Militant said:

Good point (see bolded), and why I posted it, as I stated earlier. Just holding a mirror 2 a sliver of what was being said on the ORG at that time, and letting folks gain that perspective.

I also said that this was simply an article referencing one blog, then referencing the ORG.

When exact quotes from the ORG appear in an article that Google News picks up, it is, in fact, putting it on blast.

StevenAnthony said:

How is calling someone a d*ck not not to be taken maliciously? That's the lowest of low name to call someone. How many people would you call that to their face? I know that if I called someone that to their face, we're gonna be throwing hands soon after.

Once we write what we say here, typically it can't be taken back. I do not want anything I say here to come bite me on my ass on-line or off-line. That's the best position to take, even with "Purple Rage" or being charge the $77 which my wife and I were charge also.

@Giovanni, it's all good. I just wanted to be sure that you knew this was actually wholly originating from the Org itself.

@PurpleLove7, I would call a lot of people "dick" to their face, including Prince, had he not remedied the $77 problem. If I were in charge of the Croke Park event that Prince canceled, I'd probably call him a dick. If I were in charge of the 3121 Perfume, I'd call him a dick. It's pretty simple, don't want to be called a dick? Don't be a dick. Perhaps if you could sense humor and/or sarcasm I wouldn't even be breaking this down for you. That article, while written with a severely sarcastic tone, was my reaction to the $77 charge. It's not a malicious attempt to severely hurt Prince, it was my reaction and it was a fair one at that. And seriously? "Dick" is the worst thing you can call someone? Really?

Anyway, I've said what I need to about this topic, just wanted to make sure everyone knew who wrote this and that I had no part in taking any of your comments/etc. etc. out of context.
[Edited 3/29/10 12:15pm]

omg, i was quoted

There are more snips on this thread than at a vasectomy!

StevenAnthony said:

LoL ... (I wonder how many people you've cussed out and they didn't hand you your ass). I get your point but unless so said person did something "directly" to me or dealing with me, I wouldn't take it personally. I like to buy the music, memorabilia and go to the concerts.

We cool ...

That article and its quotes are a case of what Malcolm once noted as "chickens coming home to roost."

And I ain't referring to Prince, neither!

Dick is surely one of the least offensive insults you can use? Along with Knob, wally, twit, pratt and spanner.

XxAxX said:

polkadotbliss said:

how can that be?

It had been posted here for ages that peeps were concerned about automatic renewal, some even changed their details and STILL got charged

Mistake...maybe

incompetence on the staff involved..definately


And for the record, im was not a member of LF..just an observer

IstenSzek said:

In all of the negativity that flowed from here people dissed my post on other more well known sites that have automatic charges that occur and will not give you a refund after you have requested this.I went as far as putting stop payment requests into the bank on ESPN because they keep charging me after I have requested 3 times in 3 years for them to stop. My bank told me that I was at fault for giving them my Credit Card info because websites are notorious for charging after people have requested for the services to stop.

The Lotus site was jacked but at least they are refunding the money.ESPN,Sporting News,NFLdraftblitz,nftdraftnotebook are still doing this without refunding dime one.
[Edited 3/29/10 15:11pm]

XxAxX said:

what do you mean by "mistake"? it was right in the terms of service when people joined.

WOW...i think if their is a good of time for prince to go after the org i think it would be now and i wouldnt blame him the name calling is totally wrong if we called other members those names it would be snipped and warnings slapped on us...but cause its prince hey its fair game.

yeah the site charged people....they are getting refunds i think the org is becoming like housequake and we all know how that ended

I got quoted! Hooray!



Wait. Am I supposed to be embarrassed by this or something? Cuz I'm so not. Prince deserves this. The last 10 years, he's taken stealing from his fans to epic new levels. He should be ashamed of himself.

The Daily Swarm? Here I was thinking we'd made the New York Times or something.

I'm curious about something that y'all seem to be deliberately not talking about.


Since Lotusflow3r faded to black before Gavin contacted anyone over there, technically year 2 was abandoned without a word, before the eye of the shit storm hit, so if no one had said anything and just sat back waiting for year 2 of what they were told was a yearly membership to commence, I wonder if they would have kept the money and how long they would have kept y'all dangling waiting for something for BIG to happen?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

EXACTLY!

that's what i'm saying.

the only reason he's giving the money back is because HE GOT CAUGHT.

you think he's giving the money back because he's a nice person? FUCK NO!

some people will steal what they can get away with. if you let them.

people are getting their money back.that's good.

my point is this type of thing should not have happened in the first place.i'm smart enough not to fall for the oke-doke.

I feel your pain but think about what you are saying.

To say that "he" was stealing is going out on a limb.

I do not believe that Prince was trying to purposly bilk people. If the situation was like they said then I believe it.

My main problem was and is the fact that it was one shot deal instead of a longer lasting site.

Also let me say this . I was a founding member and was NOT charged so maybe they corrected the problem after the efforts of people HERE who were really concerned about the Org family.

A shout out to you and all others involved in getting that problem addressed!
[Edited 3/29/10 16:19pm]

RipTheJacker said:

Once again...

cream72 said:

I agree, the double standard regarding respect makes me nuts. You can't call a member a name, but, boy, you can call Prince every name in the book, insult him to no end and make false accusations based on the lynch mob mindset and it's just peachy!

RipTheJacker said:

This is such bullshit. So you know the reason, did Prince tell you? I imagine Prince had no idea anything was happening until all hell broke loose. Do you really think a measly $77 from a few hundred(?) members would be worth the hassle for him?

Serena said:

That, and the Terms of Service said that customers will be billed automatically for the 2nd year. Now, all of a sudden, everyone's so shocked that they're being billed, when they were told they were being billed on day 1!!!

Obviously, a LOT of people forgot, and they got pissed when they were charged.

I don't see how this is stealing when people were told this was gonna happen.

Paris9748430 said:

People canceled their accounts in the manner prescribed by the website. Then they were charged again anyway. Then the site disappeared.

Telling you I'm going to steal from you does not justify stealing from you.

Serena said:

membership has its privileges. maybe he should join.

Efan said:

Well, I agree it was a big screw-up, but I don't think it was intentional nor malicious on his part.

Since they weren't planning on running it another year, they probably didn't pay attention to the emails (if anyone was even checking them nowadays...). It's hardly 'stealing', especially if Prince's team didn't even run the transactions themselves.

Quickly corrected, huh? I think 3 people got their money back so far.

It's making a mountain out of a molehill for some of you but to those who were in better financial position at the beginning of the club and who are in worse condition now, 77 bucks is a lot of money.

If Prince chooses to "punish" his fans because of a few vocal ones on the 'net, shame on him again. Shame on him the first time for not handling his business on this one.

And I do not regret for a damn second anything I have said about this fiasco.

Vendetta1 said:

Just because I don't think this is a big deal, doesn't mean I'm swimming in cash.

I'm on disability, so I need every penny I have.

I also made a choice a year ago. I made the choice to spend $77 dollars for a membership to the website knowing that I'd be charged for the 2nd year.

I wasn't happy with the content of the website, and was planning on canceling my membership when the time came. I didn't have to because of this situation that's going on now.

Like healthcare in the news, I will be sooooo glad when this is over!

Paris9748430 said:

What I saying is this is a big deal to some people and no one has that right to tell them that it's not.

Whether or not we knew we would be automatically renewed is a point of contention. If I recall, there was no way to opt for automatic renewal. It was also stated that we could write to them and ask that we not be renewed and a ton of us also changed our credit card information. We were renewed anyway so yes, I am surprised and pissed off I was renewed.

Should I not be pissed off some vendor has held on to my personal info without my permission even when I changed it to something else?

See y'all at the next concert!

Stop acting like it's gon' be the last time.
Prince can slap you around as much as he wants.
Then he'll sing you a love song to make it all better.

But when them tickets go on sale...
That purple trenchcoat won't come out of storage fast enough!