Supernova said:

Ultimately it is of course all a matter of personal opinion, but what I am trying to say is that he used to be more subtle. I don't mean that the prayer in Controversy IS subtle. I think it is more subtle, because it is not the main theme of the song, spoke out quietly and it only covers a minute or so. It is a commonly known prayer, among Christians at least. It is not from one particular religion, which makes it less exclusive than the lyrics on TRC.


Like I said I didn't find the preaching during the Lovesexy tour very subtle either, so weare in agreement there. And the "screaming" in "The Cross" can indeed neither be considered "subtle", but the message, as in Controversy, is not limited to one particular religion.
Instead these songs leave more room for more fans to identify with. At the very least more room for fans considering themselves Christian or a believer in God, or Jesus Christ, but who are not JW.

I said that TRC ismore exclusive. His past rhetoric is not limited to one particular religion within Christianity, it is broader. Therefore it is more open to more people. Moreover Prince used to regularly put some purely personal elements in it, instead of pure "doctrine" and sometimes he mixed in some elements from different religions.


To me they are definitly not FORCEFULL. TRC however leaves no room for broader interpretations, no room for a fan who doesn't agree. (Ain't no room for disagree) which makes it definitly more forcefull.


I know that is your point, but 1) I said most fans, not all. And 2) I can understand them, especially since "The Cross" is such a classic. Changing the title is along the same lines as editing out the cursing.

When he played this song 4 years ago and held his speech, the crowd, including hardcore fans reacted like :

That's not good, don't you think?


I agree with all that, but it doesn't mean he has to "preach the truth" in the way he is doing it right now. My suggestion is therefore that he mixes it up with more elements like he did before and it will come across much better. When it comes across better, chances grow that the message will be listened to by more.
Estas d'acuerdo?

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[This message was edited Thu Jan 30 7:39:54 PST 2003 by Abrazo]

If there ever was a song, that truly says it all, is
the ONE SONG.




"With an all-knowing mind, made in God's image u can
create as ur Creator - God intended. With love, honor and
respect 4 every living thing in the universe. Separation
ceases, and we all become One Being singing the One Song."



I do believe in One God. Do you think a God would be so harsh to only accept a certain group into heaven, paradise, etc? I don't think so.

It is a personal walk, and God will guide each and everyone of us.

When Prince says, "look for the kingdom deep within", JW or not, that is true, look into your heart, make it right with God.

I guess now this tells you something of my belief, and I will not be labelled.

naturegirl said:

There are indeed still lyrics that can be read different ways and I actually agree with your interpretation. To me it feels always like that. I personally also don't believe God would be that harsh to exclude. The One song of course makes a lot of great statements, but they need to be backed with actions. Prince is not including people enough in my humble opinion. That's why i put the emphasis on more. He is more exclusive now than before. it is not just in the lyrics; it is in the way he runs the club, it is in the way he speaks out about whats "his".

I can read the lyrics of TRC in a different fashion; one that doesn't focus on the typical doctrines and one in which I can find lots of comfort in. So I am not 'put off' by them. However I know that lots of JW doctrines are in there, deliberately so, and that they are exclusively JW. That's fine, I personally don't have any trouble with that. I understand tho' why others would or could not do this and that's what I was trying to explain and defend here.


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[This message was edited Thu Jan 30 11:47:08 PST 2003 by Abrazo]