SPOOKYGAS said:

If you choose to believe a lie, go ahead. You've done it earlier in this thread.

prb said:

ernestsewell said:

There are flashes of greatness all over Emancipation.

Rainbow Children is musically brilliant.

Call My Name is a masterpiece on par with ANYTHING Prince has ever done. Musicology is a good record.

Lotus Flower is IMO one of the best records Prince has ever made.

chrisslope9 said:

How can this be...we all know that Prince has not made a brilliant record since 1995! Ernie could U elaborate please.

errant said:

i know

ernestsewell said:

As much as I want to disagree with you, I can not.

We all know it, some just haven't realised that they know it yet.

errant said:

wait, what is Milk & Honey?

alandail said:

The (officially) unreleased Tamar album.

Good thing my ears work 4 ME.

ernestsewell said:

I think the title track 3121 is as good as anything and in some ways even a step in new directions from tracks I liked on SOTT like Housequake or If I Was Your Girlfriend. Plus he took it to another level by staging the 3121 parties that the song narrates a fantasy version of.

I think he was MORE deeply creative and ingenious in that sense.

Keep in mind that amongst all his albums I only really liked a few tracks as gems, and that remain true to this day. I personally get as much out of the 3-4 tracks i like form an album now as I did then. I find no more genius or inspiration. There were tracks that sounded tired and uninteresting to me back then just like there are now. For example, I was not so fond of Take Me With U or Baby I'm A Star on the album Purple Rain and found them very flat and uninspired.

FunkyStrange said:

And my favourite colour is Green and so is everybody's on the planet...they just haven't realised it yet.

Do U see how silly and arrogant that is?

ufoclub said:

Interesting you bring that up. I think it was Don Batts, his engineer in the early years, that mentioned the original version of "Baby I'm A Star", and how it was brighter, and even cheerier, and was on piano. He felt it trumped the version Prince later recorded of it - the one we know now.

That story reminds me of the "Tick Tick Bang" example. The original, for me, is so superior to the Graffiti Bridge version, which reeks of too many tracks, too much production, and overall sloppiness. The original was inspired, ballsy, and honest. The redo was just lame (like half the soundtrack).

ernestsewell said:

How bout elephants and flowers? Exact same story there. Sometimes knowing when to get out of your own way is just as important as talent. Prince needs a manager ha ha ha

SPOOKYGAS said:

Nope.

ufoclub said:

As far as I remember, and tell me if I am wrong, but many people thought Prince had lost it with 'Come'. When I listen to this album now, to me it is great. Peter Paphides, a well-known UK music journalist at the time interviewed Prince (around 1994). He suggested to Prince that maybe he had lost his mojo. All Prince said was this: "Have you heard letitgo?". Paphides conceded that letitgo was one of the greatest club records of the year.

My point is this, if people thought he had lost it with 'Come' (I reckon some of the same people see 'Come' differently now), perhaps his present stuff will be open to re-evaluation in the future. The future never comes though, lol. There is only NOW.

Also, I liked the Black Album. I feel a bit guilty looking back on account of Prince's cryptic message on his symbol album--one sentence said: "Don't buy the Black album". But Bob George is awesome. It is the sort of song that, if you hear it for the first time, or play it to anyone you know, they will think it is crap. But after a few listens, its brilliance (e.g. in its strength of feeling) resonates. "Who's this? This is your conscience speaking..." Duh, duh-duh-duh, duh duh-duh, duh.

I think the same can be said for Joni Mitchell's 'Jungle Line'. On first hearing, one might think the song annoying or rubbish, or even that she had lost her mojo. But it is one of the greatest songs ever made, imho.


Andy F

FunkyStrange said:

so do u like environmental records its supposed to make U horny but it just makes me wanna go to the bathroom.

FunkyStrange said:

You know nothing, you just don´t know it yet.

andyf said:

Who cares if folks don't like the new stuff? I love most of it and could care less who doesn't.

Graycap23 said:

then care less, its not worth caring about?

Graycap23 said:

Word up! Good for you! This is what it's all about, imho.

Andy Pandy

rwn said:

I know nothing too, rwn. Like Manuel in Fawlty Towers. I even wrote a song with this title many years ago. Not a very good song, granted, but a song all the same, lol.

Andrew F

bluefish said:

It's unreleased?






oops

Well you should talk for yourself, My favourite price era is not from de 80's or 90's even if i love purple rain, SOT, and 1999.
I kinda hate the Emancipation album

I love rainbow children , musicology, 3121, and Lotus flower is probably one of his best work.so stop saying he doesn't have the magic touch anymore... that's stupid.

Frankly, in my eyes, onlt TRC (despite the awful lyrics and the Darth Vader voice) and 3121 can compare to some of his work of the 80s or the early 90s.

I'd prefer just one focused LP every four or even five years, not epic misfires like LotusFlower/MPLSound, the unlistenable NEWS or that collection of cute pop songs that was Planet Earth...but perhaps that's just me...

And yeah, Prince pretty much lost it with Come/Chaos&Disorder/Emancipation/NewPowerSoul ...

SPOOKYGAS said:

@ FunkyStrange ...yall so funny
[Edited 4/7/10 15:12pm]

No increase in pace or volume of material released. In fact, in some cases there is somewhat less because most Prince solo releases now typically contain only 9-10 tracks.

One of his complaints about WB was the output they would allow. Nothing has changed on that score though he does have ownership and creative freedom now, which was the pivitol issue.

I still can't understand why he does not release a conventional album for casual listeners every 1-3 years and independent releases online or through small indie labels more frequently, but that is his choice. The internet, to me, is the ideal way of delivering pay-per-download albums and songs direct to his loyal fans, but for some reason this is not being utilised.

Clearly, Prince fans can absorb and support a much higher rate of releases than the regular record buying market, but thus far, they have not truly been catered to. Perhaps it is numbers?

robotface said:

Times 6.