PurpleDiamond2009 said: IstenSzek said: there were some nice reports from the ONA tour, where people had a chance
to interact with him during soundchecks. but then there was also the sand dollar story, so it's pretty much a two way situation, i guess what is this sand dollar story that everyone is talking about??? ive been hearing about it every since i came to this website can someone tell me what this is?? is there an archive thread on this anywhere?? Co-sign ! What is the "sand dollar story" ? Somebody tells us, please. I'm sure it's hilarious | |
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SherryJackson said: Mindflux said: Did you meet MJ? And, how can you say that you don't want to compare MJ and Prince when you did exactly that in the sentence before that statement?! Hey you, chill! No i sadly never had the honour of meeting MJ.I know several fans who did. Very lucky indeed. They got hugs, kisses, and some got to meet his children. *sigh* I never met Prince, so I didn't know what to think of how Prince would act around his fans. I've read in other forums that he doesn't care or is very dismissive of his fans. This is a small world, and one day, perhaps my friend and I would meet Prince, I didn't want him to be utterly disappointed if Prince was aloof with him. But somewhere in my heart of cynical hearts, I figured Prince was really a down to earth, nice man. I just wanted a little back-up to help substantiate my opinion. And no I do NOT want to compare MJ with Prince, musically or otherwise. I've seen too many of these comparisons happen on other threads and I didn't want that to happen here. I merely stated that as an MJ fan, I'm used to seeing MJ be kind, sweet and generous to his fans. That's it. I was in no way comparing him to Prince. Comparing the two is like trying to compare fire and water...both essential for life, both very different. At Militant, thank you for telling me your story. I will look it up on here, but thank you for telling me again. Thanks to all who came on to answer. Peace and love to you all....<3 I'm sorry Miss Jackson, but I think you need to chill there. I asked 2 simple questions - what's "unrelaxed" about that? And the questions were asked for good reason. Ok - let's break it down. You started with; "I have this friend who is under the impression that Prince is a down-to-earth good person who's friendly to people he meets (be gentle, I say!). " This statement implies that you think your friend is under a false impression. Its a loaded statement, because you already think the opposite and you are expecting people to agree "(be gentle, I say)" is the giveaway. "Now, I've never met Prince, but the stories I've heard are not the greatest." That further solidifies the fact that you have negative expectations, even though you admit you have never met Prince, so you are going to trust in hearsay. "My friend and I are MJ fans, we're used to our hero being sweet and kind to his fans (anyone of you start hatin' on MJ, sod off )." This one is massively contentious. First off, its a lie. You are not "used to our hero being sweet" as you have never met him! This is precisely why I asked if you had met MJ in person. You are used to hearing stories that MJ was "sweet and kind". You then, very kindly, warn people about crossing a line with your hero. So, you're asking questions, but trying to lead the response. That's called having an agenda. "Now I don't want to compare MJ to Prince or anything like that. But so I have something to tell my friend... lol - you say this, but you just have compared them, whether you meant to or not! And you're not comparing them through experience, but just from things you've heard. You've not heard "the greatest" things about Prince, but are "used to" MJ being "sweet and kind" (although, again, this is just what you've heard. Granted, at least on that basis, you have set up an equal comparison (one that is based on second-hand information), but set up the comparison you have. Its also odd this "so I have something to tell my friend". Let's get this straight. Your friend believes that someone is a good person and you want to shoot down their illusion? Cos, that's how it seems. You further cement your biased opinion (as if we needed another insight) with "*prepares to be shot down*" following a request for any examples of Prince being nice. If you're going to try and load a thread with only the responses that you are looking for, you need to be a damn sight more subtle than that! All this pretty much deals with your second response, where you attempt to gloss over this by stating that is all benevolent, just in case your friend ever meets Prince Surely there are some actually worthwhile causes you could devote your time to? Regardless, you didn't exactly get what you were looking for, did you? Most of the responses here do tell of a favourable experience when meeting Prince. So, the question is, what are you going to tell your friend in preparation for that chance meeting?! [Edited 4/10/10 6:35am] ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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I've got a few stories...
The major one was relative to the Celebration Concert in 2000 in Minneapolis. My wife was called up to dance on stage. She was so nervous and excited that she tripped a bit when going over the barrier between the crowd and the stage. So, Prince came halfway down the steps and held out his hand and helped her up the steps. When they got to the top, he put his hand on her shoulder and asked, "Are you okay?" She replied, "Yes...um...Prince," with a huge smile. He gave her a quick one-armed hug and then went on about his business. My other stories all relate to soundchecks and the parties at Paisley during the Celebration 2000 week. During all of those instances, his interaction with us was cool and aloof, but not mean or degrading in any sort of way... He acted exactly like I expected the persona of Prince to act. | |
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missjay23 said: PurpleDiamond2009 said: what is this sand dollar story that everyone is talking about??? ive been hearing about it every since i came to this website can someone tell me what this is?? is there an archive thread on this anywhere?? Co-sign ! What is the "sand dollar story" ? Somebody tells us, please. I'm sure it's hilarious it's a long story. i'm not sure i remember all the details anyway but it was at a soundcheck during the ona tour and some woman got to the stage and presented prince with a sand dollar. prince broke it the shitstorm that ensued from that was one of the most surreal moments in prince online history. long story short: lives were ruined because prince (accidentally?) broke the gift. lol. i think there was actually a thread called "prince ruined my life and destroyed my gift". something like that. madness, i tell you, madness and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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IstenSzek said: missjay23 said: Co-sign ! What is the "sand dollar story" ? Somebody tells us, please. I'm sure it's hilarious it's a long story. i'm not sure i remember all the details anyway but it was at a soundcheck during the ona tour and some woman got to the stage and presented prince with a sand dollar. prince broke it the shitstorm that ensued from that was one of the most surreal moments in prince online history. long story short: lives were ruined because prince (accidentally?) broke the gift. lol. i think there was actually a thread called "prince ruined my life and destroyed my gift". something like that. madness, i tell you, madness Thank you | |
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Great to see these stories. Some pretty funny ones too!
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Never met him but my friend patted him down at the airport once. The funniest thing was when he was describing what he had on. He said he had on some sequined silver button outfit. He said Prince looked at him and told him sarcastically go on and pat me down and Prince rolled his eyes at him....lol...I think it was during the Mayte years. He said he had some puerto rican looking woman with a dog with her and he was tiny and smelled good.... will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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IstenSzek said: missjay23 said: Co-sign ! What is the "sand dollar story" ? Somebody tells us, please. I'm sure it's hilarious it's a long story. i'm not sure i remember all the details anyway but it was at a soundcheck during the ona tour and some woman got to the stage and presented prince with a sand dollar. prince broke it the shitstorm that ensued from that was one of the most surreal moments in prince online history. long story short: lives were ruined because prince (accidentally?) broke the gift. lol. i think there was actually a thread called "prince ruined my life and destroyed my gift". something like that. madness, i tell you, madness I think the orignal sand dollar thread was deleted as it even spilled into the npg club site at the time, it lives on only in our hearts for its pure win epicness of how crazy some mofo's on here can really be, I think her name was rebecca or somin. another favorite is Divinity6 and her thread http://prince.org/msg/12/11483, total nutcase... But to answer your Q, just like everyone, he has good days and bad, but unlike us he has weird ass fams watchin his ass 24/7, waiting to post crap about anything they decide is unusual - SherryJackson said: Prince is a down-to-earth good person who's friendly to people he meets
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bober said: omg i forgot about that one pure comic genius. gonna read that. btw: your username and avatar are both great and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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Mindflux said: SherryJackson said: Hey you, chill! No i sadly never had the honour of meeting MJ.I know several fans who did. Very lucky indeed. They got hugs, kisses, and some got to meet his children. *sigh* I never met Prince, so I didn't know what to think of how Prince would act around his fans. I've read in other forums that he doesn't care or is very dismissive of his fans. This is a small world, and one day, perhaps my friend and I would meet Prince, I didn't want him to be utterly disappointed if Prince was aloof with him. But somewhere in my heart of cynical hearts, I figured Prince was really a down to earth, nice man. I just wanted a little back-up to help substantiate my opinion. And no I do NOT want to compare MJ with Prince, musically or otherwise. I've seen too many of these comparisons happen on other threads and I didn't want that to happen here. I merely stated that as an MJ fan, I'm used to seeing MJ be kind, sweet and generous to his fans. That's it. I was in no way comparing him to Prince. Comparing the two is like trying to compare fire and water...both essential for life, both very different. At Militant, thank you for telling me your story. I will look it up on here, but thank you for telling me again. Thanks to all who came on to answer. Peace and love to you all....<3 I'm sorry Miss Jackson, but I think you need to chill there. I asked 2 simple questions - what's "unrelaxed" about that? And the questions were asked for good reason. Ok - let's break it down. You started with; "I have this friend who is under the impression that Prince is a down-to-earth good person who's friendly to people he meets (be gentle, I say!). " This statement implies that you think your friend is under a false impression. Its a loaded statement, because you already think the opposite and you are expecting people to agree "(be gentle, I say)" is the giveaway. "Now, I've never met Prince, but the stories I've heard are not the greatest." That further solidifies the fact that you have negative expectations, even though you admit you have never met Prince, so you are going to trust in hearsay. "My friend and I are MJ fans, we're used to our hero being sweet and kind to his fans (anyone of you start hatin' on MJ, sod off )." This one is massively contentious. First off, its a lie. You are not "used to our hero being sweet" as you have never met him! This is precisely why I asked if you had met MJ in person. You are used to hearing stories that MJ was "sweet and kind". You then, very kindly, warn people about crossing a line with your hero. So, you're asking questions, but trying to lead the response. That's called having an agenda. "Now I don't want to compare MJ to Prince or anything like that. But so I have something to tell my friend... lol - you say this, but you just have compared them, whether you meant to or not! And you're not comparing them through experience, but just from things you've heard. You've not heard "the greatest" things about Prince, but are "used to" MJ being "sweet and kind" (although, again, this is just what you've heard. Granted, at least on that basis, you have set up an equal comparison (one that is based on second-hand information), but set up the comparison you have. Its also odd this "so I have something to tell my friend". Let's get this straight. Your friend believes that someone is a good person and you want to shoot down their illusion? Cos, that's how it seems. You further cement your biased opinion (as if we needed another insight) with "*prepares to be shot down*" following a request for any examples of Prince being nice. If you're going to try and load a thread with only the responses that you are looking for, you need to be a damn sight more subtle than that! All this pretty much deals with your second response, where you attempt to gloss over this by stating that is all benevolent, just in case your friend ever meets Prince Surely there are some actually worthwhile causes you could devote your time to? Regardless, you didn't exactly get what you were looking for, did you? Most of the responses here do tell of a favourable experience when meeting Prince. So, the question is, what are you going to tell your friend in preparation for that chance meeting?! [Edited 4/10/10 6:35am] Haha...why do I have this feeling you're always trying to find something in my words to stir up controversy? I'm not here to fight with you, man. Really, I'm not. I only started this thread because yes, I was under the impression, mostly from comments by fans on various threads on this page, describing how Prince is distant, or uncaring for his fans. That was the impression I was under. That's it. My apologies for sounding rather biased. That's my mistake and I acknowledge that. But hey, I was willing to give Prince the benefit of the doubt to start this thread in the first place. I myself am curious to find out what kind of person Prince is. I never had the honour to meet the man, so I really didn't know what to think. And I thought I was asking a stupid question, so I didn't know how others would react to my question. Again, I apologize for my original bias. But hey, my opinion has drastically changed. And about my friend and I....is it really wrong to do a favour for a friend? Yes I do have a life. But this is someone I care for and I wanted to make him happy, as well as satisfy my own curiousity, since this was a topic of interest for me. Nothing wrong with that, is there? He read the thread and he was happy. My honest and sincerest apologies if I offended you or anyone on this thread. I honestly did not mean to. Please forgive me. I shall edit my original post to remove any bias I see there. 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SherryJackson said: Hey peeps...
I have this friend who wonders if Prince is a down-to-earth good person who's friendly to people he meets. Now, I've never met Prince, but the stories I've heard are not the greatest. But for I and my friend's benefit... Has anyone ever met Prince...and had a favorable account to tell of him as a down-to-earth, good person? [Edited 4/11/10 22:03pm] Wasn't properly introduced, we did have a short staring contest though.. but I met Sheila E 3 times!!! and her Dad, Mom and 2 sisters..sweet family. "Its flier to B hungry than fat" | |
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SherryJackson said: Hey peeps...
If I saw Prince, why should I expect him to be nice to me? He's given me more than enough via his music. Why should I expect more? That would mean I thought very highly of myself, which I am not saying I do not, lol.
I have this friend who wonders if Prince is a down-to-earth good person who's friendly to people he meets. Now, I've never met Prince, but the stories I've heard are not the greatest. But for I and my friend's benefit... Has anyone ever met Prince...and had a favorable account to tell of him as a down-to-earth, good person? [Edited 4/11/10 22:03pm] Andy --------
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SherryJackson said: Haha...why do I have this feeling you're always trying to find something in my words to stir up controversy? I'm not here to fight with you, man. Really, I'm not. I only started this thread because yes, I was under the impression, mostly from comments by fans on various threads on this page, describing how Prince is distant, or uncaring for his fans. That was the impression I was under. That's it. My apologies for sounding rather biased. That's my mistake and I acknowledge that. But hey, I was willing to give Prince the benefit of the doubt to start this thread in the first place. I myself am curious to find out what kind of person Prince is. I never had the honour to meet the man, so I really didn't know what to think. And I thought I was asking a stupid question, so I didn't know how others would react to my question. Again, I apologize for my original bias. But hey, my opinion has drastically changed. And about my friend and I....is it really wrong to do a favour for a friend? Yes I do have a life. But this is someone I care for and I wanted to make him happy, as well as satisfy my own curiousity, since this was a topic of interest for me. Nothing wrong with that, is there? He read the thread and he was happy. My honest and sincerest apologies if I offended you or anyone on this thread. I honestly did not mean to. Please forgive me. I shall edit my original post to remove any bias I see there. Peace, Mindflux.I honestly meant no harm. [Edited 4/11/10 22:05pm] Its all good. There was no offence to be taken, I was just working out where you were coming from and likewise meant no harm Peace back at ya ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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Mindflux said: SherryJackson said: Haha...why do I have this feeling you're always trying to find something in my words to stir up controversy? I'm not here to fight with you, man. Really, I'm not. I only started this thread because yes, I was under the impression, mostly from comments by fans on various threads on this page, describing how Prince is distant, or uncaring for his fans. That was the impression I was under. That's it. My apologies for sounding rather biased. That's my mistake and I acknowledge that. But hey, I was willing to give Prince the benefit of the doubt to start this thread in the first place. I myself am curious to find out what kind of person Prince is. I never had the honour to meet the man, so I really didn't know what to think. And I thought I was asking a stupid question, so I didn't know how others would react to my question. Again, I apologize for my original bias. But hey, my opinion has drastically changed. And about my friend and I....is it really wrong to do a favour for a friend? Yes I do have a life. But this is someone I care for and I wanted to make him happy, as well as satisfy my own curiousity, since this was a topic of interest for me. Nothing wrong with that, is there? He read the thread and he was happy. My honest and sincerest apologies if I offended you or anyone on this thread. I honestly did not mean to. Please forgive me. I shall edit my original post to remove any bias I see there. Peace, Mindflux.I honestly meant no harm. [Edited 4/11/10 22:05pm] Its all good. There was no offence to be taken, I was just working out where you were coming from and likewise meant no harm Peace back at ya Andy --------
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squirrelgrease said: I guess I'll meet up with him in Hell. So I'm gonna have to get back to ya on that... as long as Hell has WiFi. Hell is anywhere.--------
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squirrelgrease said: muirdo said: I reckon hell will have "dialup" I'm gonna hear that annoyingly screechy "whhhhheeeeeoooo" in Hell? I'd better straighten my act up a bit then. *Note to self: Go to church on Sunday to avoid dial-up* --------
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PurpleLove7 said: SherryJackson said: Hey peeps...
I have this friend who is under the impression that Prince is a down-to-earth good person who's friendly to people he meets (be gentle, I say!). Now, I've never met Prince, but the stories I've heard are not the greatest. My friend and I are MJ fans, we're used to our hero being sweet and kind to his fans (anyone of you start hatin' on MJ, sod off ). Now I don't want to compare MJ to Prince or anything like that. But so I have something to tell my friend... Has anyone ever met Prince...and had a favorable account to tell of him as a down-to-earth, good person? *prepares to be shot down* I met Prince back when he was doing the 3121 Las Vegas shows. We went to the 2nd show and he was actually meeting people after the after-show. I'm a rather chatty cat and my wife is the quiet type or not as vocal as I am. Prince put his hand out for me to shake it and I looked him in the eye(s) and I forgot my name, I forgot my wife's name and I was stuck. LoL Funny thing is, she had to talk with him. After I was able to gather myself I said a few words and thank him for the music. Andy --------
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Mindflux said: SherryJackson said: Hey you, chill! No i sadly never had the honour of meeting MJ.I know several fans who did. Very lucky indeed. They got hugs, kisses, and some got to meet his children. *sigh* I never met Prince, so I didn't know what to think of how Prince would act around his fans. I've read in other forums that he doesn't care or is very dismissive of his fans. This is a small world, and one day, perhaps my friend and I would meet Prince, I didn't want him to be utterly disappointed if Prince was aloof with him. But somewhere in my heart of cynical hearts, I figured Prince was really a down to earth, nice man. I just wanted a little back-up to help substantiate my opinion. And no I do NOT want to compare MJ with Prince, musically or otherwise. I've seen too many of these comparisons happen on other threads and I didn't want that to happen here. I merely stated that as an MJ fan, I'm used to seeing MJ be kind, sweet and generous to his fans. That's it. I was in no way comparing him to Prince. Comparing the two is like trying to compare fire and water...both essential for life, both very different. At Militant, thank you for telling me your story. I will look it up on here, but thank you for telling me again. Thanks to all who came on to answer. Peace and love to you all....<3 I'm sorry Miss Jackson, but I think you need to chill there. I asked 2 simple questions - what's "unrelaxed" about that? And the questions were asked for good reason. Ok - let's break it down. You started with; "I have this friend who is under the impression that Prince is a down-to-earth good person who's friendly to people he meets (be gentle, I say!). " This statement implies that you think your friend is under a false impression. Its a loaded statement, because you already think the opposite and you are expecting people to agree "(be gentle, I say)" is the giveaway. "Now, I've never met Prince, but the stories I've heard are not the greatest." That further solidifies the fact that you have negative expectations, even though you admit you have never met Prince, so you are going to trust in hearsay. "My friend and I are MJ fans, we're used to our hero being sweet and kind to his fans (anyone of you start hatin' on MJ, sod off )." This one is massively contentious. First off, its a lie. You are not "used to our hero being sweet" as you have never met him! This is precisely why I asked if you had met MJ in person. You are used to hearing stories that MJ was "sweet and kind". You then, very kindly, warn people about crossing a line with your hero. So, you're asking questions, but trying to lead the response. That's called having an agenda. "Now I don't want to compare MJ to Prince or anything like that. But so I have something to tell my friend... lol - you say this, but you just have compared them, whether you meant to or not! And you're not comparing them through experience, but just from things you've heard. You've not heard "the greatest" things about Prince, but are "used to" MJ being "sweet and kind" (although, again, this is just what you've heard. Granted, at least on that basis, you have set up an equal comparison (one that is based on second-hand information), but set up the comparison you have. Its also odd this "so I have something to tell my friend". Let's get this straight. Your friend believes that someone is a good person and you want to shoot down their illusion? Cos, that's how it seems. You further cement your biased opinion (as if we needed another insight) with "*prepares to be shot down*" following a request for any examples of Prince being nice. If you're going to try and load a thread with only the responses that you are looking for, you need to be a damn sight more subtle than that! All this pretty much deals with your second response, where you attempt to gloss over this by stating that is all benevolent, just in case your friend ever meets Prince Surely there are some actually worthwhile causes you could devote your time to? Regardless, you didn't exactly get what you were looking for, did you? Most of the responses here do tell of a favourable experience when meeting Prince. So, the question is, what are you going to tell your friend in preparation for that chance meeting?! [Edited 4/10/10 6:35am] Andy Fiol --------
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Mindflux said: Its all good. There was no offence to be taken, I was just working out where you were coming from and likewise meant no harm Peace back at ya Thank you Mindflux. I'm glad we're cool now. And yes, you are one intelligent person. I appreciate the feedback. I'm glad you pointed it out before I offended anyone. Thanks again. | |
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I have and he was very cool and seemed to actually care about what I said. Then the experience was ruined by fams.
No joke. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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Yes! Met him; been in videos, and watched him when he didn't know I was watching. He's really laid back around people he knows, not strangers, because you never know what a stranger wants from you. He likes to tell jokes (he did at the video shoots) and he is a workaholic/perfectionist. If things aren't going right during a gig, he will become angry because he wants to give his fans the best performance to remember.
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Mars23 said: I have and he was very cool and seemed to actually care about what I said. Then the experience was ruined by fams.
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squirrelgrease said: Mars23 said: I have and he was very cool and seemed to actually care about what I said. Then the experience was ruined by fams.
No joke. I think we will need more information. Dish. There was quiet conversation between us, then the slow realization that he was in the room followed by a screaming fam stampede. Prince dropped a few smoke capsules and disappeared. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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Mars23 said: squirrelgrease said: I think we will need more information. Dish. There was quiet conversation between us, then the slow realization that he was in the room followed by a screaming fam stampede. Prince dropped a few smoke capsules and disappeared. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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I wouldn't say I "met him," but at the second Empire show in Vegas, he came out the back door with a camera before the show and started taking pictures of the folks standing in line. Someone near me spotted him and we were all, "Hey - no pictures! " Then, he said something joke-y which I didn't really hear. As soon as folks farther back in the line realized Prince was standing out on the back stoop, a crazyass woman screamed, "I love you Priiiiince!" at the top of her lungs.
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Genesia said: I wouldn't say I "met him," but at the second Empire show in Vegas, he came out the back door with a camera before the show and started taking pictures of the folks standing in line. Someone near me spotted him and we were all, "Hey - no pictures! " Then, he said something joke-y which I didn't really hear. As soon as folks farther back in the line realized Prince was standing out on the back stoop, a crazyass woman screamed, "I love you Priiiiince!" at the top of her lungs.
His face went exactly like this --> and he ran back inside. Moment over. Your body guard should have grabbed his camera and drove away in a golf cart. And, why can't grown folks hold it together when they see a celebrity? If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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squirrelgrease said: Genesia said: I wouldn't say I "met him," but at the second Empire show in Vegas, he came out the back door with a camera before the show and started taking pictures of the folks standing in line. Someone near me spotted him and we were all, "Hey - no pictures! " Then, he said something joke-y which I didn't really hear. As soon as folks farther back in the line realized Prince was standing out on the back stoop, a crazyass woman screamed, "I love you Priiiiince!" at the top of her lungs.
His face went exactly like this --> and he ran back inside. Moment over. Your body guard should have grabbed his camera and drove away in a golf cart. And, why can't grown folks hold it together when they see a celebrity? We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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