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PrintableNow, for sure. Non fans just think he's insane. | |
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SoulAlive said: purpledoveuk said: The Morning Papers CD single - the minute that single came out with Live 4 Love as a B-side it was apparent something was wrong/had changed. After that there appear to have been more downs than ups
That was the wrong choice for a single.A much better choice would have been "And God Created Woman". It was the fact that any old track was whacked on instead of a proper b-side or relevant song | |
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purplesweat said: Now, for sure. Non fans just think he's insane.
That's because they don't follow him closely. If they did they'd knew he's just a prick. | |
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Graycap23 said: I'd say the low point was pulling the actual cd he had prepared at the beginning of the London Tours and replacing it with the last minute thrown together project known as "Planet Earth". That was a disjointed project from the word go. It is the only "official" Prince cd that I never play. what new cd had prepared that planet earth replaced? not heard that before. |
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purplesweat said: Now, for sure. Non fans just think he's insane.
That's always been the case. "New Power slide...." |
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When he hooked up with ding dong graham , and Right NOW!!!! | |
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purpledoveuk said: SoulAlive said: That was the wrong choice for a single.A much better choice would have been "And God Created Woman". It was the fact that any old track was whacked on instead of a proper b-side or relevant song ah,I see what you mean  | |
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Graycap23 said: Without question the lowest point in Prince's life was after the release of Emancipation having 2 deal with the passing of his son. That still impacts the man 2 this very day.
From a creative stand point, the man has been releasing material constantly 4 the past 31 years and has rarely disappointed me outside of a few tracks here and there. I'd say the low point was pulling the actual cd he had prepared at the beginning of the London Tours and replacing it with the last minute thrown together project known as "Planet Earth". That was a disjointed project from the word go. It is the only "official" Prince cd that I never play. So you're still sticking to the story that you had heard a different record, beginning with Dance the dance Electric? Wanna provide any more details? "We've never been able to pull off a funk number"
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easily right now for me
its wierd where he's gonna go next? Internet ? naaaaah another 'shop' deal (hopefully-1 that ships internationally this time!!!) he's not into touring anymore..... and man has he wound ALOT of folk up since the superb 2007 which was my fave P year and to top that-the last 2 new tunes have been sooooo bad  | |
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SoulAlive said: purpledoveuk said: It was the fact that any old track was whacked on instead of a proper b-side or relevant song ah,I see what you mean I remember at the time that it struck me as lazy and I thought " I hope this isn't a sign of things to come"...sure enough it was pretty much the same from then in in with just a few flashes of effort and genuine enthusiasm | |
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purpledoveuk said: SoulAlive said: ah,I see what you mean I remember at the time that it struck me as lazy and I thought " I hope this isn't a sign of things to come"...sure enough it was pretty much the same from then in in with just a few flashes of effort and genuine enthusiasm Prince has been doing that off and on since the beginning of his career. The b-side to Controversy was When You Were Mine, and the b-side to I Wanna Be Your Lover was My Love Is Forever. So, him choosing a previous album track for a b-side was nothing new to 1992 or anything. | |
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errant said: the 1998 and 1999 NPS/Rave era was pretty bad, but there were a fair number of decent tracks and ideas spread throughout it.
all that stuff he recorded in 2000 for High and Peace took the plastic sound to a whole other (lower) level. the lyrical blurring of his spirituality, angry non-sensical politics, and his own bitching and maoning about his struggle with radio and record labels might have been something he needed to get out of his system, and I'm glad he did (outside of an album), but it's nearly unlistenable and doesn't add up to much. combined with the half-assed stage band and the schizo medley-marred setlists of the tour around that time (what was it called? Hit + Run? Prince: A Celebration? whatever) was the only time in the last 20 years that I was completely turned off by Prince and for about 2 years there (between Rave and Rainbow Children) didn't listen to him, didn't care about him, didn't come to the org or even plan on buying tickets to his show that was scheduled a half hour away from me in the middle of the big-name entertainment no-man's land where I live (it was cancelled with the rest of the dates anyway). I agree, NPS/Rave ok-ish but the NPGMC/High stuff... pure bilge! 3121... Don't U Wanna Come? |
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skywalker said: purplesweat said: Now, for sure. Non fans just think he's insane.
That's always been the case. Especially guys. A lot of women, for some reason, don't (at least the ones I've met that aren't that into him. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Has to Be Rave era.
While the PP parties around this time were some of my favorite memories, the fact that he put so many collaborations with young artists on that album makes it look like a wash up trying to create new interest from a younger audience. What you got was a sub-par Prince album with a dash and pinch of Eve, Gwen, Chuck, Sheryl etc. thrown in so the track list would appeal to a younger audience. The contributions of the actual artist were minimal and it showed. Prince is just too strong a personality and genius for other people to really have an impact on something recorded with him. Then you throw in the "Produced by Prince" credit when he was still the Symbol, and you almost smell the hint of weakness in the whole name change thing, while also trying to produce buzz about the album. A huge Building graphic in Times square in every camera shot on whatever Carson Daily's MTV show was called, a year 2000 pay-per-view event, and the album still does a relatively poor ROI? that has to be the lowest. Not to mention this is also when his Marriage to Mayte falls apart and you start seeing pornstars turning up at PP parties. ick. [Edited 4/13/10 10:24am] "It's all good when U no the only fame is the light that comes from God, and the joy U get 2 say His name." | |
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alexnvrmnd777 said: purpledoveuk said: I remember at the time that it struck me as lazy and I thought " I hope this isn't a sign of things to come"...sure enough it was pretty much the same from then in in with just a few flashes of effort and genuine enthusiasm Prince has been doing that off and on since the beginning of his career. The b-side to Controversy was When You Were Mine, and the b-side to I Wanna Be Your Lover was My Love Is Forever. So, him choosing a previous album track for a b-side was nothing new to 1992 or anything. In the early days, it was a record company's way of back-promoting the artist's last album. Besides, Prince didn't care because he collected the full amount of the royalties since he wrote both songs on the single. I've learned from Millie Jackson that back in the day, people fought over the b-side of a song. They did this because who ever wrote the b-side song got half of the royalties from the single sales. For instance, Stevie Wonder got a nice payday with "I Can't Help It" because it was a b-side during the OTW era on a number one song (RWU I think). **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: luv4u said: Now would be his lowest point.
You really think so? He seems to be on top of the world, personally, right now. Yes, he may have hit a professional low with the Lotus fiasco, but the mainstream public is not really apart of the fiasco, only the fans who joined the website. Right - he is still in demand and it is an event when he makes a public appearance. The public still cares. Micheal Jackson could no longer say that until there was a legal case or the announcement of the tour that never happened. | |
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Letting TC Ellis rap. All good things they say never last... | |
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GottaLetitgo said: Letting TC Ellis rap.
YES! This would be the correct answer... Runners up include - Jughead - Graffiti Bridge Movie - Planet Earth album - Deciding to make Lovesexy one long cd track (ok, maybe I hate this one the most). - Elixir - Interactive CD Rom and Loutusflower website (tie) everything else has been pretty freaking awesome.  | |
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kingrock said: GottaLetitgo said: Letting TC Ellis rap.
YES! This would be the correct answer... Runners up include - Jughead - Graffiti Bridge Movie - Planet Earth album - Deciding to make Lovesexy one long cd track (ok, maybe I hate this one the most). - Elixir - Interactive CD Rom and Loutusflower website (tie) everything else has been pretty freaking awesome. Those are just things you dislike. They weren't low points in a career. | |
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ernestsewell said: kingrock said: YES! This would be the correct answer... Runners up include - Jughead - Graffiti Bridge Movie - Planet Earth album - Deciding to make Lovesexy one long cd track (ok, maybe I hate this one the most). - Elixir - Interactive CD Rom and Loutusflower website (tie) everything else has been pretty freaking awesome. Those are just things you dislike. They weren't low points in a career. Ok - I understand where you are coming from, Ernest... My new vote would be "Getting booed offstage at the LA Colesseum the first night that he opened for the Stones". And "Jughead" still sucks. | |
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kingrock said: ernestsewell said: Those are just things you dislike. They weren't low points in a career. Ok - I understand where you are coming from, Ernest... My new vote would be "Getting booed offstage at the LA Colesseum the first night that he opened for the Stones". And "Jughead" still sucks. No disagreement about "Judghead"! haha The Stones gig was truly a rough point. | |
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for me it has to be the Rave era. Watching him dashing around Europe desperatley trying to push the CD on kids TV shows [Any and Dec UK anyone!], doing stuff that he wouldn't have dreamed of etc. | |
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SoulAlive said: purpledoveuk said: The Morning Papers CD single - the minute that single came out with Live 4 Love as a B-side it was apparent something was wrong/had changed. After that there appear to have been more downs than ups
That was the wrong choice for a single.A much better choice would have been "And God Created Woman".  Intelligent people talk about ideas. -->Average people talk about things. --> Small people talk about other people. | |
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The easier question is What's his highest point cause if i wasn't a fan I'd think he was some Little Richard wannabe loser. But since I am, I'd say now cause i haven't heard one positive thing bout him this yr. April usually brings showers
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The obvious and irresistable answer is NOW. | |
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PurpleLove7 said: P's lowest point was the passing of his baby and the divorce from Mayte. I don't think musically he's had a low point.
You don't think musically he's had a low point? Uhh, I think you just lost your privileges. | |
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annastesia101 said: The easier question is What's his highest point cause if i wasn't a fan I'd think he was some Little Richard wannabe loser. But since I am, I'd say now cause i haven't heard one positive thing bout him this yr.
There is 1 positive thing about him this year.....he is still alive. [Edited 4/15/10 20:43pm] | |
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daPrettyman said: This question just popped in my mind this morning. Every artist has a low point in their career. When I say lowest point, I don't necessarily mean low sales or bad music, per se, but overall lowest point.
To me, one of his lowest points would have to be between 1999-2001. He seemed to have been looking for himself and trying to get himself together. He had just been through the breakup with Mayte and was trying to follow the hip-hop/pop trends of the time, but never really successfully adapted. He then did the Hit and Run tour at small venues. That tour seemed to be the type of tour he HAD to do to bring in some quick money. What do u guys think? Having a meeting with MJ for the Bad album. "I have so much love for Prince. But why don't they look at me that way"- MJ | |
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When he released "The Rainbow Children" what was he smoking - mandrax????? So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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Huggiebear said: When he released "The Rainbow Children" what was he smoking - mandrax?????
Larry's pole. | |
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