Just curious.

When I import any of the 3 discs from Lotusflow3r into my iTunes to put onto my iPod, none of the titles or track info shows up.

Anyone else have this problem? I find it weird that a CD released in 2009 wouldn't be fully set-up for modern technology.

My 1999 CD did the same thing, but no one was even thinking about iPods back in 1983. (Or 1988, whenever the CD was pressed...)

berniejobs said:

My 1999 imported with no problems, got full tracklist and artwork, not tried Lotus yet.

MikeyB71 said:

Yeah, I bought 1999 on CD a long time ago, so I assume newer pressings probably work fine.

Did you try to import Lotusflow3r yet? What happened?

I'm not really bitching, but one frustrating thing about iTunes sometimes is that when you import a CD like that and you manually go through and rename the tracks, sometimes the sequence qets mixed up.

I can never tell if I should just name the Artist or Album Artist. Also, I never know if I should click "Part of a Compilation"... Because all the songs on the album are a part of a compilation technically.

I imported all three CD's with no issues.

berniejobs said:

It has nothing to do with the specification of CD. Mechanism can be explained roughly:

1) iTunes reads particular data on CD to identify it. (In many cases it's unique to each title, but it's sometimes dupulicated between different titles and it causes mis-labeling)
2) iTunes sends query to the online database server to get information about the given disc. (That information was registered by the first person who input the data manually with his local PC and uploaded, then it can be modified later.)
3) iTunes embeds that data into files upon ripping according to the above-mentioned information gotten from the server.


I think your PC had a kind of problem with Internet connection when you ripped tha data. (e.g. lost of connection, blocked by personal firewall)

deepwater said:

iTunes reads the amount of tracks and the individual track lengths and compares that numerical data against Gracenote's library -- then it assigns the names to the CD. That is why you can sometimes - but rarely - get a false result when another CD has the exact same times/number of tracks.

berniejobs said:

You may want to click "Part of a Compilation" when you rip a CD like Graffiti Bridge.

a) when you click "Part of a Compilation"
All files will be placed in one folder named Graffiti Brige. There will be only one Graffiti Brige folder and it's in the folder named Compilation.

b) when you don't click "Part of a Compilation"
You will find five Graffiti Brige folders under folder named Prince, The Time, Tevin Campbell, George Clinton and Mavis Staples. Then, files will be placed there respectively.


Sorry if my explanation does not make sense appropriately

Yup, just imported Lotus and mplsound, no probs.

deepwater said:

Aah... that's been driving me crazy for ages, I've always just replaced their names with the main one... I knew I was doing something wrong. thanks!

Se7en said:

I didn't know the keys were length of song and the number of tracks.

Can they be exactly the same between different titles? I think iTunes is reading time in the format of minutes, sesonds and frames. Do you mean total length and not all each length for every single track?

erik319 said:

Glad to know my explanation makes sense

deepwater said:

It reads total length, number of tracks, AND length of individual tracks when retrieving Gracenote (CDDB) tag information.

Those numerical markers can sometimes be identical, but it's rare. I think I've had 2 in my whole collection . . . something random came up like The Eagles Greatest Hits or something like that.

^^ Thanks Se7en, I understand.

I have encountered many times but did not investigate the issue. Why many times for me ...

berniejobs said:

The CD shows up fine. Check your internet connection, and make sure iTunes has access the CD database for the names and titles.


or you can just type it in.

deepwater said:

but if you already have a "Prince" or "The Time" or "Mavis Staples" or whatever, the individual tracks will also appear under those artist's folders, as the album. if you click "part of a compilation". if you don't have an artist in your library already, that particular track will only show up under the "Compilations" folder.