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SomewhereHereO
nEarth

Gonna use DEAR MR. MAN in class:)

So my government teacher told us tuesday to bring a song that is politically charged on thursday and i immediatly (sp?) thought of DEAR MR. MAN (i also thought of AMERICA but i don't have that cd yet) and i was wondering if i made the right choice of choosing that song...
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Reply #1 posted 04/07/10 9:25pm

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I would say "Ronnie Talk 2 Russia" or "Sign O' The Times".
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Reply #2 posted 04/07/10 9:26pm

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good choices. just don't use any of those NPGMC era ones. their politics are a mess. confused
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Reply #3 posted 04/07/10 10:29pm

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Hell, bring in Avalanche and let the games begin.
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Reply #4 posted 04/07/10 10:34pm

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daPrettyman said:

I would say "Ronnie Talk 2 Russia" or "Sign O' The Times".

Excellent choices daPrettyman, especially "Sign O' The Times"
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Reply #5 posted 04/07/10 10:46pm

errant

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squirrelgrease said:

Hell, bring in Avalanche and let the games begin.



too bad he never released the Moors in Spain. what fun we had. good times lol
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Reply #6 posted 04/07/10 10:49pm

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errant said:

squirrelgrease said:

Hell, bring in Avalanche and let the games begin.



too bad he never released the Moors in Spain. what fun we had. good times lol


doh! I forgot about that one. Good times indeed. nod
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Reply #7 posted 04/07/10 10:51pm

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SomewhereHereOnEarth said:[quote]So my government teacher told us tuesday to bring a song that is politically charged on thursday and i immediatly (sp?) thought of DEAR MR. MAN (i also thought of AMERICA but i don't have that cd yet) and i was wondering if i made the right choice of choosing that song.


here are my picks:

Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos-Public Enemy
("I got a letter from the government the other day.."
Posin' a threat, you bet it's fuckin up the government..")

Casualties Of War-Eric B. & Rakim
(..."some'n like monopoly,a government scheme..."
..."Now i'm home on reserve and you can bet when they call, i'm goin AWOL.
'cause it ain't no way i'm goin' back to war
when i don't know who or what i'm fightin' for...")


Why Is That?-BDP ("I'm sorry....the government you have elected is inoperative.")


Higher Level-KRS-ONE

("..you can watch t.v. and give up your life tryin' to be all you can be in the army not knowing your history,you'll either fight or die or come back home in misery..""...no politician can give you peace if you trust jesus why do you vote for a beast?...."
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Reply #8 posted 04/08/10 12:13am

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SomewhereHereOnEarth said:

So my government teacher told us tuesday to bring a song that is politically charged on thursday and i immediatly (sp?) thought of DEAR MR. MAN (i also thought of AMERICA but i don't have that cd yet) and i was wondering if i made the right choice of choosing that song...


'When Will We B Paid' (IRS/MCD Remix)
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Reply #9 posted 04/08/10 1:23am

m3taverse

squirrelgrease said:

errant said:




too bad he never released the Moors in Spain. what fun we had. good times lol


doh! I forgot about that one. Good times indeed. nod


*facepalm*
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Reply #10 posted 04/08/10 1:32am

Splanknasty

No no no, not 'Dear Mr Man'.

I have many problems with the lyrics of Dear Mr Man. The biggest problem is this:

Listen, ain't no sense in voting
Same song with a different name
Might not b in the back of the bus
But it sho' feel just the same


WHAT?

You are a MULTIMILLIONAIRE. And you are telling people NOT TO VOTE?

You are telling me that a vote for Barack Obama, whose election gave pride and hope to millions of Americans (and millions of people in sub-Saharan Africa, too) is the SAME as a vote for John McCain?

Prince is a multi fucking millionaire, telling people that a vote for John McCain was the same as a vote for Barack Obama. Well, cool: but he's insulated from living with the consequences because he's been swimming in money since the age of 20.

This is irresponsible, and it is wrong.

Look at how people around the world actually like America again. Look at how America's actually LEADING the world again. And whatever your opinion on Obama's economic policy, and his healthcare policy, DO NOT TRY AND TELL ME THAT A VOTE FOR OBAMA WAS THE SAME AS A VOTE FOR McCAIN.

It is a lie, produced by a millionaire who has no idea what the effect of his words are or the consequences of people listening to him.
[Edited 4/8/10 1:34am]
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Reply #11 posted 04/08/10 1:39am

Splanknasty

Actually, you want a political song?

Funkadelic. "If You Don't Like the Effect, Don't Produce the Cause."

This is human, balanced, and a call to empower yourself to make a change. And someone should play this to Prince. Until he understands that the longer he tells people they're powerless, sitting in his first class seat, he's part of the problem he's whining about.

You say you don't like where you're at (yeah)
You can make a change
If you accept the blame

Stay in control of your reactions, yes
Will determine the effect
Of any situation

You have the power to negate
Any ulcer-causing feeling
That prohibits you to think

A situation is just that:
It has no special power
To do you harm
It's your reactions that count

If you don't like the effect
Don't produce the cause

You say you don't like what your country's about
Ain't you deep
In your semi-first class seat

You picket this and protest that
And eat yourself fat

Ain't you deep
In your semi-first class seat

If you don't like the effect
Don't produce the cause

You say you don't like what your country's about
Ain't you deep
In your semi-first class seat
You picket this and protest that
And eat yourself fat

Ain't you deep
In your semi-first class seat
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Reply #12 posted 04/08/10 1:40am

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m3taverse said:

squirrelgrease said:



doh! I forgot about that one. Good times indeed. nod


*facepalm*

lol oh man, that "poetry" room...
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #13 posted 04/08/10 1:42am

Splanknasty

OK, OK, while I'm at it... Funkadelic were radical, sometimes.

"Biological Speculation."

We're just a biological speculation
Sittin' here, vibratin'
And we don't know what we're vibratin' about

And the animal instinct in me
Makes me wanna defend me
It makes me want to live when it's time to die

Y'all see my point?
I don't mean to come on strong but I am concerned

I believe in god
Though I know that law and order must prevail
Oh, if and when the laws of man
Is not just, equal and fair
Then the laws of nature will come and do her thing

Oh, she does not think
She just rectifies
She comes and balances the book
Y'all see my point?
Y'all see my point?

We're just a biological speculation
Sittin' here, vibratin'
And we don't know what we're vibratin' about

And the animal instinct in me
It makes me wanna defend me
It makes me want to live when it's time to die

Y'all see my point?
Some of you, you might not be aware
That some of us don't eat
Some of you don't, you don't even care

Oh, if and when the system
Creates hunger and hate
Then the laws of nature will come and do her thing
Oh, yes, oh!

She does not think
She works by instinct
Survival is her thing
Do y'all see my point?
Y'all see my point?


It's like... peace and love is GREAT, and here's a kiss, but if we don't get paid within like, soon, we will let ourselves into the kitchen and help ourselves, OK? OK.
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Reply #14 posted 04/08/10 1:52am

Marrk

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'Sign O The Times' though it's not all political, it has elements within that politicians should be forced to confront. It's still really as relevant as it was in 1987, and there's a bonus too, some of the class may have actually heard it.

Or better yet, Marvin Gaye 'What's Going On' obviously.
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Reply #15 posted 04/08/10 1:57am

Dimitri10

Money Don't Matter 2 Nite

Hey now, maybe we can find a good reason
2 send a child off 2 war
So what if we're controllin' all the oil,
Is it worth a child dying 4? (is it worth it?)

[Edited 4/8/10 2:02am]
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Reply #16 posted 04/08/10 2:56am

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Why don't you plea instead....

Dreamer

And whoever said America is leading.....LOL

Anyway, try to use a lesser known song to also unearth the jewels. Avalanche.....perfect choice, unleash hell (heaven).
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Reply #17 posted 04/08/10 3:09am

Splanknasty

Dimitri10 said:

Money Don't Matter 2 Nite

Hey now, maybe we can find a good reason
2 send a child off 2 war
So what if we're controllin' all the oil,
Is it worth a child dying 4? (is it worth it?)

[Edited 4/8/10 2:02am]


Actually, can someone explain this lyric to me, while I'm at it. Seriously, I never understood it.

What's his opinion? Is he talking about American children or Iraqi children here?
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Reply #18 posted 04/08/10 4:03am

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squirrelgrease said:

errant said:




too bad he never released the Moors in Spain. what fun we had. good times lol


doh! I forgot about that one. Good times indeed. nod


"i'm sorry, that's incorrect, the card says 'moops'. the 'moops'in spain"

lol
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Reply #19 posted 04/08/10 4:26am

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IstenSzek said:

squirrelgrease said:



doh! I forgot about that one. Good times indeed. nod


"i'm sorry, that's incorrect, the card says 'moops'. the 'moops'in spain"

lol


falloff I think of that Seinfeld exchange every time I hear the word "moors".
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Reply #20 posted 04/08/10 4:31am

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squirrelgrease said:

IstenSzek said:



"i'm sorry, that's incorrect, the card says 'moops'. the 'moops'in spain"

lol


falloff I think of that Seinfeld exchange every time I hear the word "moors".


same here biggrin
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Reply #21 posted 04/08/10 5:32am

Dimitri10

Splanknasty said:

Dimitri10 said:

Money Don't Matter 2 Nite

Hey now, maybe we can find a good reason
2 send a child off 2 war
So what if we're controllin' all the oil,
Is it worth a child dying 4? (is it worth it?)

[Edited 4/8/10 2:02am]


Actually, can someone explain this lyric to me, while I'm at it. Seriously, I never understood it.

What's his opinion? Is he talking about American children or Iraqi children here?


I'm pretty sure he's referring to young American troops being sent off to war and if it's really worth them dying for oil...correct me if Im wrong.
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Reply #22 posted 04/08/10 6:33am

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Splanknasty said:

No no no, not 'Dear Mr Man'.

I have many problems with the lyrics of Dear Mr Man. The biggest problem is this:

Listen, ain't no sense in voting
Same song with a different name
Might not b in the back of the bus
But it sho' feel just the same


WHAT?

You are a MULTIMILLIONAIRE. And you are telling people NOT TO VOTE?

You are telling me that a vote for Barack Obama, whose election gave pride and hope to millions of Americans (and millions of people in sub-Saharan Africa, too) is the SAME as a vote for John McCain?

Prince is a multi fucking millionaire, telling people that a vote for John McCain was the same as a vote for Barack Obama. Well, cool: but he's insulated from living with the consequences because he's been swimming in money since the age of 20.

This is irresponsible, and it is wrong.

Look at how people around the world actually like America again. Look at how America's actually LEADING the world again. And whatever your opinion on Obama's economic policy, and his healthcare policy, DO NOT TRY AND TELL ME THAT A VOTE FOR OBAMA WAS THE SAME AS A VOTE FOR McCAIN.

It is a lie, produced by a millionaire who has no idea what the effect of his words are or the consequences of people listening to him.
[Edited 4/8/10 1:34am]



I think the point is for it to be a political song. And the person is a Prince fan so wants to use a Prince song. Doesn't mean you have to agree with the politics or that they make sense. In fact it'll probably make for a more interesting conversation to unravel and deconstruct the politics than to say "oh yeah, right on"
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Reply #23 posted 04/08/10 6:35am

funkyhead

yuk!, there's a world of far better tracks than this on the subject both old and new - Stevie - Livin' for the city [as relevant to day as it was back then], would be my choice or anything by Rage against the machine!
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Reply #24 posted 04/08/10 6:35am

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Splanknasty said:

Dimitri10 said:

Money Don't Matter 2 Nite

Hey now, maybe we can find a good reason
2 send a child off 2 war
So what if we're controllin' all the oil,
Is it worth a child dying 4? (is it worth it?)

[Edited 4/8/10 2:02am]


Actually, can someone explain this lyric to me, while I'm at it. Seriously, I never understood it.

What's his opinion? Is he talking about American children or Iraqi children here?


American children. Although, not literally children... he means the nation's children. Young American soldiers.
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Reply #25 posted 04/08/10 6:36am

funkyhead

oh and watch out that he doesn't use you for copyright infringement !!
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Reply #26 posted 04/08/10 6:41am

NuPwrSoul

Dear Mr. Man IS a protest song, but I'm not sure how political it is. It uses the language of political dissent, but only to direct the listener away from political engagement in favor of pursuing God's Kingdom.
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Reply #27 posted 04/08/10 6:43am

funkyhead

can we get this kid some proper direction, suggestions please!
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Reply #28 posted 04/08/10 6:53am

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Splanknasty said:

No no no, not 'Dear Mr Man'.

I have many problems with the lyrics of Dear Mr Man. The biggest problem is this:

Listen, ain't no sense in voting
Same song with a different name
Might not b in the back of the bus
But it sho' feel just the same


WHAT?

You are a MULTIMILLIONAIRE. And you are telling people NOT TO VOTE?

You are telling me that a vote for Barack Obama, whose election gave pride and hope to millions of Americans (and millions of people in sub-Saharan Africa, too) is the SAME as a vote for John McCain?

Prince is a multi fucking millionaire, telling people that a vote for John McCain was the same as a vote for Barack Obama. Well, cool: but he's insulated from living with the consequences because he's been swimming in money since the age of 20.

This is irresponsible, and it is wrong.

Look at how people around the world actually like America again. Look at how America's actually LEADING the world again. And whatever your opinion on Obama's economic policy, and his healthcare policy, DO NOT TRY AND TELL ME THAT A VOTE FOR OBAMA WAS THE SAME AS A VOTE FOR McCAIN.

It is a lie, produced by a millionaire who has no idea what the effect of his words are or the consequences of people listening to him.
[Edited 4/8/10 1:34am]


Prince is not saying this at all. The person that is writing this "open letter", is. Believe it or not, you have allot of people who live in the hood, that feel this way. Prince is not singing this as Prince, but as one of those people.
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Reply #29 posted 04/08/10 8:53am

NuPwrSoul

shorttrini said:

Splanknasty said:

No no no, not 'Dear Mr Man'.

I have many problems with the lyrics of Dear Mr Man. The biggest problem is this:



WHAT?

You are a MULTIMILLIONAIRE. And you are telling people NOT TO VOTE?

You are telling me that a vote for Barack Obama, whose election gave pride and hope to millions of Americans (and millions of people in sub-Saharan Africa, too) is the SAME as a vote for John McCain?

Prince is a multi fucking millionaire, telling people that a vote for John McCain was the same as a vote for Barack Obama. Well, cool: but he's insulated from living with the consequences because he's been swimming in money since the age of 20.

This is irresponsible, and it is wrong.

Look at how people around the world actually like America again. Look at how America's actually LEADING the world again. And whatever your opinion on Obama's economic policy, and his healthcare policy, DO NOT TRY AND TELL ME THAT A VOTE FOR OBAMA WAS THE SAME AS A VOTE FOR McCAIN.

It is a lie, produced by a millionaire who has no idea what the effect of his words are or the consequences of people listening to him.
[Edited 4/8/10 1:34am]


Prince is not saying this at all. The person that is writing this "open letter", is. Believe it or not, you have allot of people who live in the hood, that feel this way. Prince is not singing this as Prince, but as one of those people.


Except that Prince has gone on record (in interviews, etc.) expressing the same sentiment on his own behalf. So in that context, the song is representative of his views. And in both cases--Prince himself, or as the narrator of the song--the views espoused in the song exploit political dissatisfaction to promote political disengagement and apathy, and religious utopianism and escapism.
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