Bohemian67 said:

Good point ... I was not thinking of it that way. You would think that he would take one album or perhaps two and write about his divorces and say the death of his child. I know what that feels like so I can speak from personal experience.

Career-wise, I'd say around 2001-3, TRC & NEWS era. But TRC is his last great album, IMO.

The least interesting time artistically for me is 1999, oddly. (year, not album!)
Musicology-Planet Earth was not my favorite era either (Musicology tour aside)

I am pretty happy with Lotusflow3r/MPLSound, though

Graycap23 said:

I agree, aside from a few songs it's just not an enjoyable or interesting album.

Lovesexy was a great time for me to be a fan, but the album was a flop, and it seemed like public interest had really died off.

Bohemian67 said:

No one said it didn't.

The question was, "What would u consider Prince's lowest point in his career?" Crap music, bad internet business, jilted fans, etc. Those are low points in his career, and many times have not happened because of anything in his personal life, other than him being a dick about things, but that's status quo it seems lately.

now

skywalker said:

What fiasco?

luv4u said:

Yeah Id say a impodent Prince - brainwashed by Larry Graham is pretty much the lowest.

skywalker said:

and that completely standoffishly disinterested interview with Mel B on UK television - he still packed out Wembley Arena tho so it can't be all bad, and the tour merely showed how willing he is too take the spotlight off himself every once in a while. Or just once.

I can't say Crystal Ball was a fiasco, but i was having too much fun in my first year at Uni to be foot tapping by the letterbox. All the mail got sent to the porters office, see?

but yes, easily '99-'01. dropped off the radar.

http://www.facebook.com/p...1064480595 (mock MTG photo)

Musically speaking, his lowest point started with Musicology and hasn't stop going downhill yet.

The first time he saw the org.

Easily,around the time of Rave. The CD debuted at #19. Today any CD he puts out debuts in the Top 10.

2freaky4church1 said:

No doubt. He's always been, and will always be a HUGE attraction.





T'was though. Seriously, it was HUGE in terms of hardcore fans being pissed about how it was delivered, etc.. I remember the backlash being much more vicious and widespread amongst fans than Lotusflow3r.

2freaky4church1 said:

For me, it is the NPS/Truth/OldFriends/Rave/TRC/NEWS/InternetAlbums Era

I only dig three or four songs of that era ..

JoeTyler said:

But a fan digging a song vs. a low point in a career are two very different things.

ernestsewell said:

Well, for me those years (97-03) are his low point in terms of weak material & uninteresing/godawful albums...

Lovesexy was the low point of his career in terms of style...

JoeTyler said:

I get ur point, but if u listen to the music from the era u mentioned, Prince was still trying to figure out what kind of artist he was and also how to function as an "independent" artist.

Prince was the only act that I can recall to be on the level he was on to say F the industry and I'll just do it on my on. He had a great beginning with TMBGITW, but when he finally got "free", he released an album (Emancipation) that wasn't well received by the masses and sounded like he was really trying to hard to keep up with trends.

I wouldn't necessarily say that all of those years were "low" points, but an artist trying to transition from being one of the biggest pop stars in the world to a small independent act.

To me, the lowest point came around the Rave era. It was like he hit rock bottom both personally and professionally. His marriage was over. He was trying to make a comeback as a pop star with Rave and everything just didn't work.

1998-2006. He finally got his footing with 3121, then slipped again.

its pretty obvious now is not just low, its completely over!! He is done and there is no coming back from this. He just doesnt have it anymore. Im just glad I grew up on him and got to enjoy him and didnt just get on board late like I did with many other artists that I discovered at their end. I am very thankful for that.

dandeeland said:

wow....sounds like ur at ur lowest.
I agree with others here that, to me as far as his releases are concerned, The rave album/era is his lowest. The whole package seems so desperate to me. The music, the look(blue suit worse than the assless pants IMO) the concept. He was almost 40! What's more embarresing than the "trying to save the the lambs" effort was that the rave album had some interesting moments but importantly it had some great artists as well...chuck d, ani defranco. Trying to chase the santana duets thing seems silly for a guy who is such a control freak. Would love hear a real studio session with ani and prince and others. I don't hate it though but it definately sits at the bottom of the stack....although I might give it a spin tonight.

Definitely whenever he looks at the ridiculous postings from bashers on the org...stay away Prince, it's not worth it.

ernestsewell said:

If you consider the so called bad music part, then I would say that whenever certain tracks are made, they could have been done in a period when Prince wasn't feeling optimal about life in general, due to personal circumstances, so his creativity was low.

Bad internet business. I was only part of LF and didn't consider it a debacle. I seriously doubt whether any internet "bad business" could be considered a low point in Prince's career.In a Prince fan's "life" maybe yes.

Jilted fans I don't really believe in because fans conveniently forget the nice things Prince has done, e.g. The Paisley concert last year after it having been closed to that for so long. Besides when fans feel "jilted" why is it a low point for Prince? When he stood up for his copyrighted stuff and started sending cease and desist letters, it might actually have been a high for him.

Graffiti Bridge? The movie not the album, of course. Not for Damon Dickson's spectacular performance that would be the worst movie of all time.

Special consideration goes to Crystal Ball and now.

NDRU said:

Yeah,1988 was a strange year.That's when it became evident that the mainstream audience was losing interest in Prince.Our local R&B station (KSOL) used to play all of Prince's singles.With 'Lovesexy',they only played the first single,totally ignoring the two follow-up singles.

But for us fans,it was an exciting time.The album,the tour,the band...I love that era!

It's a close tie between pulling the lamp off stage at the James Brown gig and the last year or two. Musically he's not doing it for me anymore. He's lost his mojo. Didn't he ask in one of his songs recently about whether he should have been a pop star or grow up? I think he's lost sight of lots of things and by trying to organise his spiritual life his musical direction has suffered greatly.

The trouble with living in a bubble I imagine. Or at least a different bubble to the one I'm in.

The Morning Papers CD single - the minute that single came out with Live 4 Love as a B-side it was apparent something was wrong/had changed. After that there appear to have been more downs than ups

purpledoveuk said:

That was the wrong choice for a single.A much better choice would have been "And God Created Woman".