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Reply #30 posted 04/01/10 9:47am

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ufoclub said:



Yeah but did that Delia Derbyshire comp ended up on some kind of stock music compilation?


there's something new of hers out any time now (well not new obviously)


IT'S NOT DELIA DELBYSHIRE!!! It's Roger Limb, another english electronic composerfrom the same era and for some reason it ended up being credited to Delia on the bootleg that "revealed" it to us.

And the CD Prince used was a sounds-databank CD anyone could purchase and use without paying additionnal fees or having to credit anyone. It's possible that Limb wasn't even credited on this CD for all we know.
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Reply #31 posted 04/01/10 12:57pm

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This music still being on the site (and the site having become an odd piece of contemporary/conceptual art), i realize how much i loved this little ambient loop from day one.

This kind of weird but clever experimental things is EXACTLY what I'd love Prince to do next!!!


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Reply #32 posted 04/01/10 1:31pm

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databank said:

erik319 said:



there's something new of hers out any time now (well not new obviously)


IT'S NOT DELIA DELBYSHIRE!!! It's Roger Limb, another english electronic composerfrom the same era and for some reason it ended up being credited to Delia on the bootleg that "revealed" it to us.

And the CD Prince used was a sounds-databank CD anyone could purchase and use without paying additionnal fees or having to credit anyone. It's possible that Limb wasn't even credited on this CD for all we know.


I was about to say this.

We discussed this topic to death when that "WOW" bootleg came out, as it had the track on it - wrongly labelled as being by Delia Derbyshire.
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Reply #33 posted 04/01/10 1:33pm

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As for "Ambient Loop", i kinda like it in a weird way. It reminds me of being up at some stupid time in the morning registering for the site and watching it load for the first time and wondering what was there.

Ahhhhh good times.
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Reply #34 posted 04/01/10 1:46pm

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Thanks databank and Disciple for the info.

I seem to have missed that discussion.

I remember from the HQ days that someone posted the 'discovery' and linked to a place where you could grab the file (long before it was included on Wow!) and it was credited to Derbyshire.

Not into incidental music, so I knew nothing about Derbyshire or Limb.

Regarding Prince's use of it, even if it's 'available-for-whomever' music I think we're not discussing birds chirping or water rushing from some 'sound efects' cd. It's a piece of music and I think Prince -who's always boasting about his originality and anal about credits- shouldn't have used it for the intro of a song and album.
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Reply #35 posted 04/01/10 4:17pm

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databank said:

This music still being on the site (and the site having become an odd piece of contemporary/conceptual art), i realize how much i loved this little ambiant loop from day one.

This kind of weird but clever experimental things is EXACTLY what i'd love Prince to do next!!!


Ambiant music is not clever or experimental.....it is shit!

He should play Environmental records. Suppose to make u horny, just makes me wanna go to the bathroom.
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Reply #36 posted 04/01/10 5:07pm

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vitriol said:

Thanks databank and Disciple for the info.

I seem to have missed that discussion.

I remember from the HQ days that someone posted the 'discovery' and linked to a place where you could grab the file (long before it was included on Wow!) and it was credited to Derbyshire.

Not into incidental music, so I knew nothing about Derbyshire or Limb.

Regarding Prince's use of it, even if it's 'available-for-whomever' music I think we're not discussing birds chirping or water rushing from some 'sound efects' cd. It's a piece of music and I think Prince -who's always boasting about his originality and anal about credits- shouldn't have used it for the intro of a song and album.


Its an ambient noise and effects, used to support some poetry - it was licenced for use in other peoplems compositions.....what the hell is the problem? Musicians use a massive resource for sounds - why should sounds other people have created be precluded? that's ludicrous. should we extend the logic and say "hey, you didn't invent the piano, so you can't use it's sounds!" lol

Its just as crazy as your suggestion. Did Prince use this supposed music as a melody? Did he base the song Eye Know around the piece? No! After the poetry intro, ita an entirely original and inventive song. So, what is your problem? Why on earth would you get your knickers in such a twist about this?
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Reply #37 posted 04/01/10 5:29pm

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Mindflux said:

vitriol said:

Thanks databank and Disciple for the info.

I seem to have missed that discussion.

I remember from the HQ days that someone posted the 'discovery' and linked to a place where you could grab the file (long before it was included on Wow!) and it was credited to Derbyshire.

Not into incidental music, so I knew nothing about Derbyshire or Limb.

Regarding Prince's use of it, even if it's 'available-for-whomever' music I think we're not discussing birds chirping or water rushing from some 'sound efects' cd. It's a piece of music and I think Prince -who's always boasting about his originality and anal about credits- shouldn't have used it for the intro of a song and album.


Its all part of his little Piped Piper deception.. to keep you coming back for more

Its an ambient noise and effects, used to support some poetry - it was licenced for use in other peoplems compositions.....what the hell is the problem? Musicians use a massive resource for sounds - why should sounds other people have created be precluded? that's ludicrous. should we extend the logic and say "hey, you didn't invent the piano, so you can't use it's sounds!" lol

Its just as crazy as your suggestion. Did Prince use this supposed music as a melody? Did he base the song Eye Know around the piece? No! After the poetry intro, ita an entirely original and inventive song. So, what is your problem? Why on earth would you get your knickers in such a twist about this?

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Reply #38 posted 04/01/10 6:18pm

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erik319 said:

I'm holding out for a CD of whale sounds or maybe panpipes.

:fingers crossed:


If Prince released an entire album of breaking wind and long belches I would be down front to sign up and buy the CD. No questions asked.
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Reply #39 posted 04/01/10 6:32pm

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As for "Ambient Loop", i kinda like it in a weird way. It reminds me of being up at some stupid time in the morning registering for the site and watching it load for the first time and wondering what was there.

Ahhhhh good times.

I'm just glad someone else knows how to spell "ambient".
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Reply #40 posted 04/01/10 7:14pm

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ernestsewell said:

Militant said:

As for "Ambient Loop", i kinda like it in a weird way. It reminds me of being up at some stupid time in the morning registering for the site and watching it load for the first time and wondering what was there.

Ahhhhh good times.

I'm just glad someone else knows how to spell "ambient".


I was the best speller in my primary school. Sadly we in the UK don't have any sort of spelling bee competitions like you guys, so I had no opportunity to kick any ass. sad
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Reply #41 posted 04/01/10 7:43pm

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Militant said:

ernestsewell said:


I'm just glad someone else knows how to spell "ambient".


I was the best speller in my primary school. Sadly we in the UK don't have any sort of spelling bee competitions like you guys, so I had no opportunity to kick any ass. sad

I was in a spelling bee in 5th grade. I enjoyed it.
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Reply #42 posted 04/01/10 9:32pm

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The sound is from the Motif keyboard/rack. I have the rack and was going through sounds one day and came across it... no alterations at all... someone just pressed one key for a long time and there you have it.... wink
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Reply #43 posted 04/01/10 11:08pm

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Militant said:

As for "Ambient Loop", i kinda like it in a weird way. It reminds me of being up at some stupid time in the morning registering for the site and watching it load for the first time and wondering what was there.

Ahhhhh good times.

lol I hear ya on that!
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Reply #44 posted 04/02/10 12:19am

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Mindflux said:

vitriol said:

Thanks databank and Disciple for the info.

I seem to have missed that discussion.

I remember from the HQ days that someone posted the 'discovery' and linked to a place where you could grab the file (long before it was included on Wow!) and it was credited to Derbyshire.

Not into incidental music, so I knew nothing about Derbyshire or Limb.

Regarding Prince's use of it, even if it's 'available-for-whomever' music I think we're not discussing birds chirping or water rushing from some 'sound efects' cd. It's a piece of music and I think Prince -who's always boasting about his originality and anal about credits- shouldn't have used it for the intro of a song and album.


Its an ambient noise and effects, used to support some poetry - it was licenced for use in other peoplems compositions.....what the hell is the problem? Musicians use a massive resource for sounds - why should sounds other people have created be precluded? that's ludicrous. should we extend the logic and say "hey, you didn't invent the piano, so you can't use it's sounds!" lol

Its just as crazy as your suggestion. Did Prince use this supposed music as a melody? Did he base the song Eye Know around the piece? No! After the poetry intro, ita an entirely original and inventive song. So, what is your problem? Why on earth would you get your knickers in such a twist about this?


Can I be a bit pedantic here and mention "the Ball". smile
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Reply #45 posted 04/02/10 3:57am

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Mindflux said:

vitriol said:

Thanks databank and Disciple for the info.

I seem to have missed that discussion.

I remember from the HQ days that someone posted the 'discovery' and linked to a place where you could grab the file (long before it was included on Wow!) and it was credited to Derbyshire.

Not into incidental music, so I knew nothing about Derbyshire or Limb.

Regarding Prince's use of it, even if it's 'available-for-whomever' music I think we're not discussing birds chirping or water rushing from some 'sound efects' cd. It's a piece of music and I think Prince -who's always boasting about his originality and anal about credits- shouldn't have used it for the intro of a song and album.


Its an ambient noise and effects, used to support some poetry - it was licenced for use in other peoplems compositions.....what the hell is the problem? Musicians use a massive resource for sounds - why should sounds other people have created be precluded? that's ludicrous. should we extend the logic and say "hey, you didn't invent the piano, so you can't use it's sounds!" lol

Its just as crazy as your suggestion. Did Prince use this supposed music as a melody? Did he base the song Eye Know around the piece? No! After the poetry intro, ita an entirely original and inventive song. So, what is your problem? Why on earth would you get your knickers in such a twist about this?


Well, if you weren't going to contribute with an answer to what I was asking, I wonder why you didn't save everybody your empty dissent.
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Reply #46 posted 04/02/10 9:04am

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loveu2the9ss said:

The sound is from the Motif keyboard/rack. I have the rack and was going through sounds one day and came across it... no alterations at all... someone just pressed one key for a long time and there you have it.... wink


I think we have a winner. clapping
It's NOT a Prince composition.
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Reply #47 posted 04/02/10 10:10am

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dannyd5050 said:

loveu2the9ss said:

The sound is from the Motif keyboard/rack. I have the rack and was going through sounds one day and came across it... no alterations at all... someone just pressed one key for a long time and there you have it.... wink


I think we have a winner. clapping
It's NOT a Prince composition.


eek

Ok, good to know...

I'd like him to do that kinda music anyway lol
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Reply #48 posted 04/02/10 7:11pm

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vitriol said:

Mindflux said:



Its an ambient noise and effects, used to support some poetry - it was licenced for use in other peoplems compositions.....what the hell is the problem? Musicians use a massive resource for sounds - why should sounds other people have created be precluded? that's ludicrous. should we extend the logic and say "hey, you didn't invent the piano, so you can't use it's sounds!" lol

Its just as crazy as your suggestion. Did Prince use this supposed music as a melody? Did he base the song Eye Know around the piece? No! After the poetry intro, ita an entirely original and inventive song. So, what is your problem? Why on earth would you get your knickers in such a twist about this?


Well, if you weren't going to contribute with an answer to what I was asking, I wonder why you didn't save everybody your empty dissent.


You mean there was a question in all that? Silly me, how did I miss that? Perhaps, because there isn't one? Unless you'd like to point it out?

All you've done is make senseless statements regarding the use of a stock sound - one that didn't require crediting, despite your insistance and you didn't even credit it to the right person anyway. You do know that SOTT (single) was made using stock sounds? (not someone playing a stock sound from a keyboard like Eye No, but still straight preset sounds from the synth - which is, in effect, the same thing). Are you going to lambast that for supposed "unoriginality"? Start talking sense and you may get the answers you are looking for.
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Reply #49 posted 04/02/10 7:13pm

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dannyd5050 said:

loveu2the9ss said:

The sound is from the Motif keyboard/rack. I have the rack and was going through sounds one day and came across it... no alterations at all... someone just pressed one key for a long time and there you have it.... wink


I think we have a winner. clapping
It's NOT a Prince composition.


No - its a sound on a keyboard. And a sound on a keyboard is not a compostion. A composition is an arrangement of sounds in a musical order. So, what's your point?
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Reply #50 posted 04/02/10 7:21pm

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Mindflux said:

dannyd5050 said:



I think we have a winner. clapping
It's NOT a Prince composition.


No - its a sound on a keyboard. And a sound on a keyboard is not a compostion. A composition is an arrangement of sounds in a musical order. So, what's your point?


My point if anyone thinks that Prince produced this "sound" then they're wrong, smart ass.
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Reply #51 posted 04/02/10 7:24pm

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Mindflux said:



No - its a sound on a keyboard. And a sound on a keyboard is not a compostion. A composition is an arrangement of sounds in a musical order. So, what's your point?


My point if anyone thinks that Prince produced this "sound" then they're wrong, smart ass.


Likewise he didn't "produce" the sound of a trumpet. Again, what's your point?

You know, there are some sounds (prob about 25%) in the music I produce that I didn't invent!! Shock horror - is this something I should be concerned about?! Are Prince and I in some abominable league - the one that flouts those written laws that state that music shall only be made with entirely original sounds of your own making? razz
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Reply #52 posted 04/02/10 7:28pm

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Oh, and you know that sound at 3:06 in to Days of Wild? Do you think Prince made that one? lol
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Reply #53 posted 04/02/10 7:29pm

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Mindflux said:

dannyd5050 said:



My point if anyone thinks that Prince produced this "sound" then they're wrong, smart ass.


Likewise he didn't "produce" the sound of a trumpet. Again, what's your point?


My POINT IS Prince did not CREATE this AMBIENT NOISE!! Some people think he did. It's a freakin' keyboard sound!
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Reply #54 posted 04/02/10 7:47pm

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dannyd5050 said:

Mindflux said:



Likewise he didn't "produce" the sound of a trumpet. Again, what's your point?


My POINT IS Prince did not CREATE this AMBIENT NOISE!! Some people think he did. It's a freakin' keyboard sound!


You mean just like what I said to you earlier when you said it wasn't a prince composition? why are you repeating back to me what I said to you?

you seem a little confused. there there - its ok.....its just a keyboard sound (which, in case you missed it, is MY point - in that, what are you getting so worked up about who "invented" the sound.....how is it at all relevant?)
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Reply #55 posted 04/02/10 10:25pm

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Mindflux said:

dannyd5050 said:



My POINT IS Prince did not CREATE this AMBIENT NOISE!! Some people think he did. It's a freakin' keyboard sound!


You mean just like what I said to you earlier when you said it wasn't a prince composition? why are you repeating back to me what I said to you?

you seem a little confused. there there - its ok.....its just a keyboard sound (which, in case you missed it, is MY point - in that, what are you getting so worked up about who "invented" the sound.....how is it at all relevant?)


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