Wow, just wow. I just saw how bad the front news page looks for Prince and realised the news hasn't been so bad in a very long time, maybe never before. But I do not feel sorry for him. Not at all.

First, after partying it up on New Year's Eve with these wonderful people in that wonderful, godly town of Las Vegas, he excels himself like never before, by releasing an amazing new fight song for the Minnesota Vikings, called "Purple and Gold", which songs deserves to be praised for that title alone. Nothing better than such an energetic, egostroking march to pump himself up while he faces the music in an Irish court.

No big deal really, just a € 1.5 million lawsuit that he was slapped with over cancelling a concert for 50.000 fans just 10 days prior. After a week of revealing testimonies from Prince's management, but a deafening silence from Prince himself, he settled the case, making sure the plaintiff left court as one "very chilled cat".

Nothing inspires an artist like Prince more than a funky lawsuit, so to the fans great delight, Prince released another gem, perhabs one of his best songs in years, decades even, called "Cause and Effect", an incredibly deep and honest reflection of Prince's most inner thoughts about himself, his god and his universe.

This inspired and unique masterpiece of funk-pop-rock crossover was quickly followed by a smashing defeat in court over a video on Youtube of a baby dancing to his golden oldie hit "Let's Go Crazy". That cute video of her little toddler having fun made his mother so proud that she decided to take it all the way to court, when it was shamelessly and mercilessly removed by one of those evil music conglomerates. You know one of those blood sucking corporations that his Royal Badness hates so much, yet also hires to vigorously 'protect' his invaluable intellectual property assets.

Every fan that has any clue how Prince operates, was already anticipating yet another mindblowing new song by then. When even the courts okay the theft of his songs, the man must be steaming and rolling in the studio! "To all the babies on the internet, no more candy for you!"

But no, there is no time to funk around, because there is still more important court cases to attend! Some shady business with a perfume company to be exact, that a judge decided will all be dealt with in court soon, promising us a true revelation of the more smellier side of Prince's business affairs.

Naturally, all this made the loyal Lotusflower members nervous. After all, year 1 was quickly nearing its final days, lawsuits were being filed as fast as Obama is spending money, so will he now at least release 3 new songs?! Maybe even an whole album?! At least one song then!! Members didn't pay 77$ for a year of silence, streaming vids and an album they can now buy in stores for 4.99 did they? And by the way, did you get your T-shirt yet?!

Obviously however, that Purple Universe called Lotusflow3r.com could not have gone out in any other way than with a big bang or better yet perhabs, getting sucked into a black hole, the cause of which now, seems to be mainly sheer incompetence and disinterest.

Yes, Prince manages to get himself in even more trouble. Not only does he fail to pay his 250K in property taxes, which is something that can be easily managed still for a rich man like him, but he also fails, yet again, to treat his paying customers, his fans, his basic bread and butter, properly and correctly. For the umpteenth time and this time really, really bad.

What happened??!! Well, despite many members cancelling their subscription, they STILL got their cards automatically charged 77$ for another year of.... Of what exactly? Well, in any case of a year that began with an apology and a promise of a refund. Not by Prince tho', but by his 'support' team of whomever that may be that, just to make things even more better, further blames it on the payment gateway company.

"Cause and Effect" indeed.

I am not saying all this happened because of New Year's Eve. Rather I am saying that it's his karma coming back at him, but the funny thing is that all the bad news of late starts with that shameless act of disrespect of his religion. Because really, when he calls himself a Jehova's Witness, but celebrates NEW YEAR'S EVE with 50 cents and the Black Eyed Pees out of all people and in Las Vegas out of all places, I do think he asks for an "effect" that can be nothing but bad.


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Karma is indeed a motherfucker.

Vendetta1 said:

I swear I think he deserves it.
And if he doesn't watch out he'll have a class action law suit from his fans coming his way too.
Gawd... he would become notoriously infamous for that

Tremolina said:

I honestly don't think he cares.

Vendetta1 said:

Sure he does. He shows it with his songs. If he wouldn't care he wouldnt write about it.

Sorry, but I have to post this. You said Black Eyed Pees.

squirrelgrease said:

Aww man, that's just EVIl!

Im still lmao, those pants, If I dont watch out i start peeing my own....
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Tremolina said:

Maybe that's what he wants tho'. Sure looks like it.

Prince and 50 Cents???? please tell it did not happen....

thedance said:

Read the news. In Las Vegas of all places.

I really think he deserves it.

Vendetta1 said:

I think we call that the "karma boomerang" here in Princeland. he said so.

Tremolina said:

My photo was funnier before you changed the thread title.

squirrelgrease said:

I know but I still say it at the end of my post

1 - You don't know that Prince is still a JW

2 - Even if he is, it's his own damn business. I'm pretty sure "Christians" commit crimes like murder on a daily basis when it's supposed to be something you don't do. It's only the minority of people that follow their religion down to every last letter, and those people are crazy as hell anyway. So he celebrated an occasion when hardcore JW's don't do that. BIG FUCKING DEAL. In case you forgot, he sang about anal sex just a couple of years ago on "Turn Me Loose, too.

3. There's nothing wrong with 50 Cent or the Black Eyed Peas. Will.I.Am is a good friend of Prince and appeared on stage with him at the BET Awards, 3121 Vegas and at the London residency. He's also one hell of a songwriter and producer. 50 Cent might not be everyone's cup of tea, but if Prince wants to hang out with him, that's HIS choice. I'm actually quite disgusted that you think it's "bad karma" for Prince to hang out with fellow platinum-selling artists just because YOU don't like them.

4. Sure, Prince has made some bad decisions, but they were just business decisions and oversights. Those are the only things he is reaping the seeds of right now, nothing more.

Prince could hang out with Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Tiger Woods, Jenna Jameson, Ron Jeremy, Slipknot, Marilyn Manson and have a massive orgy with all of the girls in the playboy mansion while praising Satan for all I care. It's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and it wouldn't have the slightest effect on his "karma".

Militant said:

I agree totally with Militant...Tremolina, stop acting like Prince has harmed us/you in any way...your totally crucifying the man...gett off his ass already...Im not a fan of 50cent or BEP, but this is a grown man were talking about..Tremolina, stop being part of the problems..try being part of any solutions. The energy off your dissertation was so negative. I gotta go wash my eyes now.

lotusboy said:

Calm down junior

lotusboy said:

What do you mean that I am acting like he has "harmed us"? Certainly not me in any case. I am simply commenting, albeit sarcastically, on the incredible amount of bad news that followed new years eve and now you are trying to tell me to shut it? Wow, please sue me for telling it just like it is and excercising my right to free speech!

Try being part of the solution? I make you a bet, that 90% of the fans will agree with me that it's people like YOU, people who constantly attack fans that are simply speaking the truth, who instantly forgive and defend Prince for every shitty thing he does, who forever worship the ground he walks on no matter how many bitter c&d letter or lawsuit he files against fans and who praise every shitty tune he pops out, no matter how crappy it really is, that are part of the problem. It's because of people like you that Prince treats his fans like shit, overcharges them, breaks his promises to them. it's because of fans like you that he feels like he has to answer to nobody, that he is untouchable and can do whatever he pleases, no matter the consequences. It's because people like you always bend over to, yet again, take it like a good fam.

Really, this is nothing personal, but please take a look in the mirror and ask yourself who is really part of the problem why fans are being duped time and time again... it's post like yours that keep this pathetic state of affairs just the way it is. But you go ahead man, IGNORE 2 months of hard evidence that he is a BAD JW, a BAD businesman and a BAD artist and attack those fans who just point out it to you. It only makes you look like a fool.


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Militant said:

FYI: ANY hypocrite religious person gets it from me. I don't have ANY problem with him being a JW (yes he still is, geez lol), but I despise any person that say they own the truth, preaches it wherever they can, uses their influence on the weakminded (and there is a lot of weak minded prince fans out there!) and make them feel bad and insecure of their own religion, when such a motherfucker himself cannot even abide by his own rules.

Oh yeah, I already forgot, you don't care about that, because surely there are "christians" that kill people and he sang about "anal sex" just a couple of years ago.



I would urge you to take a class in how to read properly and how to stay calm, especially when it's nothing personal against you.

I clearly said I do not think all this happened because of new year's eve.
Go back and read again.

50 cents okay? You miss the point. JW's are not suppose to celebrate new year's eve and they are not supposed to be involved with "worldly" people and affairs. And we ALL know that Las Vegas, the black eyed peas and 50cents are pretty damn "worldy", now don't we?! But yeah, it's still "cool" then to tell people that they don't live by the "word"

Oh yeah, I already forgot, you don't care about that, because surely there are "christians" that kill people and he sang about "anal sex" just a couple of years ago.




"some bad decisions". Understatement of the year. And there we go again with that pathetic "rebuke" of "it's none of your business". It's none of your business to crap on my post with your bullshit. How about that? This site was created for fans to comment on and talk about stuff like this. It was not created so fans like you and lotusboy can tell other fans to shut the hell up about prince when you don't like it. If YOU don't like that, because you are too immature to separate your feelings from the music from the man, then YOU can leave.

Thank you.

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I think you need to check yourself if you HONESTLY believe that Prince is making anyone feel bad about their religion. It's nobody else's business.



What point are you trying to make here?




LMFAO. I think you need to read MY post again. I read your post perfectly, now you're just talking shit because you are unable to formulate a good response. I'm not angry at all, I just think your initial post was moronic.



Who are you to tell Prince how to live his life or how to represent HIS faith? And furthermore why do you care? He could be the world's worst JW for all I care - it makes no difference to the quality of the music. In fact, if you ask me, the further he walks from any religion, the better.



Again.....your point? Prince can and will do whatever the fuck he likes and it's very pompous of you to judge him.




This site was created to discuss the music of an artist, not to make ridiculous judgement on his faith and things that have fuck-all to do with YOU.

As for leaving - how about this, let's take a poll. Since you like to judge so much, let's let the other orgers judge which one of us they would prefer to leave. How about that?
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Militant said:

Nonsense. What kind of joke is this? There have been thousands of topics in here that have nothing to do with his music. What about the the kind of fam that drools over his pictures, that talks about his personal affairs with his wifes etc? Do you agree with THAT?

Or do you go to those threads and cuss those people out as well? sheesh, you should apply for internet censor in china


Sure go ahead, I am confident when you are being so "militant".

By the way, did you know its against forum rules to jack a thread and personally attack other members?

If you don't like this thread, then LEAVE.


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well, according to JW statute 7.6.3121, his head pops off at promptly at 12:01am and the ground opens up beneath him as a trapdoor straight to hades

Tremolina said:

There's a difference between having rational debates about issues, compared to what you did, which was accuse Prince of being a "bad person" or getting "bad karma" simply for hanging out with other artists just because you don't like them. Would you prefer him to only ever hang out with Larry G or something?

Tremolina said:

Hehe, no way in hell you'd win that poll. I am a beloved and valued orger....not too sure anybody knows who you are.

I never personally attacked you either, I just pointed out that your original post was stupid.

For the record, nobody will take you seriously when you can't even type a persons name properly. Spell it out with me - 5-0 C-E-N-T. Not cents.
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Prince does try to make others feel bad about their religion to the point of passing out religious tracts saying every faith except the JW faith is false. When he does such a thing it becomes our business.

If you say you follow the tenets of a faith and do some of the exact opposite, people will call you out on it.

Tremolina is a friend of mine but even if he were not, I would still agree with pretty much everything he said. There is no one here that does not make comments about other celebrities whether it is our business or not and Prince is not immune. He himslef has made snarky comments about other celebrities lives that were none of his business, too.

Why people take criticism of Prince so personally is beyond me.

Prince could get reprimanded. If this is true.

What is more likely is that he'll be reprimanded for not paying his taxes and causing all this bad press. It doesn't reflect well on Jehovah's Witnesses. They are very keen not to shame Jehovah's name in anyway.

I have some experience with JW's so what I have written above is not total shit. It is speculation, but based on experience (one in particular in my area involving a news report, which I won't go into here).

Regardless, Prince is quite aware of these consequences. He is an adult and responsible for his own choices. Just as we all are.

OperatingThetan said:

I'm not real familiar with the Jehovah's Witness ways, but will caning be involved?

squirrelgrease said:

Now that's funny....but the rest of this thread is Sh*t....

Can't some ex housequakers make up a i hate prince website .... that would clear alot of space on this forum...

squirrelgrease said:

OperatingThetan said:

LondonStyle said:

I have the same message for you. I have not cussed at Prince, nor have I called him a crook, a thief or whatever degrading term. What I have done is stay civilised and point out the facts and express my amazement and sarcasm about it.

That's not "hating".

You, coming in here with a message that this thread is crap tho' is neither positive, nor constructive. Rather it is "hating". And hating by a fam.

We all know who you are and how personal you all take it when somebody critiques Prince. I can understand that when the critique makes no sense at all or is totally unreasonable.

But you cannot accuse me of that. Because my critique is based on cold hard facts you can read on the front page. You however are the guilty one.

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