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Reply #90 posted 04/16/10 1:00pm

PurpleLove7

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LeanderWapshot said:

PurpleLove7 said:

P's lowest point was the passing of his baby and the divorce from Mayte. I don't think musically he's had a low point.


You don't think musically he's had a low point? Uhh, I think you just lost your privileges.


That's what my thinking is. What would be defined as a low point in a musician's career?

Album sales?
Decrease in sales on Live performances?
Decrease in sales with a artist website?
The YouTube fiasco?
The Web Sheriff fiasco?

What would you define as P's "lowest point in his career?"

... this a open question to the musicians and artist on p.org as well as the org family.
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Reply #91 posted 04/16/10 1:24pm

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luv4u said:

Now would be his lowest point.

I might agree. Target has it's remaining copies of "Lotusflow3r" selling for $4.99, but considering they aren't really advertising it anymore (they barely advertised it outside of the store anyway) no one cares....I don't know that anyone cared anyway. Barely any promotion for it, doesn't tour anymore and is really lost in Princeworld lately. He may never return back to earth.
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Reply #92 posted 04/16/10 1:47pm

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VinnyM27 said:

luv4u said:

Now would be his lowest point.

I might agree. Target has it's remaining copies of "Lotusflow3r" selling for $4.99, but considering they aren't really advertising it anymore (they barely advertised it outside of the store anyway) no one cares....I don't know that anyone cared anyway. Barely any promotion for it, doesn't tour anymore and is really lost in Princeworld lately. He may never return back to earth.

To be fair, although I hate Lotusflow3r, any album's sales are going to eventually taper off over time. Hell, you can get Purple Rain for $7.99 in a digipak. I found Very Best Of for $9 at Walmart as well.

It's not logical to keep it at the $11.99 price for that long. $8.99 would have been a fair price after the hype. There are also going to be left over product. It's why we can "discover" an album years after its release and still find it on the shelf, most times.

Prince hasn't even sold 500,000 copies at this point though. I wonder how many were manufactured. I would bet under a million, but over 500,000. It had to be a significant amount because of the evidential plethora of them remaining on the shelves.

There is a huge poster up in my local Target that is from the "Dreamer" commercial. No real promotion otherwise though that I've seen.

He ain't been on earth for years.
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Reply #93 posted 04/16/10 2:47pm

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ernestsewell said:

VinnyM27 said:


I might agree. Target has it's remaining copies of "Lotusflow3r" selling for $4.99, but considering they aren't really advertising it anymore (they barely advertised it outside of the store anyway) no one cares....I don't know that anyone cared anyway. Barely any promotion for it, doesn't tour anymore and is really lost in Princeworld lately. He may never return back to earth.

To be fair, although I hate Lotusflow3r, any album's sales are going to eventually taper off over time. Hell, you can get Purple Rain for $7.99 in a digipak. I found Very Best Of for $9 at Walmart as well.

It's not logical to keep it at the $11.99 price for that long. $8.99 would have been a fair price after the hype. There are also going to be left over product. It's why we can "discover" an album years after its release and still find it on the shelf, most times.

Prince hasn't even sold 500,000 copies at this point though. I wonder how many were manufactured. I would bet under a million, but over 500,000. It had to be a significant amount because of the evidential plethora of them remaining on the shelves.

There is a huge poster up in my local Target that is from the "Dreamer" commercial. No real promotion otherwise though that I've seen.

He ain't been on earth for years.


The album debuted at number 2 on the Billboard 200, selling 168,000 copies in its first week and becoming Prince's fourth consecutive Top 3 album in the U.S. and looking at that in simple terms, if the sale price was $9 that's $1,512,000.00 just on album sales alone. Not bad, I think ...
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Reply #94 posted 04/16/10 3:07pm

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PurpleLove7 said:

The album debuted at number 2 on the Billboard 200, selling 168,000 copies in its first week and becoming Prince's fourth consecutive Top 3 album in the U.S. and looking at that in simple terms, if the sale price was $9 that's $1,512,000.00 just on album sales alone. Not bad, I think ...
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That is back to the argument of an album being good vs successful, and does the two equate one to the other? I say not. His album was out over a year ago, and he's still not even went gold on it.
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Reply #95 posted 04/16/10 3:32pm

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any time that Prince reacts to negative forces around him, whether it be among his fans, the business world or even in the spiritual sphere, is a low moment for him. he should keep focusing on Judah the Lion, and continue with his attempt to share his unique truth with the masses.
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Reply #96 posted 04/16/10 4:03pm

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NelsonR said:

any time that Prince reacts to negative forces around him, whether it be among his fans, the business world or even in the spiritual sphere, is a low moment for him. he should keep focusing on Judah the Lion, and continue with his attempt to share his unique truth with the masses.

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Reply #97 posted 04/16/10 5:35pm

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Reply #98 posted 04/16/10 5:40pm

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ernestsewell said:

Huggiebear said:

When he released "The Rainbow Children" what was he smoking - mandrax?????

Larry's pole.


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Reply #99 posted 04/16/10 7:19pm

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daPrettyman said:

This question just popped in my mind this morning. Every artist has a low point in their career. When I say lowest point, I don't necessarily mean low sales or bad music, per se, but overall lowest point.

To me, one of his lowest points would have to be between 1999-2001. He seemed to have been looking for himself and trying to get himself together. He had just been through the breakup with Mayte and was trying to follow the hip-hop/pop trends of the time, but never really successfully adapted. He then did the Hit and Run tour at small venues. That tour seemed to be the type of tour he HAD to do to bring in some quick money.
What do u guys think?


Funny you should mention this because I remembered seeing this when I lived in Atlanta and compared to the Jam of the YEar tour a few years earlier, it was a far more subdued affair.

It didn't have the same fire of the JOTY tour and the venue, the Atlanta Civic Center, was crap compared to the Fox.

Musically, he was at an odd place. I was not a fan of the Rave album or of the era, but he at least had The Rainbow Children as an end piece to this era, which showed he still had some creativity left.
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Reply #100 posted 04/16/10 7:53pm

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Reply #101 posted 04/16/10 8:00pm

ernestsewell

Also, when he selfishly said, "I am music."

Lucifer had a similar attitude.
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Reply #102 posted 04/21/10 8:13am

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