFRICA, right?
Prince is scurred of black folks in large numbers. All that blackness might just ruin the butterscotch he protects so well. Seriously, Prince hasn't really demonstrated any interest in Africa. He shouldn't be in heavy rotation there. | |
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WaterInYourBath said: paintedlady said: He filmed videos with Mayte in Cairo. Never really? That always looked like blue/green screen and inserted images to me in that "3 Chains 'o Gold" movie. I've never believed he was actually in Egypt. And as for Morocco, well, I don't remember reading about that. But going there to use their land to shoot a quick video is not visiting with African people. They probably didn't even know he was there. And if they did, they most likely didn't know who he was. He visited Morocco and other African places in 1999, he came up with the name "Habibi" for his guitar during these visits... Neversin. O(+>NIИ<+)O
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Audexia said: Dewrede said: because they're homophobic and they think he's too feminine ?
i think the most homophobic people live in america..not africa Yeah, let's not forget that Africa has the highest number of male on female rapes anywhere on the planet. | |
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Dewrede said: because they're homophobic and they think he's too feminine ?
I am an African and I can tell yo're damn right. I would add that people in Africa his music is viewed as too complex and too "White". You don't hear very much this kind of music on african radios.[b] You can tell about Prince's Future , but his Past is utterly unpredictable | |
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However Prince is familiar to African music.
Want a proof? Just listen to the guitar and melody in "Willing and able". You can tell about Prince's Future , but his Past is utterly unpredictable | |
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Is this the most pointless thread this week? | |
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JBK said: Dewrede said: because they're homophobic and they think he's too feminine ?
I am an African and I can tell yo're damn right. I would add that people in Africa his music is viewed as too complex and too "White". You don't hear very much this kind of music on african radios. glad that someone finally acknowledged what i said i wasn't trying to be blunt , but sometimes facts are just facts [Edited 4/28/10 9:37am] | |
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Marrk said: Dewrede said: because they're homophobic and they think he's too feminine ?
I've never seen Prince as particularly feminine, if he had no facial or body hair? possibly. But he's always had that element of his masculinity present. Just as well he's straight. really ? you don't find his dancing feminine at all ? [Edited 4/28/10 3:12am] | |
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JBK said: However Prince is familiar to African music.
Want a proof? Just listen to the guitar and melody in "Willing and able". yeah good example | |
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iloveannie said: Is this the most pointless thread this week?
no , why ? and if so , why do you bother to reply ? | |
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Dewrede said: JBK said: However Prince is familiar to African music.
Want a proof? Just listen to the guitar and melody in "Willing and able". yeah good example Do-do-do-do-do.....do-doo-do-do...yeah perfect example. But I agree with the other poster in the "white" aspect of Prince's music. I haven't heard a lot of tribal instinct (deep dirty bass) in the music as a whole. Only real hypnotic let go drumming in his recent Cause and Effect, the heavier part....real let your hair stuff...When Prince lets go, it's normally on the guitar. I say put the man behind the drums more and then congas that kind of stuff. "Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life - | |
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well he has done quite a few rhythm driven songs though ; Tamborine , New Position , Dance On , I Would Die 4 U (live) , A Love Bizarre , I'm Yours (from the top of my head ) [Edited 4/28/10 3:59am] | |
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@Databank
@Ksujithkarun Well, I'm from India and I've been a Prince fan since times immemorial. It would be wrong to say or suggest that India has not been exposed to western music icons. India has always had a great market for western music. In fact many would be surprised that Diamonds & Pearls and the 'Symbol' album were one of the best selling albums of early 1990s in India - both were available on a label called 'Magnasound' which had a collabo with WB (sigh, those were the days !). In the same context, India cannot be compared with China as far as music goes, since being a democracy, India has always been more open to outside influences. India also has the highest English speaking population than any other country in the world (I think). | |
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Neversin said: WaterInYourBath said: That always looked like blue/green screen and inserted images to me in that "3 Chains 'o Gold" movie. I've never believed he was actually in Egypt. And as for Morocco, well, I don't remember reading about that. But going there to use their land to shoot a quick video is not visiting with African people. They probably didn't even know he was there. And if they did, they most likely didn't know who he was. He visited Morocco and other African places in 1999, he came up with the name "Habibi" for his guitar during these visits... Neversin. Ahh, ok. I don't remember the story about "Habibi." Thank you. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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i don't think homophobia has much to do with Prince's popularity in Africa;
though I agree that in indigenous, African culture there is not much room for homosexuals, like the rest of the planet and humanity, there are many homosexuals in Africa; being the cradle of humankind, it could be said the 1st homosexual emerged there | |
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iloveannie said: Audexia said: i think the most homophobic people live in america..not africa Yeah, let's not forget that Africa has the highest number of male on female rapes anywhere on the planet. Hmm, not too sure about that according to "published" statistics. http://www.crisisinterven...&Itemid=79 The United States has the world's highest rate of rape of all countries that publish rape statistics. 4 times higher than Germany 13 times higher than England 20 times higher than Japan Anyway, back on topic.... [Edited 4/28/10 12:02pm] | |
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2elijah said:[quote] iloveannie said: Hmm, not too sure about that according to "published" statistics. http://www.crisisinterven...&Itemid=79 The United States has the world's highest rate of rape of all countries that publish rape statistics. 4 times higher than Germany 13 times higher than England 20 times higher than Japan Anyway, back on topic.... [Edited 4/28/10 12:02pm] I've met at least 25 french women in my life who told me they were raped at some point (not counting all the women i met who wouldn't mention it). Maybe 3 or 4 of them went to the police. The true numbers of rape in France are totally unknown because of this, but i've heard estimations up to 6 out of 10 women, and i wouldn't be surprised if that was true. We so-called "civilized" countries still have a looooong way to go before we can lecture "third world" countries about this! A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Well, I am still baffled as I fail to see the relevance
between Prince performing in Africa and homosexuality. And don't even try to make a case about...well, his past style of dress. Have you taken a look at the Maasai men? NelsonR said: I can only speak for South Africa...he is well known here, but is seen as a bit of an eccentric;
he has not played here, and I am sure people would really dig him. his songs are on the radio here all the time though... And I consider this to be the best response so far! It's coming from someone who actually lives in Africa; is a fan of Prince's; pays attention to what's playing on the airwaves; is in the music business; and therefore is able to attest, within a strong degree of educated intelligent presumption, just how much of a beneficial impact a visit paid by Prince would have not just for the Artist himself, but for Africans in South Africa. Such presumption, I am sure, holds true for other areas across the continent as well. Like any other business venture, it's all about maintaining a marketable presence in a particular demographic. Africa, I am confident, awaits Prince with open arms, as is evidenced by his continued airplay after having not visited for a long time. South Africa seems to be a good place to start. Patti Labelle just did a show there; Maxwell a couple years back selling out rapidly over 10,000 seats. So, therefore, non-existent, when one tries to pigeonhole and cast Prince into that kind of a limited potentiality, is somewhat oxymoronic. There is nothing non-existent about Prince. Prince has game. Africa is definitely on his agenda, and I can confidently say he will be coming with it full-blown, designed particularly and put together specially with just the right rhythms and beats for his African peeps! | |
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^this was also posted by someone who's actually an african
JBK said: Dewrede said: because they're homophobic and they think he's too feminine ?
I am an African and I can tell yo're damn right. I would add that people in Africa his music is viewed as too complex and too "White". You don't hear very much this kind of music on african radios [Edited 4/28/10 12:16pm] | |
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Dewrede said: ^this was also posted by someone who's actually an african
JBK said: I am an African and I can tell yo're damn right. I would add that people in Africa his music is viewed as too complex and too "White". You don't hear very much this kind of music on african radios [Edited 4/28/10 12:16pm] Yes, Dewrede, and as others have said, "Africa is a continent." JBK also said "However Prince is familiar to African music. Want a proof? Just listen to the guitar and melody in "Willing and able". Hence, the versatility of the genius that is Prince [Edited 4/28/10 12:52pm] | |
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databank said: 2elijah said: Anyway, back on topic.... [Edited 4/28/10 12:02pm] I've met at least 25 french women in my life who told me they were raped at some point (not counting all the women i met who wouldn't mention it). Maybe 3 or 4 of them went to the police. The true numbers of rape in France are totally unknown because of this, but i've heard estimations up to 6 out of 10 women, and i wouldn't be surprised if that was true. We so-called "civilized" countries still have a looooong way to go before we can lecture "third world" countries about this! (Bolded part) I agree. | |
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Love33 said: Dewrede said: ^this was also posted by someone who's actually an african
[Edited 4/28/10 12:16pm] Yes, Dewrede, and as others have said, "Africa is a continent." JBK also said "However Prince is familiar to African music. Want a proof? Just listen to the guitar and melody in "Willing and able". Hence, the versatility of the genius that is Prince [Edited 4/28/10 12:52pm] i'm fully aware that it's a continent are you dismissing JBK's comment ? [Edited 4/28/10 13:05pm] | |
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Dewrede said: Love33 said: Yes, Dewrede, and as others have said, "Africa is a continent." JBK also said "However Prince is familiar to African music. Want a proof? Just listen to the guitar and melody in "Willing and able". Hence, the versatility of the genius that is Prince [Edited 4/28/10 12:52pm] i'm fully aware that it's a continent So we have eliminated that disagreement What's left? You call it effeminacy? I say it's a sexy balance of Ida and Pingala, long existent in Africa. I also pointed you to the Maasai warriors | |
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Dewrede said: Love33 said: Yes, Dewrede, and as others have said, "Africa is a continent." JBK also said "However Prince is familiar to African music. Want a proof? Just listen to the guitar and melody in "Willing and able". Hence, the versatility of the genius that is Prince [Edited 4/28/10 12:52pm] i'm fully aware that it's a continent are you dismissing JBK's comment ? [Edited 4/28/10 13:05pm] No, of course not. He is fully entitled to his opinion. It was somewhat too generic though to be taken as a final analysis. NelsonR's, on the other hand, was fine-tuned to a narrower demographic. Perhaps JBK might want to clarify what country in Africa he was addressing ? | |
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