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Thread started 03/30/10 9:05pm

errant

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Recording dates - Maginificent, The Dance and Purple House

has it been pinned down when these were recorded? all came out right at the same time in 2004 but they sound like they're possibly earlier. especially the first 2.


Magnificent sounds like it could be from the 2000-era NPGMC/High/Peace stuff. but possibly updated? but that doesn't mean anything.

The Dance has shades of Emancipation. or possibly intended for Madrid 2 Chicago?


Purple House... could be from any time, really. When was the last time he was playing it a lot prior to it being released?



oh! also, Jukebox With A Heartbeat? anyone? sound like NPS or High-era to me.


if anyone has any firm - or at least persuasive - information, please share.
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Reply #1 posted 03/30/10 9:08pm

ernestsewell

is that the same "Purple House" that's a redo of "Red House" from Jimi? If so, didn't he play that on the Rave Un2 The Year 2000 DVD? Hmmm, maybe not, but I'm pretty sure he's played it live before.
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Reply #2 posted 03/30/10 9:54pm

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ernestsewell said:

is that the same "Purple House" that's a redo of "Red House" from Jimi? If so, didn't he play that on the Rave Un2 The Year 2000 DVD? Hmmm, maybe not, but I'm pretty sure he's played it live before.


Yes he played it in Melbourne at the Palais Aftershow in 1992. A studio version is included on a Jimi Hendrix Tribute album called "The Power of Soul". Unfortunately it's one of the weaker covers in the cd, (in my opinion) due to the cheesy synth horns and a thin, overly-processed guitar sound.
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Reply #3 posted 03/31/10 1:37am

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More details can be found here: http://prince.org/msg/7/320445

SciFi is pretty thorough, so if the info is available, it's on that thread.

Pre 14 November 1998
Habibi (Machine Gun) #1 (4:58) (Jimi Hendrix) – included in Ahdio Show No.3, 20/4-2001
Purple House (3:38)* (Jimi Hendrix) – tentative placing

2001
Props‘N’Pounds (4:35)* – included in Ahdio Show No.4, 16/5-2001
Race (NPGMC Mix) (3:25) – included in Ahdio Show, June 2001
You Can Touch Me (2:12) – included in Ahdio Show, July 2001
The NPG: Contest Song (3:34) – available from NPGMC since 7/7-2001, supposedly a o(+> composition
Kip Blackshire: (Get) Her Way (3:52) – intended for Kip’s debut album due 2002, included in Ahdio Show No.6, 7/7-2001
Western Song (0:44) – included in Ahdio Show No.6, 7/7-2001
S&M Groove #2 (5:07)* (Previously “Sadomasochistic Groove”) – edit of #1, available from NPGMC since 7/7-2001
The New Power Generation: Get Wild (Miami Mix) (5:42) – available from NPGMC in August 2001, tentative placing
Instrumental (The Holy River) (3:05) – available for premium NPGMC members since 29/8-2001
Judas Smile #1 (6:40) – originally entitled “Judas Kiss” and available from NPGMC since 28/8-2001, retitled “Judas Smile” in Oct.’01
Jukebox (4:34) – included in Ahdio Show No.9, 15/11-2001
Breathe (2:01)* – available at NPGMC since 17/1-2002 (as B-Side to Madrid 2

The Chocolate Invasion and The Slaughterhouse, late 2003
Judas Smile #2 (6:33)* - has an additionnal synth hit just b4 the words "pinnochio mentality"
Supercute #2 (4:11)* - 5 seconds edit of #1
Sex Me? Sex Me Not #2 (5:41)*
Vavoom #2 (4:35)*
The Dance #1 (4:41)*
Silicon #2 (4:14)* - edit of #1
Y Should Eye Do That When Eye Can Do This? #2 (4:30)* - has an additionnal synth hit at 1:10 mn just after the sentence "u'll never know" Chicago single)

Musicology, autumn-winter 2003
Musicology (4:24)*
Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance (4:45)* - played live in Oct.’03
A Million Days (3:50)*
Life ‘O’ The Party (4:29)* - played live in Oct.’03
Call My Name (5:15)*
Cinnamon Girl (3:56)*
What Do U Want Me 2 Do? (4:15)*
The Marrying Kind (2:49)*
If Eye Was The Man In Ur Life (3:09)*
On The Couch (3:33)* - played live in Oct.’03
Dear Mr. Man (4:14)*
Reflection (3:04)* - available at NPGMC since 18/4-2003
Magnificent (4:40)* - tentative placing

2005-2006
Lolita (4:06)*
Te Amo Corazon (3:35)*
Incense And Candles (4:04)*
Love (5:45)*
Satisfied (2:50)*
Fury (4:02)*
The Word (4:11)*
Beautiful, Loved And Blessed (5:43)* (Prince/Támar)
The Dance #2 (5:20)*
Get On The Boat (6:20)*
Streets Of Panama
Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful (Excerpt) (1:27)*
The Song Of The Heart (4:35)*
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Reply #4 posted 03/31/10 8:53am

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2 out of the 4 have a "tentative placing" next to them.

and i really doubt that Prince went into the studio in late 2003 to re-work anything from Chocolate Invasion and the Slaughterhouse. I would assume that they just used alternate mixes that were laying around. which makes the placing of The Dance suspect.



in other words, I'm not satisfied with the above information lol
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Reply #5 posted 03/31/10 9:43am

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errant said:

2 out of the 4 have a "tentative placing" next to them.

and i really doubt that Prince went into the studio in late 2003 to re-work anything from Chocolate Invasion and the Slaughterhouse. I would assume that they just used alternate mixes that were laying around. which makes the placing of The Dance suspect.



in other words, I'm not satisfied with the above information lol
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I'd tend to agree with you about the TCI/TS tracks but no one knows. The information above is just the best information available. For more details you'll have to ask Prince himself or wait until an engineer or musician talks to Per Nielsen about it ^^
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Reply #6 posted 03/31/10 9:49am

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databank said:

errant said:

2 out of the 4 have a "tentative placing" next to them.

and i really doubt that Prince went into the studio in late 2003 to re-work anything from Chocolate Invasion and the Slaughterhouse. I would assume that they just used alternate mixes that were laying around. which makes the placing of The Dance suspect.



in other words, I'm not satisfied with the above information lol
[Edited 3/31/10 8:54am]


I'd tend to agree with you about the TCI/TS tracks but no one knows. The information above is just the best information available. For more details you'll have to ask Prince himself or wait until an engineer or musician talks to Per Nielsen about it ^^
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yeahthat

No insiders are giving up details openly anymore. We saw what happened when that engineer recently tweeted that he was laying down tracks with Prince for what may be the new album. The thread is gone and the engineer is most likely gone.
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Reply #7 posted 03/31/10 11:45am

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squirrelgrease said:



No insiders are giving up details openly anymore. We saw what happened when that engineer recently tweeted that he was laying down tracks with Prince for what may be the new album. The thread is gone and the engineer is most likely gone.


where, when, what was that?
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Reply #8 posted 03/31/10 11:49am

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magnificent, to me, sounds different from the npgmc material of 2000-2001.
i've always thought this was a track he finished after "musicology" went
to the presses. imo it's certainly good enough to replace lame tracks on
that album such as "life of the party".

"the dance" does indeed sound very 1995/1996-ish. it's absolutely from
the same mold as "goodbye" and "journey 2 the center of ur heart" and a
lot of the slow songs on disc 2 of Emancipation.

"purple house" is most likely from before Rave. didn't he talk about an
all hendrix tune cover album at that time. even saying he donated a track
to the hendrix estate, including the mastertape, for them to do with as
they pleased? but iirc that was rumored to be a cover of "machinegun".
but it could perhaps have been "purple house"? since machinegun turned up
on the npgmc.

"jukebox with a heartbeat" sounds exactly like stuff from the 2000 npgmc.
things like "props n pounds" could have shared A/Bsides on a single with
this song.
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Reply #9 posted 03/31/10 2:34pm

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ufoclub said:

squirrelgrease said:



No insiders are giving up details openly anymore. We saw what happened when that engineer recently tweeted that he was laying down tracks with Prince for what may be the new album. The thread is gone and the engineer is most likely gone.


where, when, what was that?


I'll PM you the cached link (it's not all there, so it may not make a lot of sense). The thread was deleted so as to not call further attention to Fluff Harley's tweets. He sort of spilled the beans that Prince was in the studio on a hand full of tweets and caught holy hell from Purps.
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Reply #10 posted 03/31/10 2:46pm

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IstenSzek said:

magnificent, to me, sounds different from the npgmc material of 2000-2001.
i've always thought this was a track he finished after "musicology" went
to the presses. imo it's certainly good enough to replace lame tracks on
that album such as "life of the party".

"the dance" does indeed sound very 1995/1996-ish. it's absolutely from
the same mold as "goodbye" and "journey 2 the center of ur heart" and a
lot of the slow songs on disc 2 of Emancipation.

"purple house" is most likely from before Rave. didn't he talk about an
all hendrix tune cover album at that time.
even saying he donated a track
to the hendrix estate, including the mastertape, for them to do with as
they pleased? but iirc that was rumored to be a cover of "machinegun".
but it could perhaps have been "purple house"? since machinegun turned up
on the npgmc.

"jukebox with a heartbeat" sounds exactly like stuff from the 2000 npgmc.
things like "props n pounds" could have shared A/Bsides on a single with
this song.


Prince did say that he wanted to do some Hendrix tunes. Also, Janie Hendrx confirmed the fact that Prince intended at one time to do a whole Jimi album.

http://www.celebrityacces...tml?id=495

Have there been many covers? It’s hard to beat a Jimi Hendrix performance.

Yeah, but John Mayer does Jimi. Sheryl Crow has recorded Jimi. Paul McCartney and, obviously Bob Dylan and Eric Clapton have recorded his songs. There’s been Robert Randolph (and the Family Band). There was a tribute album (“Stone Free: A Tribute to Jimi Hendrix” in 1993). Prince wanted to do a full album on Jimi.
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Reply #11 posted 04/01/10 6:25pm

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Red House blues can't be recorded before 2004 or 20003.
also Purple house features whammy bar
he didn't usse whammy before 2000
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