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Thread started 04/17/10 9:16pm

thebanishedone

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Prince using old songs for new albums

Most of the Lotus Flow3r album was recorded during 3121
sessions in 2006.
Prince uses old songs from vault most of the time .
What about the new songs,songs recorded
not much before album release.
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Reply #1 posted 04/17/10 10:41pm

errant

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i wouldn't consider stuff recorded during the 3121 sessions and used as the foundation for an album a few years later as "old" or "vault" material.

do we have any indication that they were even fully formed songs at the point they were recorded? he's historically gone back and reworked rehearsals and jam sessions into songs, even years later. but unless he's specifically aiming the project as an "odds & ends" album, i don't think we really have any justification for calling such recent material stuff from the vault.
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Reply #2 posted 04/18/10 1:09am

lotusflw3r

I'd think out of all his later albums, Lotusflow3r was the most like a traditionally recorded album he's done. Pretty much all the songs were recorded in a short space of time with the same band - obviously it takes awhile from recording to release and he had 3121/Planet Earth to get out first.

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Reply #3 posted 04/18/10 1:09am

zobilamouche

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thebanishedone said:

Most of the Lotus Flow3r album was recorded during 3121
sessions in 2006.
Prince uses old songs from vault most of the time .
What about the new songs,songs recorded
not much before album release.


It's not that odd. Painters and illustrators would be sketching stuff that's non-related to a specific assignment but will keep it because it looks good and might be used later on.

So if he makes some stuff that he likes but doesn't see fit to use in a current project, he probably leaves it in the vault until he thinks it might be the time to dig it up and do something with it.
[Edited 4/18/10 1:58am]
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Reply #4 posted 04/18/10 7:09am

ernestsewell

thebanishedone said:

Most of the Lotus Flow3r album was recorded during 3121
sessions in 2006.
Prince uses old songs from vault most of the time .
What about the new songs,songs recorded
not much before album release.

Where do you get your information? Most of what you said is way off base.

Prince doesn't use songs from the vault "most of the time" or hardly at all.

Who said "most" of Lotus was recorded in 2006?

And what about new songs? I don't understand if there's supposed to be a question here, or you're making a comment.
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Reply #5 posted 04/18/10 7:12am

RumAndRaisin

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ernestsewell said:

thebanishedone said:

Most of the Lotus Flow3r album was recorded during 3121
sessions in 2006.
Prince uses old songs from vault most of the time .
What about the new songs,songs recorded
not much before album release.

Where do you get your information? Most of what you said is way off base.

Prince doesn't use songs from the vault "most of the time" or hardly at all.

Who said "most" of Lotus was recorded in 2006?

And what about new songs? I don't understand if there's supposed to be a question here, or you're making a comment.

The Michael B / Sonny T tracks on Lotusflow4r were recorded in the 3121 sessions in 2005, the rest recorded around 2006/7
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Reply #6 posted 04/18/10 8:28am

thebanishedone

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Ernest Michael Bland told me that info,so it's hard to say
that what i'm talking is off base.
Former Prince's drummer Michael Bland is on Prince.org
Other former Prince band members i had more then a few conversations are
Andre Cymone,Dez Dickerson,Brown Mark,
Lisa Coleman,Rhonda Smith,Matt Fink and John Blackwell

So the facts i know are hardly off base cool
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Reply #7 posted 04/18/10 9:38am

ernestsewell

And how many Michael B/Sonny tracks are on 3121 in ratio to the non-NPGesque tracks?

What's old? Six weeks? Six months? A year? Two years?

SOTT could be considered old considering how many incarnations it went through and how long it took to get that record out as we know it. Hell, it had a Revolution track on it, and Wendy, Lisa, and Susannah as well. That stuff must have been "old" too, huh?
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Reply #8 posted 04/18/10 12:00pm

kenkamken

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Lotus Flow3r sounds like it's of a whole, not like separate tracks slapped together. MPLS Sound kind of feels like a collection rather than an album. If these were recorded a few years ago, it makes me wonder how many other albums he could have waiting to be released... or not released.
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Reply #9 posted 04/18/10 4:51pm

RumAndRaisin

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ernestsewell said:

And how many Michael B/Sonny tracks are on 3121 in ratio to the non-NPGesque tracks?

What's old? Six weeks? Six months? A year? Two years?

SOTT could be considered old considering how many incarnations it went through and how long it took to get that record out as we know it. Hell, it had a Revolution track on it, and Wendy, Lisa, and Susannah as well. That stuff must have been "old" too, huh?

there's only one on 3121, the title track. that was part of a 10 track session which formed that song, stuff like guitar and planet earth. then in 2006 they re grouped for another session where the lotus flow3r stuff was recorded
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Reply #10 posted 04/18/10 7:20pm

billymeade

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The original post is confusing because it's neither a question nor a fully fledged statement.

Yes, some material is beyond the "between-album" timeframe - so what? If Prince feels it stylistically fits, then that's his prerogative.

It's actually amazing to think that some of his newer stuff was recorded many years ago - shows how far ahead he is of the curve (sometimes).
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Reply #11 posted 04/18/10 7:26pm

poetcorner61

Ya'll are really confusing me... Were the tracks on Lotusflower recorded recently (as in the past two years) or not? Damn the org can be really confusing and misinformed at times...! confused
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Reply #12 posted 04/18/10 10:27pm

errant

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poetcorner61 said:

Ya'll are really confusing me... Were the tracks on Lotusflower recorded recently (as in the past two years) or not? Damn the org can be really confusing and misinformed at times...! confused



probably half & half
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Reply #13 posted 04/21/10 12:00pm

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As long as he doesn't come out with a CD called "Nu Jack Neo-Power Soul" he'll be OK.
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